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2009-08-21 12:31 PM

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Subject: Invisible Dog fences
Anyone have input on how well these things work? Which brand/style? We're looking to get a new dog and do not want to fence in our yard. A wireless set-up is preferable due to the rocky nature of the soil where it will be blocking access. Our area is crawling with deer and we wish to keep the area open so they can move through as needed. The neighbors on both sides have fences, so we are looking to block front and back yard access. Are these fences effective for training an older dog (our first choice will be a shelter dog) or do you need to start training them as pups?


2009-08-21 12:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences

I have used the Invisible Fence brand and have had great results with older dogs as well as younger ones.  They are somewhat expensive but I have never had an issue with the fence in over 10 years (except for replacing a lost collar which is also $$$).  As with all things dog related, proper training is the key to the fence being safe and effective.

2009-08-21 1:13 PM
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We've had an invisible fence at the last 3 houses we owned. They work well and our current dog does not even go close to the line. They have worked so well with him that while we are on vacation, we can put white flags (you use them for training the dog) around areas where you don't want him to go and it works - even without the collar. Our last lab was smart enough to wear down the batteries in the collar and then cross the line - by 10' so she could sit under a tree she likedSmile. We have never used the wireless system, but from what I know you can't specify the areas that are off limits, only the distance from the base unit. I have heard of and seen older dogs be introduced to the system and it worked.

The only negative is price. An installed system can run $1,000 or more. I put the system in our last house and saved about $800 by renting a machine that would bury the cable.
2009-08-21 1:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
I think it might also depend on the type of dog you get...some of the hound breeds or stronger breeds might risk the zap to go after one of your deer herd or follow his nose. A friend of ours has an admittedly headstrong and not terribly well-trained Lab who regularly busts through his electric fence to go after rabbits. I'm sure with training it would work out fine.
2009-08-21 1:25 PM
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Just got one a few months ago and I love it.  My dog was a rescue and is about 3 years old.  When walking him, he goes crazy over squirrels and chipmunks, so I was concerned with how effective it would be.  We have had a few slip ups, but he has done great otherwise.  We used a smaller company called Dog Guard and thought the service and such was top notch.  Check for coupons or neighbor referrals for discounts before you buy.

2009-08-21 1:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
There is a big yellow lab in my parents' neighborhood that has learned it will only shock him for a few seconds.  So, he gets a running start and runs through it.  Then spends the day roaming the neighborhood.  At the end of the day, he sits at the edge of the yard until he's hungry enough to run back through it.  Not sure why they still use it, unless they just want him to work for it. 



2009-08-21 1:50 PM
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olliedawg - 2009-08-21 2:42 PM There is a big yellow lab in my parents' neighborhood that has learned it will only shock him for a few seconds.  So, he gets a running start and runs through it.  Then spends the day roaming the neighborhood.  At the end of the day, he sits at the edge of the yard until he's hungry enough to run back through it.  Not sure why they still use it, unless they just want him to work for it. 

Yeah, that is definitely where the training comes in.  I have owned retrievers and pointing breed that like to run/chase after stuff.  On top of that I lived on a golf course so there was constant traffic and golf balls flying passed my yard.

After a few months of training I was able to let the dog out even without the collar on for a while (I misplaced it and had a very difficult time justifying spending $300 on a new one).

2009-08-21 1:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
They work great! 

I have the portable one that is wireless and does not require you to bury the wire in your yard.  It work on both of my dogs.  One is a large Shepherd / Rotty mix and the other is a less intelligent but adorable golden/beagle mix. 

2009-08-21 1:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
LowcountryTRI - 2009-08-21 2:50 PM

olliedawg - 2009-08-21 2:42 PM There is a big yellow lab in my parents' neighborhood that has learned it will only shock him for a few seconds.  So, he gets a running start and runs through it.  Then spends the day roaming the neighborhood.  At the end of the day, he sits at the edge of the yard until he's hungry enough to run back through it.  Not sure why they still use it, unless they just want him to work for it. 

Yeah, that is definitely where the training comes in.  I have owned retrievers and pointing breed that like to run/chase after stuff.  On top of that I lived on a golf course so there was constant traffic and golf balls flying passed my yard.

After a few months of training I was able to let the dog out even without the collar on for a while (I misplaced it and had a very difficult time justifying spending $300 on a new one).



Exactly... the dog is fine but the owners need trained so they understand the process of showing the dog the boundaries.
2009-08-21 2:03 PM
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Works like a charm. Been using one for about three years. The only time she has gotten out is when the battery in the collar went dead.... so apparantly she does test the fence.

 

BTW...It can also fun watch your drunk buddy spew beer on him self trying to rip the collar off as he walks through the fence on a dare.....just sayin....

2009-08-21 2:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
We had an Invisible Fence for years.  My parents split the cost with our backyard neighbor and we put the wire around both houses so the dogs could play together in a bigger area.  (we both got new dogs at the same time)  We had a springer who wouldn't go near the fence - we were also able to bring flags with us and set up an area for her wherever we went - it worked great!  The neighbors had a beagle which they hardly trained.  She would go through it after squirrels once in a while.  Then she was too scared to come back and would sit outside waiting for someone to come get him.



