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 2009-10-26 7:45 AM |
Veteran  294   Papillion, NE |  Subject: Treadmill vs. OutdoorsWhat is everyone's thoughts on the treadmill vs. outdoor running, as far as distance, mileage, etc. If you want to do a 5 mile run outside, do you need to do more on the treadmill? or is it the same? I have talked to some people locally and some think it is the same and the work is the same. I don't believe the work is the same, as on the treadmill, all you have to do is lift your feet and not push off, like outdoor running. Anyway, thought I would get more experienced advice. Thanks. |
| 2009-10-26 7:53 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
| Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors Any research I have read says the treadmill is easier. However, I actually have a harder time on the treadmill. I think 90% of that is mental though. But the treadmill is suppose to assist your foot movement. Plus you can't take into account all the movements your muscles go through running outside due to uneven ground, etc. 5 miles is 5 miles, but you'll in theory have an easier 5 miles on the treadmill. It takes a lot to get me to stay inside and run on the treadmill. I'd rather be drenched to te bone from the rain, out in the snow, or in the cold then get on that treadmill. I'll do short interval sessions on really bad days or when it is icy out. |
| 2009-10-26 8:14 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Extreme Veteran 453 Long Island, NY | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors In theory I would think that the treadmill would be easier. However it seems like pure torture to me. I get stir crazy on it before I even hit 2 miles. |
| 2009-10-26 8:25 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Expert 1128 Boston | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I read somewhere to put the incline on the treadmill at least on 1 to simulate uneven ground, although on the treadmill it is steady. I find intervals easier on the treadmill but I too love running outside in any weather. I had a treadmill in my livingroom for 2 years and never once got on it. I finally dismantled it and took it to the garage. |
| 2009-10-26 8:26 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Elite 3315 Miami | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors i used to do alot of treadmill running at first when it was winter last year. all i have to say is i better have some hot girls in front of me to even consider being on the treadmill..... |
| 2009-10-26 8:36 AM in reply to: #2479275 |
Extreme Veteran 453 Long Island, NY | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors Seren - 2009-10-26 8:25 AMI read somewhere to put the incline on the treadmill at least on 1 to simulate uneven ground, although on the treadmill it is steady. I find intervals easier on the treadmill but I too love running outside in any weather. I had a treadmill in my livingroom for 2 years and never once got on it. I finally dismantled it and took it to the garage. I have read this too about putting it on a slight incline. I try to reserve treadmill for intervals like you said. |
| 2009-10-26 8:47 AM in reply to: #2479251 |
Veteran 294 Papillion, NE | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors elbi999 - 2009-10-26 8:14 AM In theory I would think that the treadmill would be easier. However it seems like pure torture to me. I get stir crazy on it before I even hit 2 miles. I am with you on this. I dread getting on it as it is very BORING. But with winter nearing and the possibility of having to do some treadmill running this winter, I just wondered what the correlation was, in everyone's opinion. |
| 2009-10-26 8:54 AM in reply to: #2479297 |
Master 1404 Saratoga Springs, Utah | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors Here is a good article on Treadmill vs Outdoors: http://bodytransform.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/treadmill-vs-outdoor-running/ |
| 2009-10-26 9:02 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Veteran 210 | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I have my TV and stereo set up right in front of my treadmill so that usually takes care of my boredom. You can try that. I find it much easier to do a 1-2+ hour run if I'm watching the Packer's game or somthing. |
| 2009-10-26 9:07 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Expert 1121 Chicago | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I find the treadmill harder and almost always wind up with more foot and lower leg soreness. I think it's more than mental (for me at least); when I've used my HR monitor on the treadmill, I'm at the same effort level (HR wise) going about 1/2 mph slower on the treadmill. If the roads are clear and its above about 10 degress, I'll almost always opt to run outside. That being said, wehn I do use the tradmill, I set it to .5%-1.0%, as some other have said. I would focus on effort more than speed, and pay close attention to what your body is telling you while you're on the mill. |
| 2009-10-26 9:09 AM in reply to: #2479329 |
Veteran 294 Papillion, NE | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors gerald12 - 2009-10-26 8:54 AM Here is a good article on Treadmill vs Outdoors: http://bodytransform.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/treadmill-vs-outdoor-running/ Great link, thanks. |
| 2009-10-26 9:22 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Runner | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors Here's some links discussing running on a treadmill: Ultimately, I don't think it makes much difference one way or the other. The simple fact that you are running is the important part. |
| 2009-11-08 7:27 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Veteran 155 Pittsburgh, PA | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I do a majority of my running on a treadmill, usually in some far away hotel. On the wonderful chance that I can get outside to run I do, but my times are usually much slower. Treadmills are easier to run on in my opinion - typically because I don't have the wind blowing at me in all directions. The theory of 1%-2% incline never seemed to effect me, so I run at 0.5% - 1.5% depends oon how many times I hit the button that day. |
| 2009-11-08 7:33 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Regular 853 | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I too would rather run outside in any season than use the TM. However, I do have a TM in my living room and I will use it if I have to. I think it is harder running on the TM. I actually have to set the speed lower than I usually run outside, and yes I keep my incline set at 1.5-2.0. I have a hard time breathing on the TM. One winter I used it a lot because of so many ice storms, and I would play around with speed/incline and found that I was running faster in the spring. I had my best 5k and 8k times ever that spring. So it is a good speed work tool. jami |
