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2005-07-29 4:25 PM


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Subject: Supplements?
I know that many people that I ran with in high school usually take a multi-vitamin to help them a little but I was wondering if that would be good to take or not. What kinds of supplements would help? Or would it be more hurtful than helpful?


2005-07-29 4:32 PM
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This is a hotly debated area. This is what I take in the way of supplements/vitamins:

One whole food multi vitamin
Vitamin C
Vitamin B
Glucosamine/Chondroitin

I am probably going overboard with the Vitamin C and Viamin B. But, I am alright with pissing out th extra as long as I get enough through my diet and supplements.

I do know I haven't gotten a cold this summer yet...

Mike
2005-07-29 4:42 PM
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I take Centrum Silver multi-vitamins because:

1. I'm on Coumadin blood anti-coagulant and Centrum Silver has less Vitamin K (which counteracts the effects of Coumadin) than regular Centrum.
2. I'm over 50 and belong to AARP.
3. My doctor told me to.

Mark
2005-07-29 4:45 PM
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Who says this is hotly debated?

By the way, the only supplement I always hear used as an example of the "bad supplement" is Centrum.  Those solid little pellets don't dissolve!!  Ask your doc how much his kickback is!

2005-07-29 5:37 PM
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I'm 26 and I take centrum silver too (actually, the generic ripoff brand, same stuff) because it has less Iron which is good.

I also take whey protein after a good weight training session (3-4 days a week) and during a long training ride or a race I'll use accelerade scooped into my water bottles.

2005-07-29 7:00 PM
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Same here. Just a Centrum performance (that claim aobut them not dissolving is bs put them in water for a few minutes and they sure as heck dissolve). The whey protein and accelerade for long rides.


2005-07-29 7:22 PM
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Only a multi vitamin and glucosomine.  Of course, that assumes you are getting the proper nutrition from regular food. 

2005-07-30 9:54 AM
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Optygen.

2005-07-30 10:05 AM
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multivitamin and mineral

Calcium

Being female a little extra iron and calcium are a good thing.

Count on good eating for the rest.

2005-07-30 10:40 AM
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Cooper Multi Vitamin
Glucosamine/Chondroitin
Fish Oil/Flax Seed


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2005-07-30 10:57 AM
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daily multivit

whey shakes post workout

DHMO, even though its use is hotly debated and some want it banned: www.dhmo.org



2005-07-30 11:59 AM
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The American Medical Association recommends a multivitamin for every adult.

I take a multi, B, C, Calcium, and glucosamine

2005-07-30 12:02 PM
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I'm with Rollin Thunder...a whole food based multi-vitamin, but I also take Cod liver Oil and High Vitamin Butter Oil

2005-07-30 12:15 PM
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Even though I do not hold a degree in nutrition, I am pretty knowledgable about supplements as I have researched alot of them over the years as I was heavily into weightlifting. I have tried em all. I believe you should take a multi-vitamin, a believe me they are not all the same. Buy a quality one as they break down differently in the body and some are expelled without even breaking down completely. Also depending on your training program, I recommend a pure mirconized creatine. Not one with tons of sugar. I also use whey protein which is the most digestable protein to supplement my daily intake. Glucosamine and Chondritin are very useful as they are useful for your joints. Too many supplements and your liver will be working overtime, not good. I knew guys on too many supps and they had abnormal liver enzymes. Bottom line is the supplement industry claims many great things, it's a multi-million $ industry and they want your cash. Do some research and be smart, a great diet is the key along with a good multi-vit is a good baseline to start off with.
2005-07-30 2:36 PM
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Along with B-12 (sublingual, nasty tasting fake cherry, get it at GNC) I take C and Iron. I am very careful to get a lot of iron. I have been chronically anemic since the two births in two years and it really slows me down. Normal hemoglobin is between 14 and 17 (don't ask me between 14 and 17 what. I just know the numbers). I was 8 the last time they checked.
2005-07-30 2:38 PM
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nliedel - 2005-07-30 2:36 PM
Normal hemoglobin is between 14 and 17 (don't ask me between 14 and 17 what. I just know the numbers). I was 8 the last time they checked.


I know this one! This refers to the amount of red blood cells (which carry hemoglobin) in a standardized drop of blood.


2005-07-30 2:39 PM
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I take a multi and extra Vit-C.