2009-08-21 2:16 PM
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FALLS-RUNNER - 2009-08-21 3:03 PM

 

BTW...It can also fun watch your drunk buddy spew beer on him self trying to rip the collar off as he walks through the fence on a dare.....just sayin....

That's hilarious!  I never shocked myself around the neck but did shock my hand.  The day the guy came to install it he was showing me how the collar beeps before it shocks you.  So I was carrying the collar in my hand with the prongs against my fingers as we walked out of my backyard... yeah I got shocked.  Didn't hurt it just surprises you.

 

2009-08-21 2:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
We have the wireless one from PetSafe and it is great.  You can adjust the perimeter and the strength of the zap.  It's also portable, so you can take it camping or on vacation (if the dog is going too, of course).  Mallery, a yellow lab, took about 2 hours to figure out that when it beeped, she needed to turn around and run for the porch.  No problems since then.  I don't think I've put a battery in it this year; probably should check that.
2009-08-21 3:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences

But if your dog is invisible, how can you tell he's outside the fence?

2009-08-21 3:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
Remember, it keeps your dog IN...it doesn't keep other dogs or kids OUT.  Personally, I would NEVER use one...way too much liability if some neighborhood kid comes trolling in to pet the cute dog and gets hurt or bit or whatnot.  Or some loose dog decides to come in and they get in a fight.

If neighbors on two sides of me already had fences I would just put a solid fence in...they've already done half the work/cost for you.
2009-08-21 4:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
LowcountryTRI - 2009-08-21 2:16 PM

FALLS-RUNNER - 2009-08-21 3:03 PM

 

BTW...It can also fun watch your drunk buddy spew beer on him self trying to rip the collar off as he walks through the fence on a dare.....just sayin....

That's hilarious!  I never shocked myself around the neck but did shock my hand.  The day the guy came to install it he was showing me how the collar beeps before it shocks you.  So I was carrying the collar in my hand with the prongs against my fingers as we walked out of my backyard... yeah I got shocked.  Didn't hurt it just surprises you.

 



I know of some friends who did this at a party one year.  Got hammered and then whoever lost the game they were playing had to "run" out of the yard on hands and knees. 

Sometimes I just don't understand boys...

BTW - Sorry for the hijack  and thanks for this thread - I'm interested in people's comments too.  I'm looking at moving in the next year out of town and I'd like to have this instead of a fence.  (I have a Dobie and a Lab-x.)


2009-08-21 5:12 PM
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zed707 - 2009-08-21 3:09 PM

But if your dog is invisible, how can you tell he's outside the fence?

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 you could just look for the collar hovering 18 inches above the ground.


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2009-08-22 12:47 AM
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We have the Invisible Fence brand, and love it.  Our 100 lb boxer knows the boundaries, and won't go near the edge.  We also have deer, boar, and other critters that roam our land, and this has been a good solution.  If I remember correctly, we had to put it all around the house - it needed to be a closed circle.   He won't go near the boundary even when the collar is off.
2009-08-22 9:03 AM
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Hum, I am pretty convinced that my dog is lame enough that he would just go through it.  He gets into the red zone pretty easily when he sees another dog (yeah, working on that) and it would not take much to get him to go through it.  My other dog is extremely scared of well, everything, and managed to break out of the backyard fence one day cause there were some chainsaws going next door.  She just ran to the front door.  Don't really think I need a fence for her:-)

I would worry about other dogs coming into my yard.  I guess you need to take that into account, what type of dogs are out roaming around without owners and how your dog reacts to other dogs. 
2009-08-22 11:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
Need to clarify... My dog is outside contained with the electronic fence only if we're at home and not overnight.  I also worry about other animals coming around and don't want her getting attacked by rogue wildlife.  She gets to be out with her collar any time we're at home, but otherwise goes in the garage when we can't watch her or when we're gone. 
2009-08-22 12:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
I guess I should have been more specific too. We don't intend to put the dog in the yard unnattended 24 hours a day. We're looking at hound breeds and mixes and I know that would not work 100 percent of the time. I need a training aid to teach boundaries. I would like to be able to let the dog out in the backyard to pee w/o having to stand there with a leash. I know she will need constant supervision for the first few years when she goes out. We were able to train our last dog to stay within our yard and could leave her outside by herself for as long as she wanted to stay out. We moved to this house when she was 4-5 years old, but I'm pretty sure that would not have been possible when she was in her terrible 2s and 3s without the use of electricity! Thanks for the input everyone.


2009-08-22 6:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
As a person who has been chased by a dog who had a supposed invisible fence, my vote is that they do not work.
2009-08-24 9:37 AM
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2009-08-24 9:47 AM
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Subject: RE: Invisible Dog fences
He might go through it 5 times a year and we are right there every time to take his collar off and walk him back through, while we shock ourselves in the process of holding the collar in the other hand.


And one of those 5 times a year your dog is going to get hit by a car.  Hope you can live with that.
2009-08-24 1:43 PM
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Some friends got one and they had a side effect they didn't like.  The dog was affraid to go outside and started using the bathroom in the house.  That lasted about a month after they got it.  They turned the intensity down and she figured out she could just run through it and get the shock over with and be free.  They cranked up the intensity and she stopped that really quick.  They like it.

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