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 2008-06-18 7:44 PM in reply to: #1472689 |
Champion  5781     Northridge, California |  Subject: RE: Swim shortest distance, Is this fairSometime last year, I posted an analysis of the relative energy consumptions of the three legs in an IM. The swim wasn't even close to the other two. It isn't even a matter of time spent in each discipline...the total effort expended on each (looking at elite athletes as--presumably--well-trained in all three) is extremely imbalanced. |
| 2008-06-19 5:58 AM in reply to: #1475474 |
Giver 18427  | Subject: RE: Swim shortest distance, Is this fair amiine - 2008-06-18 6:57 PM Just posting for all those swimmers that get passed after the swim is over: you guys have an advanatge over most of us non-swimmers! the swim is the most technical part of triathlons and those of you who swam competitively when young should have already pretty good technique to be FOP at most races even with minimal swim training. This should allow you to work on your limiters (bike/run) and you could be posting solid results. There is no secret why the USAT actively recruits young swimmers to become triathletes as in general they have the potential to excel in the sport more than a cyclist o runner turned into a tri-geek. Just saying  I hear ya, Jorge, but that advantage comes at a price. Namely, 36 years or regularly hauling my @ss to the pool. |
| 2008-06-19 6:09 AM in reply to: #1475564 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Swim shortest distance, Is this fair steves_training - 2008-06-18 8:04 PM As a swimmer, nothing is quite as motivating in the week after a Tri as remembering the infinite amount of people who passed you on the bike and the run. Ever do a Triathlon feeling like you're moving backwards? Really - when I did my first sprint, I was out of the water in maybe 10th out of 300. I finished ~160th so thats 150 people passing me in an hour. Thats one person every 24 seconds. ---- I remember reading somewhere (aka this may not be correct) that the Olympic distance for the Tri was chosen in order to keep the margin of difference in the elite wave the same size between all three disciplines. It might maximize competitiveness for Pro's, but it becomes a bit skewed at the AG level. But imagine the other side of the coin. I am slow in the water, no question about it. So in IMFL I came out of the water in 1:20, well towards the back of the MOP. It took me upwards of 50 miles to pass people who I would never even SEE on a normal bike ride because I'd be so far ahead of them. I passed upwards of 7 or 800 people easily in the bike. |
| 2008-06-19 6:23 AM in reply to: #1472689 |
Extreme Veteran 536 Russiaville, IN | Subject: RE: Swim shortest distance, Is this fair As a co-race director of a new Tri this year one thing we thought about was making the swim longer than ¼ mile, but to get the most people to participate in a first time tri you need a swim distance that they think they can do. I know many first timers signing up for our event because they can handle the swim distance. The swim is probably the most feared leg of the triathlon for beginners, if we were to make the swim 1 mile or 1500M our entries would drop to half. When we get our race more establish I would like to make an equalizer race which I think would consist of a 2 mile swim, 40k bike and a 15k Run. |
| 2008-06-19 6:36 AM in reply to: #1476012 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Swim shortest distance, Is this fair Daremo - 2008-06-19 7:09 AM But imagine the other side of the coin. I am slow in the water, no question about it. So in IMFL I came out of the water in 1:20, well towards the back of the MOP. It took me upwards of 50 miles to pass people who I would never even SEE on a normal bike ride because I'd be so far ahead of them. I passed upwards of 7 or 800 people easily in the bike. That's a lot of legal drafting that you get to do, though... |
| 2008-06-19 9:47 AM in reply to: #1476018 |
Expert 784 Computerland | Subject: RE: Swim shortest distance, Is this fair rpm1418 - 2008-06-19 7:23 AM As a co-race director of a new Tri this year one thing we thought about was making the swim longer than ¼ mile, but to get the most people to participate in a first time tri you need a swim distance that they think they can do. I know many first timers signing up for our event because they can handle the swim distance. The swim is probably the most feared leg of the triathlon for beginners, if we were to make the swim 1 mile or 1500M our entries would drop to half. When we get our race more establish I would like to make an equalizer race which I think would consist of a 2 mile swim, 40k bike and a 15k Run. An equilizer race sounds so awesome! I love to swim They should make triathlon swim distances longer. I belive there should be a shorter swim in each triathlon distance for people who don't feel very comfortable in the water. For stronger swimmers, however, there should be a longer distance swim. They should have this option in each race distance. My idea: Sprint distance: 1/4 mile, 1 mile , and 2 mile swim options Olympic: 1 mile, 2 mile, and 3 mile swim options 1/2 IM: 1.2, 3 mile, and 4 mile swim options IM: 2.4, 5, and 6 mile swim options Maybe longer swims even... For whatever swim distance you choose, the other legs of the triathlon would be proportionatly longer or shorter. This might have prompting to lenghten the bike leg or run leg in proportion to the other distamces by stronger bicyclists and runners (i.e. a marathon runner wants a 10 mile run for a sprint distance triathlon). Wow! That would get confusing. maybe we should just keep things the way they are, or have more equilaizer races? Edited by amyro1234 2008-06-19 9:49 AM |
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