Do you stop at stop signs?
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2009-06-26 12:03 PM |
Expert 1148 Santa Fe, New Mexico | Subject: Do you stop at stop signs? Do you stop at stop signs on your bike? Just curious. Edited by jashac 2009-06-26 12:04 PM |
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2009-06-26 12:06 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Extreme Veteran 402 Bartlett, TN | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? I don't want to die. That is why I almost always stop. Only exception might be stop signs in a residential neighborhood area with no traffic around. |
2009-06-26 12:09 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Extreme Veteran 575 Concord, NH | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? In town always. If there are cars around always. If I am out in the middle of nowhere and there is nobody around I do what my brother and I refer to as the Rhode Island Role. You slow down, look both ways, and just keep rolling through. |
2009-06-26 12:09 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Pro 4827 McKinney, TX | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? When I ride in areas with traffic - yes! I generally try to ride in areas and/or times where traffic is light to non-existent. During those times, I slow down and only stop if needed. |
2009-06-26 12:11 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? i ride my bike just like i ride my car, that said, at an empty intersection i definitely roll on through. |
2009-06-26 12:11 PM in reply to: #2245541 |
Expert 748 Big Bear City, California | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? offrhodes - 2009-06-26 10:09 AM In town always. If there are cars around always. If I am out in the middle of nowhere and there is nobody around I do what my brother and I refer to as the Rhode Island Role. You slow down, look both ways, and just keep rolling through. Ditto, these seems to be the accepted group ride etiquette as well. |
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2009-06-26 12:25 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Member 115 Petaluma, CA | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? Aside from being killed, I think the biggest risk with not stopping is creating a few more pissed off motorists. Even if you have the right away, or are not impeding another motorist, people don't like it much when they see cyclists dismiss the rules that they have to follow and act like they own the road.I feel exactly that way about motorcyclists. They illegally split lanes, get to the front of the light when they don't have to and ride my while waiting to cut me off in traffic. I'm very much opposed to motorcycles solely based on the behavior of 90% of those I come across. Anyone see the thread where the lady had wished more cyclists had been hit when Miguel Tellez was hit during a race? The reason she feels that way is because more than one cyclists has pissed her off.I look at obeying all laws while cycling like putting a little bit of good will in the piggy bank. Those motorists won't be the ones who brush by me at 80MPH on my long rides. Edited by DaveyG 2009-06-26 12:25 PM |
2009-06-26 12:26 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
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2009-06-26 12:26 PM in reply to: #2245553 |
Master 4117 Toronto | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? robot - 2009-06-26 1:11 PM offrhodes - 2009-06-26 10:09 AM In town always. If there are cars around always. If I am out in the middle of nowhere and there is nobody around I do what my brother and I refer to as the Rhode Island Role. You slow down, look both ways, and just keep rolling through. Ditto, these seems to be the accepted group ride etiquette as well.Me too. annoying to clip in and out for all the 'all way stops' in my residential neighbourhood. Though, i think it's also important to be ready to stop because I can't tell what's coming with all the houses being so close to the street. |
2009-06-26 12:28 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Master 1651 Breckenridge, CO | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? I only do for my safety, or to be courteous to other drivers. Our cops don't care because almost everybody here rides including the cops. And if one were to care, I'm perfectly happy to pay my debt to society as punishment. I won't buy the theoretical argument until drivers stop rolling through stops and totally stop speeding. IMO, drivers don't like bike riders because they slow drivers down. Therefore in order to make traffic movement more efficient for everyone, stop signs should be yield signs in all cases for bike riders. I'm perfectly happy to always yield to drivers at stop signs and I do it anyway for my own safety. |
2009-06-26 12:38 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? Almost always. What's the point of blowing through them? If you are THAT concerned about the numbers on some cyclometer over life safety than you've got some priority issues. |
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2009-06-26 12:39 PM in reply to: #2245609 |
Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? If theres a car-- absolutely. Even if I can clearly get through, I stop.... only if I can clearly tell I'm all alone (country roads) will I just speed through. even if I have a green light, I'm on the bull horns, slowing down big time, until I am through the light. too many cars will try and beat you through, go right on red, etc..... Edited by cusetri 2009-06-26 12:40 PM |
2009-06-26 12:40 PM in reply to: #2245609 |
