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2005-01-20 10:13 AM

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Subject: Resting Heart Rate?
Hi--

I've noticed that resting heart rate is a metric in the training logs, and folks here seem to refer to it fairly often. So, today, before my run, I checked to see what mine was (91 beats/min). But I have no idea what that means. Is it good, bad, indifferent? What should I be aiming for, once I have been training for longer? (If it matters, I am 28, not overweight, fairly active, but just started training regularly about 3 weeks ago).

--Jennifer


2005-01-20 10:21 AM
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Subject: RE: Resting Heart Rate?
Take your resting HR before you get out of bed in the morning--you want to be relaxed.  It is a good baseline measure for yourself but not for comparing against others.  As you gain in fitness, your RHR will generally fall some.  After some hard training days, your RHR may increase (suggesting you need a rest day or an easy day).
2005-01-20 10:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Resting Heart Rate?
Additionally, in order for your RHR baseline to be accurate you should take it the same time every day (preferrably in the AM before your alarm gets you up and before you drink anything) for at least 3 days (preferrably 5 days) and take the average.


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2005-01-20 10:31 AM
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Taking your resting HR first thing in the morning is also a good way to pick up on when you may be coming down with a virus or overtraining a little. If my morning resting HR is up 5 beats its a good day to cut back a little.

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2005-01-20 10:33 AM
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DaveH - 2005-01-20 9:31 AM

Taking your resting HR first thing in the morning is also a good way to pick up on when you may be coming down with a virus or overtraining a little. If my morning resting HR is up 5 beats its a good day to cut back a little.

DaveH


Yeah, either that or wait until that "dream" is completely out of your mind before you take your RHR.
2005-01-20 10:39 AM
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Are you suggesting I have to wake up before my alarm clock?! Yikes!!! I don't know if that is possible...


2005-01-20 10:41 AM
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jtat17 - 2005-01-20 9:39 AM

Are you suggesting I have to wake up before my alarm clock?! Yikes!!! I don't know if that is possible...


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2005-01-20 11:57 AM
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I have decided that taking a RHR in the morning isn't the best time for me. There are too many variables that come into play: baby waking up, alarm clock signaling me to get up, getting out the door for a swim, limited time, etc.

Last night I started strapping on the chest belt when I got into bed. After a few minutes to relax, I hit the button to begin logging data. I stop logging the data when I am disturbed and record the average as my RHR.

For me, evenings are far more relaxed and there are fewer things to throw off my results.
2005-01-20 12:02 PM
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B-One - 2005-01-20 10:57 AM

I have decided that taking a RHR in the morning isn't the best time for me. There are too many variables that come into play: baby waking up, alarm clock signaling me to get up, getting out the door for a swim, limited time, etc.

Last night I started strapping on the chest belt when I got into bed. After a few minutes to relax, I hit the button to begin logging data. I stop logging the data when I am disturbed and record the average as my RHR.

For me, evenings are far more relaxed and there are fewer things to throw off my results.


Good point.

Be sure, however, that the data you're using in your average doesn't include your HR when you're sleeping (in the event that you do doze off).
2005-01-20 12:07 PM
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Steve- - 2005-01-20 12:02 AM

B-One - 2005-01-20 10:57 AM

I have decided that taking a RHR in the morning isn't the best time for me. There are too many variables that come into play: baby waking up, alarm clock signaling me to get up, getting out the door for a swim, limited time, etc.

Last night I started strapping on the chest belt when I got into bed. After a few minutes to relax, I hit the button to begin logging data. I stop logging the data when I am disturbed and record the average as my RHR.

For me, evenings are far more relaxed and there are fewer things to throw off my results.


Good point.

Be sure, however, that the data you're using in your average doesn't include your HR when you're sleeping (in the event that you do doze off).


I hit the sack before my wife and may doze off a bit before I quit collecting data. Does sleeping or dozing off affect the results?
2005-01-20 12:10 PM
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B-One - 2005-01-20 11:07 AM

Steve- - 2005-01-20 12:02 AM

B-One - 2005-01-20 10:57 AM

I have decided that taking a RHR in the morning isn't the best time for me. There are too many variables that come into play: baby waking up, alarm clock signaling me to get up, getting out the door for a swim, limited time, etc.

Last night I started strapping on the chest belt when I got into bed. After a few minutes to relax, I hit the button to begin logging data. I stop logging the data when I am disturbed and record the average as my RHR.

For me, evenings are far more relaxed and there are fewer things to throw off my results.


Good point.

Be sure, however, that the data you're using in your average doesn't include your HR when you're sleeping (in the event that you do doze off).


I hit the sack before my wife and may doze off a bit before I quit collecting data. Does sleeping or dozing off affect the results?


It can (but doesn't always have to) because you would then be including your sleeping HR in that data rather than you're resting HR.

Make sense?


2005-01-20 12:10 PM
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In actuality, I take mine after I've gotten up and, uh, relieved myself.  Then I put my HR strap on, lie back down for a few minutes and take it.  I get up before everyone else in the house most days so it is usually easy to relax then.
2005-01-20 12:48 PM
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Steve,

It makes perfect sense. Thanks!

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2005-01-20 11:08 PM
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Can "sleeping HR" be used to instead of resting HR to monitor your fitness, if you are overtrained, etc? As many said, the HR right after waking up is not easy thing to measure. (It seems to me I start thinking about 'to do list' as soon as I open up my eyes and get the hear pumping....) I wore my HRM once during sleep which recorded highest/lowest/ave. I bet I was dreaming something exciting - low 42, high 76.

2005-01-21 8:25 AM
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Subject: Orthostatic Heart Rate Test

I have read about Rusko's orthostatic heart rate test as a way of detecting overtraining http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0410.htm.  It measures the resting heart rate and the jump in heart rate occurring when you rise from a lying and resting position to standing.  The jump may be more predictive of overtraining than the resting rate alone.  Quoting from the reference:   

To perform Rusko's test, you simply lie quietly for 10 minutes at the same time every day while monitoring your heart rate, which should stay constant during the 10-minute period. You then stand up and check your heart rate exactly 15 seconds after standing, and then again during the period 90-120 seconds after standing (a heart monitor works best for this, although you could also manually count your heart beats between 12 and 18 seconds after standing up and again between 90 and 120 seconds after standing - and then multiply the number of counted beats by 10 in the first case and two in the second situation to obtain the respective pulse rates). If you use a heart monitor, you should determine AVERAGE heart rate during the period 90-120 seconds after standing up; for example, if your heart rate is 92 beats per minute 90 seconds after standing and 88 beats per minute 30 seconds later, the average 120-second heart rate would be 90.

I have been measuring the orthstatic heart rate with my HRM this week and putting the numbers in my log.  A side benefit is to have an excuse to hit the snooze button a few times in the morning in the interest of science.  So far I think it is a better indicator than the resting heart rate.  Here is a page that shows a graph of the orthstatic test made with a Polar HRM.  These are not my data but mine look just the same.  http://www.africaninspace.com/home/gallery/science/18.shtml

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2005-01-21 2:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Orthostatic Heart Rate Test
My Polar 625x does this as one of its tests.  Just beeps when it is time to stand up and finished and then gives you an index to tell you if you are normal, overtrained, recovered, etc.


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