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2009-06-05 11:31 PM
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Justin Scheele - 2009-06-05 11:25 PM

I'm running a small 5K in the morning.  After reading the recent blogs I was curious, so I ate Mexican tonight.  I'm interested to know if I have any ill effects for the race.

Which begs the question... what do the Mexicans eat the night before a race?!?!

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2009-06-06 9:48 AM
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Start the prayers for the weather. 

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Scattered T-Storms
Scattered T-Storms

86°
68°

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4 Fair

 


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Scattered T-Storms

2009-06-06 10:12 AM
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you beat me to the weather... HUMMM... 9 days out... that could change and probably will change 5-6 times by next saturday.

hopefully that forecast is for North Lawrence and not South...
2009-06-07 7:06 AM
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One week and counting...this is my 1st half.  I already have the pre-race jitters?!?!  We are camp site 252 would love to meet other BTer's.
2009-06-07 9:02 AM
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atasic - 2009-06-05 11:28 AM Eating Mexican or any ethnic cuisine the night before the race is asking for trouble on the race day.


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2009-06-07 11:21 AM
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as of 11:15 today, weather.com says hi temp of 86, with a 40% chance of thunderstorms on raceday.



2009-06-07 4:42 PM
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Do you still have a extra room booked?

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2009-06-07 4:44 PM
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looks like I'm out, getting ready to cance at the rodeway inn

 

2009-06-08 12:08 AM
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So the website states that the post race food will be provided by Famous Dave's BBQ Joint. This might be OK for most, but what about the vegetarians? The thought of BBQ after a doing this race turns my stomach inside out. I really hope the organizers have thought about those who do not eat meat. This is disappointing. : (

2009-06-08 7:44 AM
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Still have the room.

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2009-06-08 8:54 AM
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Anyone attempted swimming at Clinton State Park beach or boat docks?


2009-06-08 9:32 AM
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DickDime - 2009-06-08 12:08 AM So the website states that the post race food will be provided by Famous Dave's BBQ Joint. This might be OK for most, but what about the vegetarians? The thought of BBQ after a doing this race turns my stomach inside out. I really hope the organizers have thought about those who do not eat meat. This is disappointing. : (


I love the idea of veggie-friendly post race food, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I'm brining my own NOMS for afterwards. I learned the hard way to never ever count on post race food after a long race (when I need it the most). I can't eat anything bread-y either since I'm gluten intollerant, so at most races the only thing I can eat is whatever fruit they have, and whatever candy they have. NotsoNutritious for me.

I'm bringing an antioxident smoothie and a Clif builder bar for immediately after.
And a veggie burger/tapioca english muffin (gluten free version of a hamburger bun) for a few hours after at the campsite.
I'll have a propane camp stove anyone is welcome to use if you want to "grill" or heat anything up.
 
I wonder what the number of vegetarian/vegan triathletes is these days? I know there are at least three posting in this thread alone... I'd love for race directors to be more sensitive to these kinds of things especially since nutrition is SUCH an important part of our lives, regardless of what diet we subscribe to.
 
2009-06-08 9:50 AM
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lisac957 - 2009-06-08 10:32 AM

DickDime - 2009-06-08 12:08 AM So the website states that the post race food will be provided by Famous Dave's BBQ Joint. This might be OK for most, but what about the vegetarians? The thought of BBQ after a doing this race turns my stomach inside out. I really hope the organizers have thought about those who do not eat meat. This is disappointing. : (


I love the idea of veggie-friendly post race food, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I'm brining my own NOMS for afterwards. I learned the hard way to never ever count on post race food after a long race (when I need it the most). I can't eat anything bread-y either since I'm gluten intollerant, so at most races the only thing I can eat is whatever fruit they have, and whatever candy they have. NotsoNutritious for me.

I'm bringing an antioxident smoothie and a Clif builder bar for immediately after.
And a veggie burger/tapioca english muffin (gluten free version of a hamburger bun) for a few hours after at the campsite.
I'll have a propane camp stove anyone is welcome to use if you want to "grill" or heat anything up.
 
I wonder what the number of vegetarian/vegan triathletes is these days? I know there are at least three posting in this thread alone... I'd love for race directors to be more sensitive to these kinds of things especially since nutrition is SUCH an important part of our lives, regardless of what diet we subscribe to.
 