Veteran 139 Ellicott City, MD | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? breckview - 2009-06-26 1:28 PM I only do for my safety, or to be courteous to other drivers. Our cops don't care because almost everybody here rides including the cops. And if one were to care, I'm perfectly happy to pay my debt to society as punishment. I won't buy the theoretical argument until drivers stop rolling through stops and totally stop speeding. IMO, drivers don't like bike riders because they slow drivers down. Therefore in order to make traffic movement more efficient for everyone, stop signs should be yield signs in all cases for bike riders. I'm perfectly happy to always yield to drivers at stop signs and I do it anyway for my own safety. I think most stop signs should be yield signs for cars too. We have stop sign overload here in the USA. Too many. Over in England, they have Give Way signs, and only use a stop sign when they really think you have to stop. OTOH hand, I doubt it would work here. Drivers are such idiots. |
2009-06-26 12:44 PM in reply to: #2245651 |
Master 2638 | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? Yes. Bikes are vehicles and must obey the rules of the road just like cars. |
2009-06-26 12:47 PM in reply to: #2245651 |
Master 1651 Breckenridge, CO | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? GaryGnu - 2009-06-26 11:40 AM Drivers are such idiots. Since the responsibility to yield would be on bike riders, drivers wouldn't have to do anything differently than they do now. |
2009-06-26 12:51 PM in reply to: #2245644 |
Master 1651 Breckenridge, CO | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? Daremo - 2009-06-26 11:38 AM What's the point of blowing through them? At my stop signs there are never any cars there. |
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2009-06-26 12:51 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? BTW, "not stopping at stop signs" does not mean, for me, blowing thru at full speed. Even if I do not completely stop, I slow down enough that if a car does pull up at the last minute (or a cop), I can stop fully. And yes, of course, we are moving vehicles and should obey the same rules. And I am fully prepared to pay the fine municipality if I ever have the misfortune of getting a ticket (as many friends have, every summer they crack down on stop signs in my local beach town.... but the funny thing is the huge majority of people blowing stop signs are guys and gals cruising around on beach cruisers in their flip flops) |
2009-06-26 12:53 PM in reply to: #2245598 |
Expert 1123 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? juniperjen - 2009-06-26 1:26 PM robot - 2009-06-26 1:11 PM offrhodes - 2009-06-26 10:09 AM In town always. If there are cars around always. If I am out in the middle of nowhere and there is nobody around I do what my brother and I refer to as the Rhode Island Role. You slow down, look both ways, and just keep rolling through. Ditto, these seems to be the accepted group ride etiquette as well.Me too. annoying to clip in and out for all the 'all way stops' in my residential neighbourhood. Though, i think it's also important to be ready to stop because I can't tell what's coming with all the houses being so close to the street. you don't need to clip out to stop ;-) |
2009-06-26 12:53 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Champion 8766 Evergreen, Colorado | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? I yield to traffic as if I was a vehicle....but don't often come to a full and complete stop. As in, if I come up to the stop sign and another car just beat me to it on the right, I let that car go and then cross behind him. If I come up to the stop sign and no one is there, I slow down, look both ways but keep rolling. I would never just blitz through a stop sign or try to take the right of way if it wasn't mine to take. |
2009-06-26 12:54 PM in reply to: #2245716 |
Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? Bioteknik - 2009-06-26 10:53 AM juniperjen - 2009-06-26 1:26 PM robot - 2009-06-26 1:11 PM offrhodes - 2009-06-26 10:09 AM In town always. If there are cars around always. If I am out in the middle of nowhere and there is nobody around I do what my brother and I refer to as the Rhode Island Role. You slow down, look both ways, and just keep rolling through. Ditto, these seems to be the accepted group ride etiquette as well.Me too. annoying to clip in and out for all the 'all way stops' in my residential neighbourhood. Though, i think it's also important to be ready to stop because I can't tell what's coming with all the houses being so close to the street. you don't need to clip out to stop ;-) Depends on where you are and the definition of "stop." Some cops around my town have given tickets to people that stopped but did not put a foot down..... |
2009-06-26 1:14 PM in reply to: #2245723 |
Extreme Veteran 575 Concord, NH | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? ChrisM - 2009-06-26 1:54 PM Bioteknik - 2009-06-26 10:53 AM juniperjen - 2009-06-26 1:26 PM robot - 2009-06-26 1:11 PM offrhodes - 2009-06-26 10:09 AM In town always. If there are cars around always. If I am out in the middle of nowhere and there is nobody around I do what my brother and I refer to as the Rhode Island Role. You slow down, look both ways, and just keep rolling through. Ditto, these seems to be the accepted group ride etiquette as well.Me too. annoying to clip in and out for all the 'all way stops' in my residential neighbourhood. Though, i think it's also important to be ready to stop because I can't tell what's coming with all the houses being so close to the street. you don't need to clip out to stop ;-) Depends on where you are and the definition of "stop." Some cops around my town have given tickets to people that stopped but did not put a foot down..... They tickets to people doing track stands? I do track stands at every light/stop sign I can. |
