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2010-05-05 9:10 AM
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also keep in mind any time you read the "nutritional information" on a places website that it is "generalized."

You might get another full serving of fries/rice/whatever just because the 15 year old behind the counter doesn't care what one serving is. Take caution.

It's even worse in sit down places where the cook has much more control over how much (butter/salt/whathaveyou) goes into cooking your food.


2010-05-05 9:14 AM
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Taco Bell has a lowfat menu that is pretty good. it is also on the P90X menu if you must eat out.
2010-05-05 9:16 AM
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2010-05-05 9:40 AM
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Subway 12" roasted chicken sans bun with tomato, onion, jalapeno's, extra lettuce and spinach.

Qdoba/Moe's: Naked Chicken taco salad, no corn salsa or dressing.

Taco Bell: Taco salad, no beans, no shell, no chip strips

KFC:  Grilled chicken breast sandwich thing.  Can't remember the name but tried it once and it was good.

Grocery -- Pretty much anything I want as long as I stay on the outside avoiding the center.
2010-05-05 9:54 AM
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At Chipotle, my meal is (almost always) the carnitas burrito bowl, no rice, extra fajita veggies, fresh tomato salsa, and corn salsa.  Around 550 calories.  If I'm starving and feel like I need the extra OOMPH! I'll get the tortilla wrap - but it's 290 calories by itself.

Oh, and that's not butter they are adding - it's lard.  Or at least that's what we added to the rice when I worked at Taco Bell 18 years ago. 
2010-05-05 10:09 AM
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Leegoocrap - 2010-05-05 10:10 AM also keep in mind any time you read the "nutritional information" on a places website that it is "generalized."

You might get another full serving of fries/rice/whatever just because the 15 year old behind the counter doesn't care what one serving is. Take caution.

It's even worse in sit down places where the cook has much more control over how much (butter/salt/whathaveyou) goes into cooking your food.


Very true, I think the legal allowance for error in the info is +/- 20% so 500 cal could actually be 400 or 600...and yeah, I'd guess the actual values skew towards the + 20% (and thats on a specific portion, and doesn't count if the guy gives you more/less).  You do have to take it all with a grain of salt.  But in terms of comparing one to another, I think its still useful for that.


2010-05-05 10:19 AM
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I had no idea about chick-fil-a was considered somewhat healthy. Unfortunately they're not in Chicago yet.

I'm not surprised about the debate about Chipotle being good for you vs. not good for you. I err on the side of it being better than fried foods.

I hadn't really thought of running by the grocery store. The Dominics by school doesn't seem to have many healthy options besides a salad bar for quicker food.

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2010-05-05 10:23 AM
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stuy119 - 2010-05-05 7:54 AM At Chipotle, my meal is (almost always) the carnitas burrito bowl, no rice, extra fajita veggies, fresh tomato salsa, and corn salsa.  Around 550 calories.  If I'm starving and feel like I need the extra OOMPH! I'll get the tortilla wrap - but it's 290 calories by itself.

Oh, and that's not butter they are adding - it's lard.  Or at least that's what we added to the rice when I worked at Taco Bell 18 years ago. 


If it was lard it wouldn't be vegetarian.  I don't know what it is they are adding but I doubt it is lard or they would be screwed labeling it vegetarian.  Can't speak for Taco Bell
2010-05-05 10:23 AM
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lisac957 - 2010-05-05 8:44 AM
strostertag - 2010-05-05 7:23 AM One note with Chipotle, have you ever seen them make their rice?  They dump the rice in a big bowl, put in cilantro and then HEAP the butter in.  It's delicious, but don't kid yourself that it's "healthier."

This is a little enlightening:

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator



I'd trust the actual restaurant's web site over a random "fan" site: http://www.chipotle.com/ChipotleNutrition.pdf

Also according to the ingredient page on their web site, they state for their rice ingredients: "We steam white rice every hour until it's light and fluffy, then toss it with freshly chopped cilantro, a dash of citrus juice, and a little salt. Vegetarian."

So I'm not sure where this massive amount of butter you speak of is coming from...? In addition, their nutriton page states their rice contains 130 calories and 3 grams of fat. Not unhealthy if you ask me.
 


You're posting what I want to hear. I try to ignore the "Chipotle's bad for you" word b/c it's soo darn delicious!

On that note, to the OP, it probably makes a difference if you're having Chipotle for lunch vs. for a recovery meal. (A chicken burrito after a long run is confirmation for me that there is a god.
2010-05-05 10:25 AM
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crazyquick23 - 2010-05-05 10:19 AM I had no idea about chick-fil-a was considered somewhat healthy. Unfortunately they're not in Chicago yet.

