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2008-03-20 11:08 AM

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Subject: Ok, people, tell me about Boston

Since I don't post on COJ alot, here's a little background - some of you know my husband Barry is a surgery resident at Penn State University. At the end of his second year of residency (next summer), he is going to take two years off to work in a NIH-funded lab and publish his findings in medical journals. Reason being- a lot of competitive fellowships require research #1, and #2, I hate PA and want to get out of here asap.

Barry got wind of a research position at Harvard and is very interested in applying/interviewing for it. While obviously I know Harvard is, well, Harvard - I'm not that keen on moving further north AND having more dreary winters. Having said that, I also know Boston is a huge improvement over where we are living now....but I honestly don't really know that much about it, other than they have awesome lobsters and clam chowder.

So, BT, tell me why we should/shouldn't move to Boston for 2 yrs.



2008-03-20 11:19 AM
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I've only visited once, but I really enjoyed it.  Based on that visit, I tried to get into college there (but failed... had to go to Michigan).  I hear the winters suck, and the summers aren't much better.

I had a friend who taught at Harvard for a while, and he loved it.  His only complaints were the weather, and the lack of "good Chinese food".

Good luck!  And remember, nothing is permanent!  Even if you guys move there and you hate it, it's only for a year or so, right?   

2008-03-20 11:30 AM
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I have lived here since 1998 (when I finished residency) and I love it here.  I have lots of harvard researchers in my practice and they all seem pretty happy, if overworked like most post docs....

 

Tons of great restaurants,  50 schools of higher education, easy to get to mountains for skiing, Harvard has a good pool - Cambridge master's uses it as one of the sites, at least 3 tri clubs off the top of my head, tons of bike stores (Landry's is closest to where he would be working and is where I go and also did bike class this winter).  Plenty of running routes, THE RED SOX and on and on.

Winter sucks if you are not a skier at all but not really any worse than PA plus nearer to good skiing.

 

come visit - I have plenty of room 

2008-03-20 11:38 AM
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My family and I recently moved away from Boston. I grew up there, went out of state for college, moved back, worked for a few years, married had some kids, realized that you have to make a whole lot of money to be able to live. Everything is a gazillion times more expensive than where you are at. If you are planning on having a family, day-care is more expensive than you can imagine. Our daycare was over $2k month for 2 kids full-time. Housing is expensive, and you need to be very wealthy to afford to live in the towns with teh good public schools. Boston city public schools are terrible.

Boston has a rich, warm sporting history, and you will get sucked in by the Red Sox nation. Don't fight it or you will be extremely unhappy. You will be close to the Cape (wonderful place to go during the summer) and NH (a wonderful place to go during the winter). People are generally not really nice until you get to know them. Then they are very warm and hospitable. You will find most people avoid eye contact at all costs, lest they catch something from you. It is a very left leaning area, and the state legislature is horribly corrupt and the state police will drive you nuts with the salaries they make in MA. Their union is incredibly strong. I'm not saying they do a bad job, it's just, well, you'll see.

You will find the North End to be a destination (they call it Little Italy) worth making at least once a month if you can afford it. There are so many great places in downtown Boston to visit that you will love.

The traffic is awful and the drivers are mean and nasty. Unfortunately, the roads are so old and poorly planned that the only way to get anywhere is to cut people off.

It is a sporting friendly place and you will a gazillion cyclists on teh roads as soon as the weather warms. I cycled there for 2 years and didn't have any problems with drivers. There are lots of great places to ride.

Harvard is in the People's Republic of Cambridge. Just keep that in mind.

PM me if you have any more questions.
2008-03-20 11:41 AM
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They're a rock 'n' roll band.

2008-03-20 11:55 AM
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Well, the marathon is always on the 3rd Monday of the month to coincide with Patriots Day. The race has traditionally started at Noon but they recently moved the start time to late morning. (Depending on which corral you get into)

The race is point to point: Starts in Hopkinton and finishes on Boylston St right near the John Hancock Building. It is a pretty tough course with the last big hill just before the 35k mark as your heading into Brookline.