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2009-06-26 1:21 PM in reply to: #2245514 |
Pro 4360 Baton Rouge area | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? I have a nice 14 mile loop with little traffic, I hit 3 stop signs. Two I completely stop at because I can't a get a clear view (and drivers sometimes do 45 even though it's a 30 zone). The other I slow and stop if there is a car. |
2009-06-26 1:27 PM in reply to: #2245799 |
Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? offrhodes - 2009-06-26 11:14 AM ChrisM - 2009-06-26 1:54 PM Bioteknik - 2009-06-26 10:53 AM juniperjen - 2009-06-26 1:26 PM robot - 2009-06-26 1:11 PM offrhodes - 2009-06-26 10:09 AM In town always. If there are cars around always. If I am out in the middle of nowhere and there is nobody around I do what my brother and I refer to as the Rhode Island Role. You slow down, look both ways, and just keep rolling through. Ditto, these seems to be the accepted group ride etiquette as well.Me too. annoying to clip in and out for all the 'all way stops' in my residential neighbourhood. Though, i think it's also important to be ready to stop because I can't tell what's coming with all the houses being so close to the street. you don't need to clip out to stop ;-) Depends on where you are and the definition of "stop." Some cops around my town have given tickets to people that stopped but did not put a foot down..... They tickets to people doing track stands? I do track stands at every light/stop sign I can. Yeah, sucks huh? They get real strict here in the summer. Even put up electronic signs saying "All Bicyclists Must Obey All Traffic Laws." But you never know. Depends on if he/she had a bad morning. Couple weeks ago there was a large group, cop was at the stop, so everyone stopped, foot down. Girl couldn't get clipped in and fell. Cop yelled out laughing "you don't have to put your foot down!" Edited by ChrisM 2009-06-26 1:28 PM |
2009-06-26 1:30 PM in reply to: #2245594 |
Champion 10154 Alabama | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? DaveyG - 2009-06-26 12:25 PM Aside from being killed, I think the biggest risk with not stopping is creating a few more pissed off motorists. Even if you have the right away, or are not impeding another motorist, people don't like it much when they see cyclists dismiss the rules that they have to follow and act like they own the road.I feel exactly that way about motorcyclists. They illegally split lanes, get to the front of the light when they don't have to and ride my while waiting to cut me off in traffic. I'm very much opposed to motorcycles solely based on the behavior of 90% of those I come across. Anyone see the thread where the lady had wished more cyclists had been hit when Miguel Tellez was hit during a race? The reason she feels that way is because more than one cyclists has pissed her off.I look at obeying all laws while cycling like putting a little bit of good will in the piggy bank. Those motorists won't be the ones who brush by me at 80MPH on my long rides.
Just curious. I see you are from CA.....I always thought that was legal in CA? Is it not?
Sorry to the highjack.
~Mike |
2009-06-26 1:34 PM in reply to: #2245594 |
Extreme Veteran 417 Davidson | Subject: RE: Do you stop at stop signs? DaveyG - 2009-06-26 1:25 PM Aside from being killed, I think the biggest risk with not stopping is creating a few more pissed off motorists. Even if you have the right away, or are not impeding another motorist, people don't like it much when they see cyclists dismiss the rules that they have to follow and act like they own the road.I feel exactly that way about motorcyclists. They illegally split lanes, get to the front of the light when they don't have to and ride my while waiting to cut me off in traffic. I'm very much opposed to motorcycles solely based on the behavior of 90% of those I come across. Anyone see the thread where the lady had wished more cyclists had been hit when Miguel Tellez was hit during a race? The reason she feels that way is because more than one cyclists has pissed her off.I look at obeying all laws while cycling like putting a little bit of good will in the piggy bank. Those motorists won't be the ones who brush by me at 80MPH on my long rides. I have mixed emotions about this. First, I agree there are a minority of cyclists (at least around here they are a minority) that act a little too arrogant with respect to their rights of the road. They ride two or three abreast chit chatting creating a rolling road block. Not good PR. I also can't stand motorcyclists that cruise down the road between lanes or on the shoulder then pull back into traffic expecting to be treated like any other vehicle after establishing their position at the front of the line. However, when I am on my bike, I wonder what motorists would prefer I do. When I come up on a line of cars waiting at a light and there is room on the right, I cruise on up to the front staying over by the white line. As soon as the light changes and we begin moving, they all pass me anyway just like they passed me before arriving at the light. A couple of times, I moved left into the line of traffic at the end only to have someone pull up behind me and start tailgating me for taking up the road. So, I think most motorists would rather have you just stay to the right and let them go by. Alternatively, you could pull over into the line of traffic and wait for the light and then go back to the right over to the white line as it starts moving, but I don't think it is a good idea to go back and forth like that. The drivers don't know what to expect. Greg |
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