I'm not surprised about the debate about Chipotle being good for you vs. not good for you. I err on the side of it being better than fried foods.

I hadn't really thought of running by the grocery store. The Dominics by school doesn't seem to have many healthy options besides a salad bar for quicker food.


Chick-Fil-A hits Aurora in August.  Conveniently, that is a 30 mile bike ride (each way), which should more than make up for the normal 500 or so calories I would consume + an additional 500.  Makes me happy.

And at the grocery, you can almost always get a rotisserie chicken for less than $7.  That is at least 2 meals worth of meat right there. 
2010-05-05 10:28 AM
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crazyquick23 - 2010-05-05 10:19 AM I had no idea about chick-fil-a was considered somewhat healthy. Unfortunately they're not in Chicago yet.

I'm not surprised about the debate about Chipotle being good for you vs. not good for you. I err on the side of it being better than fried foods.

I hadn't really thought of running by the grocery store. The Dominics by school doesn't seem to have many healthy options besides a salad bar for quicker food.


Where do you go to school? I'm a Chicago-native & had several favorite spots throughout the city. (Sounds like you're near Depaul?)


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2010-05-05 10:34 AM
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Chipotle is not good for you. Lets get that out of the way right now. However, you can make it not as bad, and its better than other options.  If you get a burrito I would guess you are over 25g of fat.

If you want to make chipotle not as bad for you, ditch the tortilla (delicious, I know, but terrible for you), and don't get sour creme, guacamole, and cheese.

This being said, I get chipotle (usually no tortilla though as this has the advantage of being less messy) and I get cheese on it every time, sometimes guac as well.  Also, it is May 5 (cinco de mayo!) so I suggest everyone ditch PM workouts and eat mexican food and drink pacifico/any modelo/margaritas!
2010-05-05 10:34 AM
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Tokyo Joe's -- brown rice & extra veggies.

Good Times -- organic beef burgers.
2010-05-05 10:38 AM
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privateer - 2010-05-05 10:34 AM Chipotle is not good for you. Lets get that out of the way right now. However, you can make it not as bad, and its better than other options.  If you get a burrito I would guess you are over 25g of fat.

If you want to make chipotle not as bad for you, ditch the tortilla (delicious, I know, but terrible for you), and don't get sour creme, guacamole, and cheese.

This being said, I get chipotle (usually no tortilla though as this has the advantage of being less messy) and I get cheese on it every time, sometimes guac as well.  Also, it is May 5 (cinco de mayo!) so I suggest everyone ditch PM workouts and eat mexican food and drink pacifico/any modelo/margaritas!


How can you state flatly it's not good for you? The ingredients are nutritious and they use high quality ingredients. None of the ingredients are fried. I think there is a difference between high calorie and bad for you.
2010-05-05 10:39 AM
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Porfirio - 2010-05-05 10:23 AM
lisac957 - 2010-05-05 8:44 AM
strostertag - 2010-05-05 7:23 AM One note with Chipotle, have you ever seen them make their rice?  They dump the rice in a big bowl, put in cilantro and then HEAP the butter in.  It's delicious, but don't kid yourself that it's "healthier."

This is a little enlightening:

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator



I'd trust the actual restaurant's web site over a random "fan" site: http://www.chipotle.com/ChipotleNutrition.pdf

Also according to the ingredient page on their web site, they state for their rice ingredients: "We steam white rice every hour until it's light and fluffy, then toss it with freshly chopped cilantro, a dash of citrus juice, and a little salt. Vegetarian."

So I'm not sure where this massive amount of butter you speak of is coming from...? In addition, their nutriton page states their rice contains 130 calories and 3 grams of fat. Not unhealthy if you ask me.
 


You're posting what I want to hear. I try to ignore the "Chipotle's bad for you" word b/c it's soo darn delicious!

On that note, to the OP, it probably makes a difference if you're having Chipotle for lunch vs. for a recovery meal. (A chicken burrito after a long run is confirmation for me that there is a god.


Yup, it CAN be unhealthy like any other restaurant. But if you make good choices it can be healthy and delicious and fast. My standard bowl (rice, beans, veggies, salsa and sour cream) is under 500 calories, yuuum!

 
2010-05-05 10:41 AM
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privateer - 2010-05-05 10:34 AM Chipotle is not good for you. Lets get that out of the way right now.


