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Maybe Detroit Dan is just overly excited about game 7


2009-06-12 3:19 PM
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2009-06-12 3:19 PM
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Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 2:54 PM

Tough crowd in here...


You'd have ben better off posting this tip on the slowtwitch.com forum, they're much more receptive to this kind of thing over there.
2009-06-12 3:25 PM
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WelshinPhilly - 2009-06-12 1:23 PM
Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 2:54 PM

Tough crowd in here...


You'd have ben better off posting this tip on the slowtwitch.com forum, they're much more receptive to this kind of thing over there.

Where's the sarc tag when you need it.

2009-06-12 3:29 PM
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Slidell4life - 2009-06-12 4:19 PM


oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
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2009-06-12 3:31 PM
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Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.

2009-06-12 3:33 PM
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Bill - 2009-06-12 4:31 PM

Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.



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Just sayin'.

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2009-06-12 3:33 PM
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I'll attempt to un-derail this thread.

The last coach I met with gave me a related tip. She said if you suspect your form is faltering to try to swim how you KNOW is incorrect. If it feels pretty much the same, then you've been doing it wrong. I've had good experiences with experimenting like this. I think it adds to body-awareness, knowing where your hands, forearms, elbows are.

 



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2009-06-12 3:40 PM
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newleaf - 2009-06-12 3:33 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:31 PM

Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exadurate

Just sayin'.


So it is a word then. I put it in quotes because I wasn't sure.... 
2009-06-12 3:42 PM
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Bill - 2009-06-12 4:40 PM
newleaf - 2009-06-12 3:33 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:31 PM

Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exadurate

Just sayin'.


So it is a word then. I put it in quotes because I wasn't sure.... 


No, it is not a word.  Did you click on the link?  That is the funny part.


2009-06-12 3:44 PM
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newleaf - 2009-06-12 3:42 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:40 PM
newleaf - 2009-06-12 3:33 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:31 PM

Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exadurate

Just sayin'.


So it is a word then. I put it in quotes because I wasn't sure.... 


No, it is not a word.  Did you click on the link?  That is the funny part.


You're killing me.

Okay, okay.... I'll learn to use the sarc font. Sorry. Thought that was just a COJ rule.
2009-06-12 3:45 PM
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I didn't think threads this week could get funnier...until now.
Here's All Your Base...just because...

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Old school swimming is insulting.

2009-06-12 3:51 PM
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newleaf - 2009-06-12 1:42 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:40 PM
newleaf - 2009-06-12 3:33 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:31 PM

Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exadurate

Just sayin'.


So it is a word then. I put it in quotes because I wasn't sure.... 


No, it is not a word.  Did you click on the link?  That is the funny part.


No, that's the freaking hilarious part.

you're a douchebag for linking to Derek's "R" word
2009-06-12 3:52 PM
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ChrisM - 2009-06-12 4:51 PM
newleaf - 2009-06-12 1:42 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:40 PM
newleaf - 2009-06-12 3:33 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:31 PM

Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exadurate

Just sayin'.


So it is a word then. I put it in quotes because I wasn't sure.... 


No, it is not a word.  Did you click on the link?  That is the funny part.


No, that's the freaking hilarious part.

you're a douchebag for linking to Derek's "R" word


the synergy is amazing.


2009-06-12 3:54 PM
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ok, I tried it... now what?

Scratch pic....
I learned my lesson yesterday!

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Slidell4life - 2009-06-12 1:33 PM

I'll attempt to un-derail this thread.

The last coach I met with gave me a related tip. She said if you suspect your form is faltering to try to swim how you KNOW is incorrect. If it feels pretty much the same, then you've been doing it wrong. I've had good experiences with experimenting like this. I think it adds to body-awareness, knowing where your hands, forearms, elbows are.

This I've heard of, and I can see that being a side benefit of a couple laps deliberately swimming that way for a comparison. Repeated laps, especially in the exaggerated way the OP is suggesting, are begging for an impingement or other injury.

John

 

2009-06-12 4:01 PM
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stchase34 - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM ok, I tried it... now what?


bye bye thread
2009-06-12 4:02 PM
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stchase34 - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM ok, I tried it... now what?


bye bye thread


LOL! Now he's really pushing his newbie luck!!
2009-06-12 4:02 PM
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I've had enough of this thread. I'm off for a run, on which I'll be using a new run-training technique I just discovered.







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Ok, but on serious note.... my wife and her friend tried it, but they kept kicking themselves in the head!

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Much better, well done!
2009-06-12 4:20 PM
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ChrisM - 2009-06-12 3:51 PM
newleaf - 2009-06-12 1:42 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:40 PM
newleaf - 2009-06-12 3:33 PM
Bill - 2009-06-12 4:31 PM

Detroit Dan - 2009-06-12 1:54 PM
bryancd - 2009-06-12 1:29 PM
JohnnyKay - 2009-06-12 12:56 PM Sometimes there are a reason things are left behind in the "Old School".
x2. I see no benefit whatsoever by doing this and i am confused why having sore muscles is a diserable outcome? Would you run with poor form to make your legs feel more tired?


Tough crowd in here...  A sore muscle is not a desirable outcome. It is however a result of working a muscle in a way that it is not used to. If you work this technique in slowly and don't over exadurate the inside and outside strokes, you won't feel a thing. You will be using the same muscles that are used during freestyle stroke, just in a slightly different position than your normal stroke. I think the "New School" term is muscle confusion.


It's not a particularly tough crowd. But it is generally a crowd that expects there to be some demonstrable benefit from doing what you advise when you start a thread with suggestions about how to train. What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. What benefit did you gain from "exadurating" your inside and outside strokes, for example? If you're saying it will make you feel better when you swim normally, that makes about as much sense as hitting myself with a hammer so it will feel better when it stops hurting...

Don't take it personally. But if you plan to offer advice you need to make a case for your suggestion. That's a reasonable expectation and people are going to call you on it if the benefit isn't clear.



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exadurate

Just sayin'.


So it is a word then. I put it in quotes because I wasn't sure.... 


No, it is not a word.  Did you click on the link?  That is the funny part.


No, that's the freaking hilarious part.

you're a douchebag for linking to Derek's "R" word


The link made me cry. Well, someone walked into my office and saw me wiping tears from my eyes and having missed the laughter part of the deal, asked if I was okay. Awesome.

2009-06-12 10:57 PM
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Bye Bye BT.  I thought the "B" was for beginner.
I guess you can't be 50 AND a beginner here.
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