I think we are going to have the highest percentage of vegan/veggie triathletes at our campsite Fully 1/3 of our racers don't eat meat!
2009-06-08 11:59 AM
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What Should I race on:

808 tubulars - from a friend
808 Clinchers - Rent
Zipp 440 tubular front and 808 Clincher back
2009-06-08 12:08 PM
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xcrunner2010 - 2009-06-08 12:59 PM

What Should I race on:

808 tubulars - from a friend
808 Clinchers - Rent
Zipp 440 tubular front and 808 Clincher back


Hmm...as much as I personally don't like tubulars, you should probably go with the 808 tubulars. That way, you don't have to spend the money on renting them, and you would only be carrying a spare tire, whereas if you used the 404/808, you'd have to carry a spare tube and a spare tire, for both clincher and tubular.

Personally, I'm riding on 808 clinchers, and I got the clinchers because I hate tubulars, and would not be able to change a flat on race day.

As far as wind goes, I rode on 808s last year, am a very light rider (115lbs) and was fine in the crosswinds (although I did notice them!).
2009-06-08 1:06 PM
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xcrunner2010 - 2009-06-08 11:59 AM What Should I race on:

808 tubulars - from a friend
808 Clinchers - Rent
Zipp 440 tubular front and 808 Clincher back


Can you change a tubular?  I think that makes all the difference.  If yes, then go with Tubular, if not then go with 808 Clinchers front and back. 



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xcrunner2010 - 2009-06-08 10:59 AM

What Should I race on:

808 tubulars - from a friend
808 Clinchers - Rent
Zipp 440 tubular front and 808 Clincher back


Without a doubt the 808 tubulars. They handle better, are lighter, faster and have a lower tendency to flat. Plus, you can remove the stem core and put Stans in your tire prior to racing and have an on board - on the fly - defense against flats should you get a puncture it will seal while you are riding and allow you to finish the race. You can also carry a can of Pit Stop which is an inflation can with sealant in it to get you through the race... If both those defenses fail, then you can go to changing your tire which is not as hard as many think. With practice it can be faster to change a tubular than a clincher.

I'll be running an 808 tubular on the front and a Sub 9 disc on the back. I'm glad that you posted this, because you reminded me that I need to go get some Stans and prepare my flat defense tactics.

The best thing is to not get a flat. Be sure you have good rubber and that you do not get suckered into over-inflating your tires. Zipp's website states that 120 lbs is the best tire pressure even though most tubulars will go as high as 160 even 200 lbs.

I normally run 160 but may keep my tire pressure lower just to be on the safe side. I've flattened during a race once with clinchers with a mile to go and lost about 5 minutes... I also flattened my very first time using tubulars in a race at 5430 half ironman. They were borrowed tubulars and I didn't carry a spare or utilize any of the tactics above. I was killing the ride and at 40 miles, had to DNF. I've learned a lot since then but still agonize about flatting while riding during a race.

Since changing to tubulars, it would be hard for me to return to clinchers for racing. They just feel fast and that helps me go fast. Look at the pros, most are on tubulars.

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xcrunner2010 - 2009-06-08 11:59 AM What Should I race on:

808 tubulars - from a friend
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Zipp 440 tubular front and 808 Clincher back


Ill be on 808 front, 900 disc in the back. Clinchers for me.
2009-06-08 2:03 PM
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I hear the argument a lot that a tubular is just as easy to change (just as fast) as a clincher.  I wold like to see this . .we need a change off.  .  .

Good point about the tubeless fast fill stuff though. 

Me, I ride clinchers.  Maybe a few 100 grams more, but not a big enough difference over the long haul.  To each their own I guess. 
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Don't know if ya'll saw this on the web site, but I'm soooo tempted... so little time, so little time!!!


Special Division at IMKS 70.3

It is not too late to get your costume ready!

Athletes have a chance to win awards for the best OZ Costume at IM 70.3 Kansas.

What character do you like best from the Wizard of OZ? "There is No Place Like Home" and "Follow the Yellow Brick Road" Athletes wearing a character Costume during the race will have a chance to win special awards. All athletes will finish on our yellow brick road finish line!

