Tebow pro-life Superbowl ad

I'll bite - so if you are not pro-life, you are in favor of killing children?

If I was doing pro-choice PR, then the best spin would be: "FOTF = bad, therefore FOTF ad = bad". 

I haven't seen the ad, but I'm looking forward to it.  Maybe they'll run it during the no spin no straw man segment of the telecast.  Maybe while the Who sings "We won't get fooled again."

fair enough, but how many people are really PRO abortion?  noting that pro choice does not equal pro abortion.

I guess when it comes down to it, I just don't feel I have the right to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body.  I would implore her to consider all other options available and I am fundamentally opposed to abortions.

I figure it is the combination of my libertarian viewpoints and low-self esteem.

Really?  I challenge you to defend that.

Being pro-choice seems to mean that you support a mother killing her unborn child through direct abortion.  Perhaps it means that you do not support the act of abortion for yourself, but you do support the act of abortion for others.

Being pro life means that you recognize that in addition to the fact that a mother's body is involved in pregnancy, there is also another body involved, that of her child.

If being pro life means that one is anti-women's rights, then you need to make the case that the killing of a child by his/her mother through direct abortion is in fact a good.  One aspect in trying to make your case ought to include an exploration of what exactly is happening in a direct abortion.

From there we could compare and contrast the rights of a mother vs the rights of her child.

I don't know. I changed my understanding about this during a late night drive on Rt. 91 in Connecticut in an old Nissan Altima.  Suddenly the light bulb went on.  Why should BT be any different.

Pro-choice spans a range of actions.

First is access to contraceptives ( pregnancy prevention ).

Second would be things like the "morning-after" pill, which prevent implantation.

Third would be abortion ( which covers a range of time, typically broken in the 3 'trimesters' ).

To speak of all of the above as being "pro killing babies", is quite a leap of the imagination to me.

Is a third-trimester fetus a 'baby'?  I think so.  Certainly viable.

Is a second-trimester?  Arguable, as advances in medicine increase viability of pre-mature babies.

Is first-trimester? 

Is first week?  First day?  First hour post-conception?

I know where you stand Don, as you draw the line prior to even contraceptive use.

But to cast everyone who calls themselves "pro-choice" as "pro killing babies" smacks of inflammatory rhetoric and does nothing to engage in actual conversation or rational debate.