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2008-04-16 8:11 AM

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Subject: Another great Frontline last night

Far and away my favorite show on TV.  A great one last night comparing the US health care system with 5 other "wealthy" countries.  Yet another reminder that in many areas (health care included), we remain in the dark ages.  The US is definitely losing its luster as the "greatest country on earth". 

 



2008-04-16 8:21 AM
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And I thought this was going to be about Frontline stuff for pet to control fleas and such.  Which would fall under health care for pet.  Which is probably better than some people get.
2008-04-16 8:42 AM
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I'll disagree.

We have choices that we make.

health care vs. plasma tv
health care vs. cell phone
health care vs. new car

Friends of ours (and my mother - nurse for 30 yrs) in health care will consistently tell you that managed care, or other "nationalized" systems are garbage.

Yes, our system has its problems, but it's probably still the best thing out there.
2008-04-16 8:53 AM
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Being Canadian and having lived in the US for 10 years, I was able to see a clear difference between managed care and global coverage. I was lucky enough to have a good job with good health benefits. The main difference that I experienced was lower to no wait times to get surgery or see a specialist and generally more lab work done as routine. In Canada, wait time for elective surgery or to see a specialist can be years.  Of course, when it comes to medicare for those not insured, the US system is flawed - it is clearly a user pay two/three tiered system. Canada is starting to see privatized health care crop up for those who can pay so clearly there is some reform needed here too.
2008-04-16 9:05 AM
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2008-04-16 9:13 AM
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Yeah, I saw it and I agree, it was very good. I appreciated that they looked into the weaknesses of the other countries, but though there are some issues with other systems, I would happily take any of the ones they profiled over our system.

It is just wrong that the job a person has (or no longer has) will determine the health care they get or can afford. My mother and step-father are both public school teachers - professionals - and they pay hundreds of dollars each month for health care and they scrape by month to month to pay their bills. I'm sure they don't go and get some of the routine check-ups and dental visits etc. that they probably should 'cause they can't afford it. My wife and I pay $4 per month for our very good insurance through her work. Our co-pays are very low too.

Health care should be considered a human right. It was telling looking at the reactions of the experts they talked to from those other countries when the reporter asked how many people in their country (or hospital) went bankrupt from medical expenses.


2008-04-16 9:18 AM
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I'll caveat my comments with - I did not see the show - however, I was the recipient of British national health services for a major part of my life - 23 yrs in fact - it is not a nirvana for healthcare at all. Currently - Blair/Brown have sunk so much into the system - billions - that the administrators outnumber the actual Doctors and nurses - the waiting period for even minor surgery can be 12-18 months minimum and access to specialists is close to impossible. This is why - if they can afford it - people opt for PPO plans - very similar to the US method of healthcare.

The rhetoric of nationalized health being spouted by some of the current candidates is less than amusing to say the least - potentially another waste of billions of dollars for no gain...maybe we can have Michael Moore be the Health minister!

 

 

 

2008-04-16 9:50 AM
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Didn't see it, but did think it was interesting that there was a page 1 article in yesterday's Wall St. Journal about how medical jobs have replaced lost factory job and provided a major boom to all these "depressed" areas of the country.  I find this interesting b/c generally speaking (*warning : large generalization coming*) - factory jobs are supported by consumers, whereas the current medical industry is largely support by taxpayers/employers/employees.



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condorman - 2008-04-16 10:50 AM

Didn't see it, but did think it was interesting that there was a page 1 article in yesterday's Wall St. Journal about how medical jobs have replaced lost factory job and provided a major boom to all these "depressed" areas of the country.  I find this interesting b/c generally speaking (*warning : large generalization coming*) - factory jobs are supported by consumers, whereas the current medical industry is largely support by taxpayers/employers/employees.

I read an article about 2 or 3 years ago about the fact that the highest projected job growth for the foreseeable future is in health care - these costs being a drain on the economy - versus jobs that contribute to a robust economy. The gist of the article was that we are in for a bumpy ride.

2008-04-16 10:12 AM
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How would healthcare jobs be a drain on the economy?  You pay a healthcare worker who then has money to spread all over town like any other employee.  It is just another service industry, right? 
2008-04-16 10:22 AM
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bcart1991 - 2008-04-16 9:42 AM I'll disagree. We have choices that we make. health care vs. plasma tv health care vs. cell phone health care vs. new car Friends of ours (and my mother - nurse for 30 yrs) in health care will consistently tell you that managed care, or other "nationalized" systems are garbage. Yes, our system has its problems, but it's probably still the best thing out there.

Watch the show.  You can see it online at PBS.org



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