Have you looked at the actual nutrition information, or are you just guessing?
http://www.chipotle.com/ChipotleNutrition.pdf

 


2010-05-05 10:41 AM
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Scout7 - 2010-05-05 6:15 AM Define "healthier". I like pizza. Just don't eat the whole pie.


Well I failed at that one two nights ago... never thought I'd be able to eat a large pie, but apparently I was hungrier than I thought.


Chick-fil-a is awesome!  When I get their chicken sandwich I tell them no butter on the bread... although I love it with the butter, if figure it's one more healthier step.
2010-05-05 10:47 AM
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stuy119 - 2010-05-05 9:25 AM
crazyquick23 - 2010-05-05 10:19 AM I had no idea about chick-fil-a was considered somewhat healthy. Unfortunately they're not in Chicago yet.

I'm not surprised about the debate about Chipotle being good for you vs. not good for you. I err on the side of it being better than fried foods.

I hadn't really thought of running by the grocery store. The Dominics by school doesn't seem to have many healthy options besides a salad bar for quicker food.


Chick-Fil-A hits Aurora in August.  Conveniently, that is a 30 mile bike ride (each way), which should more than make up for the normal 500 or so calories I would consume + an additional 500.  Makes me happy.

And at the grocery, you can almost always get a rotisserie chicken for less than $7.  That is at least 2 meals worth of meat right there. 


If you're talking about Aurora, Colorado, there's already a number of Chick-Fil-a's in that area. 
2010-05-05 11:00 AM
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I'm eating Chipotle right now and I KNOW it's not healthy but it sure is tasty! 955 calories and 39 grams of fat. I'll eat half now and half later.

When I'm trying to be healthier I usually eat Subway. I think anyone can eat fast food and make it not so bad if they use some common sense. It also doesn't hurt to research the calories before you eat it.
2010-05-05 11:09 AM
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lisac957 - 2010-05-05 10:41 AM
privateer - 2010-05-05 10:34 AM Chipotle is not good for you. Lets get that out of the way right now.


Have you looked at the actual nutrition information, or are you just guessing?
http://www.chipotle.com/ChipotleNutrition.pdf

 


As this is now the second time someone has taken a potshot at me on a "friendly" board, I will now respond.  Chipotle's flagship and original product is their burrito.  A burrito consists of 1 tortilla, rice, beans, meat, salsa, cheese, lettuce. Yes there are varieties. I didn't make this the unhealthiest or healthiest. I made this with what I consider "average".  Based on what I consider something basic that almost anyone would like you get the following:

Where multiple options (salsa, meat, beans etc) existed I averaged the dietary information. Based on my imaginary, delicious buritto, you get 869 calories, 29 grams of fat, and 2130 mg of sodium.  The recommended daily intakes are 2000 calories, 65 grams of fat, and 2300 mg of sodium.  This means in one burrito you are eating 43% of your caloric intake, 45% of your fat, and a whopping 93% of your sodium.

You can make healthier choices at Chipotle, you can exercise, etc. I'm just saying these numbers do not strike me as healthy.  You can make healthier choices at McDonald's, but that doesn't mean McDonald's is healthy.
2010-05-05 11:13 AM
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ANY fast food or other restaurant will likely be a compromise in "healthy" choices, but it's the consumers responsibility to make the choices for themselves.

That said, any place can get you better or worse meals...but it's based on your choice. 


2010-05-05 11:28 AM
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Somewhat of an aside, but has anyone seen "Supersize Me?"  You will never eat fast food again, I promise you.
2010-05-05 11:31 AM
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mmgoldenb - 2010-05-05 11:28 AM Somewhat of an aside, but has anyone seen "Supersize Me?"  You will never eat fast food again, I promise you.


Saw it, great movie.  I still eat fast food, though.

I've also worked in a bunch of commercial kitchens and seen some pretty vile stuff, but I still eat in restaurants.
2010-05-05 11:32 AM
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chandy14ski - 2010-05-05 8:02 AM

I have never even heard of the fast food places you are talking about.  Well, OK, Subway.   

I second the grocery store, only without the snarky undertone.  I dont know if you wanted to sound that way, but that is how I read it.  The grocery store has every option you could want.  Nothing is faster than actual fresh fruits and vegies.  The deli will have fresh meats too, and some even have prepared fish.   

Nope.  No snark intended.  Sorry about that.

2010-05-05 11:34 AM
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You should also see Food Inc.  It shows how food is "manufactured" versus grown.  Chipotle is featured in the movie has a great example of how chickens/cows should be raised.
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