| 2009-11-09 10:29 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Member 181 | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors Like most of you here, I prefer running outside. However, I find myself running on the treadmill the majority of the time. The reason.............better impact absorption. Treadmill for the winner, hands down. |
| 2009-11-09 10:45 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
Extreme Veteran 592 Long Island | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I find the TM much easier to run on at 1% incline. I do most of my running on the TM cause I think it's easier on the joints and when I get out on the street, it's much harder. |
| 2009-11-09 11:54 AM in reply to: #2479193 |
| Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I also set it to 1% and find that I run slower at the same HR/RPE. It's probably mostly mental. Also, it just further reinforces my desire to run outside, since I run faster/easier out there. When I do run on the treadmill, I remind myself that I'm still getting stronger and that the mental toughness is important, too. It's small consolation, but at least something to feel better about. As far as joints/muscles, by body seems to be indifferent between outside and treadmill (meaning, my legs/joints are no more or less sore on one than the other). |
| 2009-11-09 2:39 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors DJS - 2009-10-26 7:45 AM What is everyone's thoughts on the treadmill vs. outdoor running, as far as distance, mileage, etc. If you want to do a 5 mile run outside, do you need to do more on the treadmill? or is it the same? I have talked to some people locally and some think it is the same and the work is the same. I don't believe the work is the same, as on the treadmill, all you have to do is lift your feet and not push off, like outdoor running. Anyway, thought I would get more experienced advice. Thanks. I don't add distance if I run on a treadmill vs. running outdoors. Honestly, running on a treadmill is HARDER for me. Outside I can change my speed based on how I'm feeling... so I might run a 9 minute mile or a 9:30 or 10:00 minute mile depending on the terrain and my breathing. For my last 10k (in a Oly), I ran a 8:50 mm. I can promise you, that I could not run that fast on treadmill. I think it's the steady pace that does it to me. I need to speed up/slow down based on how I'm feeling and I can't seem to get that on the treadmill (unless I want to guess on the speed the whole time). |
| 2009-11-09 3:02 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Veteran 295 Ft Campbell, Kentucky | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I do about a 50/50 to try and prevent injuries. The treadmill absorbs impact whereas the ground does not. The biggest thing I "like" about a treadmill is I can easily see what speed I am running at and can also track heart rate quicker. The drawback is a treadmill can get boring real quick. You have to really work on your mental aspect to run on one for a long time. I ran on a treadmill exclusively last winter for about 3 months, went out and ran a half marathon afterwards. I could tell a difference in the feel of the strides, but my cardio part was just fine. BTW, was the first half marathon I ran in 4 years. Only ran up to 8 miles on the treadmill during the winter. I did win my age group, and did manage to outrun one dog. Did I mention that there are no dogs chasing you on a treadmill? |
| 2009-11-09 3:33 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Elite 3913 far northern CA | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors Treadmills are a great tool! I use one all the time to help me work on a consistent pace. But just like the bike trainer, it is a tool. Nothing compares to running outside. |
| 2009-11-09 3:35 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Master 1927 Guilford, CT | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors I only use the treadmill if I have no other choice. It beats the hell out of my legs for some reason. I'm faster outside and feel better outside. I'll do some intervals about once a week on it but that's about it. |
| 2009-11-09 3:42 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Veteran 210 | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors DJS - 2009-10-26 8:45 AM What is everyone's thoughts on the treadmill vs. outdoor running, as far as distance, mileage, etc. If you want to do a 5 mile run outside, do you need to do more on the treadmill? or is it the same? I have talked to some people locally and some think it is the same and the work is the same. I don't believe the work is the same, as on the treadmill, all you have to do is lift your feet and not push off, like outdoor running. Anyway, thought I would get more experienced advice. Thanks. I tend to disagree with this. The belt is moving beneath you, so if you don't push off to move forward, you will certainly move backwards. If people didn't have to push off on treadmills, they could run double the distance. Imagine someone standing at a red light, running in place. That is lifting your feet and not pushing off. If you did that on the TM, you'd be on the floor. IMO, if you compare an outdoor, completely flat surface with no headwind to a TM, they're equal. Unless you're a sprinter, you're not generating enough wind resistance to make a difference in that regard. All that being said, I cannot duplicate my 5k PR on a treadmill, and I got it on a hilly course to boot. So that must mean something. But as someone else said earlier, the most important thing is that you're running period. |
| 2009-11-09 3:59 PM in reply to: #2479193 |
Extreme Veteran 417 Davidson | Subject: RE: Treadmill vs. Outdoors DJS - 2009-10-26 8:45 AM What is everyone's thoughts on the treadmill vs. outdoor running, as far as distance, mileage, etc. If you want to do a 5 mile run outside, do you need to do more on the treadmill? or is it the same? I have talked to some people locally and some think it is the same and the work is the same. I don't believe the work is the same, as on the treadmill, all you have to do is lift your feet and not push off, like outdoor running. Anyway, thought I would get more experienced advice. Thanks. I agree with your assessment, a treadmill run is kinda like just rotating your feet below your body to keep up with the mat. As others have stated, all you really have to do is set the incline to about 1% and it does a pretty good job of simulating the load of propelling your body through space. Some running workouts I actually prefer to do on the treadmill because I can do a more structured workout that way and watch whatever triathlon, running, or cycling events the Tivo has recorded while I do it. When I walk out of my house to run, I am on hills immediately and it is hard to get in clean strides or keep my HR in any particular zone. That being said, I prefer the outside to the treadmill, but the tready does have its place in training and I have been able to do a number of runs that weather would have prevented. Greg |
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