I also eat/drink quite a bit of whey protein. It's inexpensive, high quality, and helps ensure that any weight I lose is fat & water ... not muscle.
2005-07-30 2:42 PM
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Did you know that Coumadin was developed as a rat poison? Kind of an interesting fact. Not to say it is not good for what it is intended for, but I can not read one without thinking of the other.
2005-07-30 2:53 PM
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Oh, and as far as supplements go, my two cents is that you should be having a good multi and Omega 3 with DHA and EPA, as it is what is directly used by the body for making synapses in your nervous system. Flax is good, but you can not eat enough of it due to our bodies inefficient conversion methods. The thing with Omegas is that they need to be molecularly distilled due to the levels of mercury in today's fish. (Nordic naturals and innate choice are two that come to mind).

Heres a link talking about the importance and validating it with peer reviewed papers.
http://www.innatechoice.com/pdf/wellness.pdf

2005-07-30 3:49 PM
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I take a multivitamin along with Mg and Phosphate. Is that good? I get leg cramps at night and have heard that Mg and Phosphate help prevent them and so far it has proven to be true.

Anyway, that's what I take.
2005-07-30 4:21 PM
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David14 - 2005-07-30 3:38 PM

nliedel - 2005-07-30 2:36 PM
Normal hemoglobin is between 14 and 17 (don't ask me between 14 and 17 what. I just know the numbers). I was 8 the last time they checked.


I know this one! This refers to the amount of red blood cells (which carry hemoglobin) in a standardized drop of blood.


I think I may hug you! Thanks for the explaination! I have never been able to figure it out. All I know is my doctor just shakes her head and asks me how the heck I get out of bed in the morming. Apparently I should be more tired. I always wonder how much more pep I would have if I could get the numbers up but as it is I take 300% of the RDA and it's still low.

What about CLA? I am seriously considering taking it. They had a blurb about it in my most recent Runner's World. I have been thinking about it for a few months tho.


2005-07-30 4:22 PM
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nj newbie! - 2005-07-30 4:49 PM

I take a multivitamin along with Mg and Phosphate. Is that good? I get leg cramps at night and have heard that Mg and Phosphate help prevent them and so far it has proven to be true.

Anyway, that's what I take.


Banana's help that too. Potassium!
2005-07-30 8:57 PM
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yah, potassium,...that's what I meant
2005-07-31 7:27 AM
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Binney59 - 2005-07-30 3:42 PM

Did you know that Coumadin was developed as a rat poison? Kind of an interesting fact. Not to say it is not good for what it is intended for, but I can not read one without thinking of the other.


Yep, the rats would eat the Coumadin (generic name Warfarin) and would bleed to death internally. There's a lot of myths and misinformation out there regarding Coumadin/Warfarin.
I take it to prevent blood clots from forming on my mechanical aortic valve which could potentially cause a stroke or heart attack if they broke loose (and definitely interfere with my training...).
I get a blood test every 6-8 weeks to make sure I am in range. One of the keys to keeping your Coumadin levels in theraputic range is consistency of both diet and activity levels. In particular, I have to watch my intake of foods high in Vitamin K, which counter-acts the effect of the Coumadin on clotting rates.
Coumadin is metabolized by the liver, which is why I have to be a bit careful taking other supplements in addition to the Centrum Silver prescribed by my cardiologist.
The biggest risk doing triathlons while being on Coumadin is from bleeding in the brain from a closed head injury, which is why I ALWAYS wear my helmet when riding.
Mark

2005-07-31 8:04 AM
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Coumadin/Warfarin. I take it to prevent blood clots from forming on my mechanical aortic valve which could potentially cause a stroke or heart attack if they broke loose (and definitely interfere with my training...). I get a blood test every 6-8 weeks to make sure I am in range. One of the keys to keeping your Coumadin levels in theraputic range is consistency of both diet and activity levels. In particular, I have to watch my intake of foods high in Vitamin K, which counter-acts the effect of the Coumadin on clotting rates. Coumadin is metabolized by the liver, which is why I have to be a bit careful taking other supplements in addition to the Centrum Silver prescribed by my cardiologist. The biggest risk doing triathlons while being on Coumadin is from bleeding in the brain from a closed head injury, which is why I ALWAYS wear my helmet when riding. Mark

I've been taking it as well for over a year due to a near-fatal pulmonary embolism (blood clot in my lung) and after months of testing, they found I have a rare clotting disorder, so it means I'll be popping the rat poison for the rest of my life. I have my labs checked monthly and it really does make a difference in your diet, activity, and alcohol intake is another big one.

And it's not the closed head injury-type hemmorhage I'm worried about, it's the simple, day-to-day small things like cuts, scrapes, shaving nicks that bleed forever! Hate it!

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