The race is the oldest marathon (Modern Marathon) and this years race, on April 21st, will be the 112th Running of it. 

Qualifying for this race is one of the most satisfactory experiences of many folks running life and there is no other race or experience like it. This year, the Women's Olympic Trials will be run the day before and one of my friends will be running. (Go Lightfoot!!!)

Another friend of mine, who recently was the overall winner in her Boston Qualifying Marathon, was awarded one of 12 Elite Masters Bibs and gets to line up with the rest of the super fast folks in the elite wave. (Go Corinac!!!)

There are quite a few BT Folks that are running Boston this year and it promises to be a great race. I will miss it this year due to a Family Obligation but will be there in 09, ready to rock

 



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2008-03-20 11:56 AM
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2008-03-20 11:57 AM
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Boston sucks!

The image “http://img.webring.com/r/y/yankeering/logo” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.26 World  Championships and 39 AL pennant wins!

2008-03-20 12:02 PM
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2008-03-20 12:07 PM
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22legs - 2008-03-20 12:57 PM

Boston sucks!

The image “http://img.webring.com/r/y/yankeering/logo” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.26 World Championships and 39 AL pennant wins!

 

YUCK FANKEES!!!

 

and all your wins were in the LAST CENTURY.  We have 2 world series wins in THIS century to your NONE. ;-p 

2008-03-20 12:14 PM
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I could give a rat's a$$ about baseball....yankees, sox....whateva!

What about rental properties? Are there apartments in the city? Are they insanely expensive?



2008-03-20 12:16 PM
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LOVE IT. I lived there for 5 years (in college and after) and visited a lot as a kid. It's a very manageable city to live in, lots of stuff to do and see, very intellectual environment, overall pretty liberal, despite it's very Puritanical roots and the fact that there are lots of Italians/Irish Catholics. I will say, though, that it is a pretty WHITE city, probably due in part to the large number of colleges in the area, and the fact that New England in general is pretty much that way - hate to say it, but it's true. Lots of old money (ie, the Kennedys)

It's a pretty safe city, in general - there are some bad areas, but they're not all places you'd want/need to go. As a young single woman, I felt safer there than I do here when I go into DC (which is why I live in NoVA). Great Irish pubs, great Italian food, great seafood. And I like that they haven't ruined the architecture and early colonial charm of the city by crapping it up with skyscrapers, and they haven't torn down a lot of the old buildings - my college dorms were old brownstones that were converted into dorms, so they had cool molding, and cool tiles around the fireplaces, etc. It's old, but cute and charming.

The streets are somewhat confusing to navigate, however, to get around you don't need a car - public transit is cheap, quite reliable and gets you everywhere you need to go. And since it's not a big city, it's quick to get around. You can walk from Back Bay to Cambridge if you have an afternoon to kill.

Housing, both in the city and in the burbs, is/can be expensive, but it's a city. I was in college, or renting, so I can't say much about it.

The winters don't ALWAYS suck. Fall is beautiful and summers get just as hot and humid as they do in other places - they just don't last as long. Spring can be rainy and cold one day and 80 degrees the next day. But I happen to like seasons, and I do think the city is very pretty when there is snow on the ground.

The nice thing about Boston, too, is that you don't have to go too far outside the city to get to "wilderness" and "nature". It's not as sprawling for a metropolitan area.

Oh, yeah, and it is home to the RED SOX...



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2008-03-20 12:18 PM
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Being on the coast, I would think winters are milder in Boston than PA.

Lived in suburbs just west of Boston for 7 years and loved it.  Public transportation everywhere, any kind of food you could want, generally well-educated population, Cape Cod, culture, everything we don't have in CO

2008-03-20 12:18 PM
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madkat - 2008-03-20 12:19 PM

I had a friend who taught at Harvard for a while, and he loved it.  His only complaints were the weather, and the lack of "good Chinese food".

Mmmm..China Pearl in Chinatown - dim-sum....I miss Boston

2008-03-20 12:23 PM
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GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-20 1:14 PM

I could give a rat's a$$ about baseball....yankees, sox....whateva!

What about rental properties? Are there apartments in the city? Are they insanely expensive?