No matter how fast or slow - anyone can enter and all you have to do is race as the Tin Man, The Scarecrow, Dorothy, the Wicked Witch, a Flying Monkey, a Munchin or any of the other characters in the movie!

You do not have to sign up for this division - all you have to do is wear a costume!

We will ask each athlete wearing a costume to come up on stage of the awards ceremony and the Wizard of OZ himself will help decide who will win the competition. Prizes will include race entry into the 2010 IM 70.3 Kansas Triathlon and triathlon gear.

We hope to see lots of OZ characters on June 14th in Lawrence, Kansas!

2009-06-08 7:26 PM
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lisac957 - 2009-06-08 8:04 PM

Don't know if ya'll saw this on the web site, but I'm soooo tempted... so little time, so little time!!!


Special Division at IMKS 70.3

It is not too late to get your costume ready!

Athletes have a chance to win awards for the best OZ Costume at IM 70.3 Kansas.

What character do you like best from the Wizard of OZ? "There is No Place Like Home" and "Follow the Yellow Brick Road" Athletes wearing a character Costume during the race will have a chance to win special awards. All athletes will finish on our yellow brick road finish line!

No matter how fast or slow - anyone can enter and all you have to do is race as the Tin Man, The Scarecrow, Dorothy, the Wicked Witch, a Flying Monkey, a Munchin or any of the other characters in the movie!

You do not have to sign up for this division - all you have to do is wear a costume!

We will ask each athlete wearing a costume to come up on stage of the awards ceremony and the Wizard of OZ himself will help decide who will win the competition. Prizes will include race entry into the 2010 IM 70.3 Kansas Triathlon and triathlon gear.

We hope to see lots of OZ characters on June 14th in Lawrence, Kansas!



Oh man- you and Bridget should coordinate! She's getting her costume ready as we speak (she's freckleface- and camping with us!)


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Tell3131 - 2009-06-08 1:03 PM

I hear the argument a lot that a tubular is just as easy to change (just as fast) as a clincher.  I wold like to see this . .we need a change off.  .  .

Good point about the tubeless fast fill stuff though. 

Me, I ride clinchers.  Maybe a few 100 grams more, but not a big enough difference over the long haul.  To each their own I guess. 


I would do the "change off" - sounds like fun!
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DickDime - 2009-06-09 12:08 AM
Tell3131 - 2009-06-08 1:03 PM I hear the argument a lot that a tubular is just as easy to change (just as fast) as a clincher.  I wold like to see this . .we need a change off.  .  .

Good point about the tubeless fast fill stuff though. 

Me, I ride clinchers.  Maybe a few 100 grams more, but not a big enough difference over the long haul.  To each their own I guess. 
I would do the "change off" - sounds like fun!


Let's do it after the race. . . .  when we are both good and tired. 
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Tell3131 - 2009-06-08 2:03 PM

Me, I ride clinchers.  Maybe a few 100 grams more, but not a big enough difference over the long haul.  To each their own I guess. 


Wouldn't the longer races have an even bigger differences
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xcrunner2010 - 2009-06-09 8:22 AM
Tell3131 - 2009-06-08 2:03 PM

Me, I ride clinchers.  Maybe a few 100 grams more, but not a big enough difference over the long haul.  To each their own I guess. 


Wouldn't the longer races have an even bigger differences


Nope.  If we wanted light weight bikes, then I would ride my 14lb Tarmac SL2 with Hed Ardennes wheels. . .we want aero bikes. .. the few hundered grams that Tubulars weigh less than clinchers can be made up in other areas.  Plus aero trumps weight.  And MOST courses are flatter than they are hillier (sp?). 

I find it funny that we worry about weight of our wheels, when in fact the tons of water bottle/food/gear that we take with us weighs much more than the wheel difference.  Or perhaps if I lost that 5-10 extra pounds around my waist that would make a bigger difference (that reference is to me personally). 

I have never changed a tubular.  Is it easier to change?  Maybe. . I don't know.  I know that I am comfortable on clinchers, they ride fine by me and the weight difference isn't enough for me to sell all 4 sets of the clincher wheelsets and switch to tubulars. 

Pros ride tubulars in road races (Giro, Tour, etc), but they also either have teammate that will give them a wheel or a team car or a Mavic Car with wheels all over it. 

Chrissie Wellington uses clinchers. . ..
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