 

heh heh you say that now......

dollars to donuts if you move here that changes..... 

2008-03-20 12:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Ok, people, tell me about Boston
There are people in Canada happy with their lives, and there are people in sunny california who are miserable. As a resident where the weather changes from 20oF to 95oF each year, I think you get desensitized to great weather: When winter hits, it's bad but it doesn't affect you for long. And when summer hits it is nice, but it doesn't make you happy for long.

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2008-03-20 12:28 PM
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GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-20 1:14 PM

Are there apartments in the city? Are they insanely expensive?

Yes. And yes and no. You can find better deals if you don't look "downtown", but rather along the Green Line in Boston (Brookline, Allston/Brighton) or the Red Line in Cambridge (Davis Square, Porter Square).  (Keep in mind that Cambridge is a different city and some Cambridge-ites hate it when you refer to it as "Boston" - ie, Harvard folk. The MIT folk are cool and don't care). Some are small, some are not. Thing is, apartments in Boston are just kind of created out of buildings that have been there forever. For example in Davis Square, there are tons of old houses where each floor is an apartment, and is rented out. And some of those are quite reasonable - my ex-boyfriend who was a PhD student lived in one of those with one other guy - the whole thing was like $1100 a month, and it was 2 bedrooms, a nice kitchen, a small den, a living room and a dining room. I lived in a building in Back Bay that had obviously been there for a long time - there was no standard unit layout for the building. Spaces were just sort of created. My studio apartment was rather large - some of the others were not. Mine cost as much as my ex-boyfriend's whole place.

2008-03-20 12:29 PM
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TriToy - 2008-03-20 1:23 PM
GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-20 1:14 PM

I could give a rat's a$$ about baseball....yankees, sox....whateva!

What about rental properties? Are there apartments in the city? Are they insanely expensive?

 

heh heh you say that now......

dollars to donuts if you move here that changes..... 

Yup - you pretty much HAVE to become a Sox fan. And god help you if you are a Yankees fan...

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2008-03-20 12:37 PM
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spokes - 2008-03-20 1:30 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 10:29 AM
TriToy - 2008-03-20 1:23 PM
GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-20 1:14 PM

I could give a rat's a$$ about baseball....yankees, sox....whateva!

What about rental properties? Are there apartments in the city? Are they insanely expensive?

 

heh heh you say that now......

dollars to donuts if you move here that changes.....

Yup - you pretty much HAVE to become a Sox fan. And god help you if you are a Yankees fan...

What if you don't particularly care for professional sports... do they put you in the Clockwork Orange chair and reprogram  you?  

No, it's just really hard not to.

Oh, and the beer is good. New England has some great breweries. And there are several restaurants in Boston that brew their own. Mmm...blueberry beer...



2008-03-20 12:44 PM
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My wife and I lived in a town at the end of the red line on the other side of Cambridge  from Boston...  We went there so I could do my internship for a year. 

Absolutely.

loved.

it.

My wife is a pianist so we had TONS of music to see performed... great museums. great history.  I became a member of Red Sox nation... Fenway is THE perfect place to see a ball game.  

If I could  move there, I would in a heartbeat... of course the bishop there... well, I don't know if I could work under her... but that's another story.

Boston is awesome.  

-Brian 

2008-03-20 12:54 PM
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I should also add that if you're only going to be there for 2 years - MOVE THERE. Seriously. For only two years, there is plenty of awesomeness to outweight any of the less-awesome aspects. And then you can say you lived there
2008-03-20 12:56 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 1:54 PM I should also add that if you're only going to be there for 2 years - MOVE THERE. Seriously. For only two years, there is plenty of awesomeness to outweight any of the less-awesome aspects. And then you can say you lived there

werd! 

2008-03-20 12:57 PM
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akustix - 2008-03-20 1:56 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 1:54 PM I should also add that if you're only going to be there for 2 years - MOVE THERE. Seriously. For only two years, there is plenty of awesomeness to outweight any of the less-awesome aspects. And then you can say you lived there

werd! 

Or should I say "You are wicked retahded if you don't move there"...

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