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2011-07-03 10:10 AM

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Marino Vanhoenacker at 7:45:58.. Amazing!
Also Mary Beth Ellis with the fastest IM debut with an 8:43 *edit* numbers were different further up in the results for her.
 
crazy day today..


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2011-07-03 11:14 AM
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I just say that on facebook and that is crazy fast.

 

2011-07-03 11:19 AM
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In case people were wondering his splits

 

Swim - 46:49

Bike - 4:15.24

Run - 2:39.24

 

When you really think about it, every one of those splits is about as fast as anyone has ever done them in an ironman. Absolutely incredible.

2011-07-03 11:51 AM
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Wow! That's incredible. Congratulations to both of them! I'm going to look up the splits right now...
2011-07-03 11:52 AM
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I was going to say...is that also a world record for an IM run split?
2011-07-03 11:57 AM
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Wow those are amazing times!


2011-07-03 12:07 PM
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Shop Cat - 2011-07-03 10:52 AM I was going to say...is that also a world record for an IM run split?

Luc Van Lierde has run 2:36 at Roth. There my be something faster though, not sure.

2011-07-03 12:21 PM
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Certainly an amazing accomplishment.

Even moreso if they would measure that course with the same level of precision the rest of the world uses.   

 

2011-07-03 12:44 PM
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Dave Luscan - 2011-07-03 11:21 AM

Certainly an amazing accomplishment.

Even moreso if they would measure that course with the same level of precision the rest of the world uses.   

 

Yes that course is definitely questionable. As it is with some other European races.

2011-07-03 2:34 PM
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Was it downhill the whole way? 

Does make you question the course a little bit but he was way out in front of the rest of the field and their times seemed relatively normal to me.

Either way, very good times indeed.  I'd love to have just one of those split times. 

2011-07-03 3:03 PM
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Dave Luscan - 2011-07-03 12:21 PM

Certainly an amazing accomplishment.

Even moreso if they would measure that course with the same level of precision the rest of the world uses.   

 

 

Can you site a source for your innuendo?  I find it hard to believe that M-dot would allow the course to be short....not when you have ~2,000 athletes out there with bike computers and Garmins.  By the time the race was over, if the course was short, it would be plastered all over the sports media.

 



2011-07-03 3:15 PM
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Rogillio - 2011-07-03 2:03 PM
Dave Luscan - 2011-07-03 12:21 PM

Certainly an amazing accomplishment.

Even moreso if they would measure that course with the same level of precision the rest of the world uses.   

 

 

Can you site a source for your innuendo?  I find it hard to believe that M-dot would allow the course to be short....not when you have ~2,000 athletes out there with bike computers and Garmins.  By the time the race was over, if the course was short, it would be plastered all over the sports media.

 

Alot of the ones saying that are the athletes with bike computers and Garmins.

2011-07-03 3:44 PM
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Rogillio - 2011-07-03 2:03 PM

Dave Luscan - 2011-07-03 12:21 PM

Certainly an amazing accomplishment.

Even moreso if they would measure that course with the same level of precision the rest of the world uses.   

 

 

Can you site a source for your innuendo?  I find it hard to believe that M-dot would allow the course to be short....not when you have ~2,000 athletes out there with bike computers and Garmins.  By the time the race was over, if the course was short, it would be plastered all over the sports media.

 



Yep, it's similar to Roth, which does acknowledge it's short, it's not innuendo, everyone acknowledges it, even the pro's. Jonathan Carron is on ST today suggesting it's about 15min short. They say the bike is anywhere from 2K-2miles short at Austria and the run about 1K. And the swim has a rockin' current in that canal apparently. There's really no reason to demarcate a WR IM time as all the courses are so different anyway, it's kind of meaningless.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=34158...

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2011-07-03 4:03 PM
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bryancd - 2011-07-03 2:44 PM
Rogillio - 2011-07-03 2:03 PM
Dave Luscan - 2011-07-03 12:21 PM

Certainly an amazing accomplishment.

Even moreso if they would measure that course with the same level of precision the rest of the world uses.   

 

 

Can you site a source for your innuendo?  I find it hard to believe that M-dot would allow the course to be short....not when you have ~2,000 athletes out there with bike computers and Garmins.  By the time the race was over, if the course was short, it would be plastered all over the sports media.

 

Yep, it's similar to Roth, which does acknowledge it's short, it's not innuendo, everyone acknowledges it, even the pro's. Jonathan Carron is on ST today suggesting it's about 15min short. They say the bike is anywhere from 2K-2miles short at Austria and the run about 1K. And the swim has a rockin' current in that canal apparently. There's really no reason to demarcate a WR IM time as all the courses are so different anyway, it's kind of meaningless. http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3415877;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

I thought this was interesting also: http://iron.map-blogs.com/ironman-austria/

3.8K short on the bike, .5K short on the run. Still that time is very fast and an amazing performance.

2011-07-03 4:11 PM
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I'm with bryancd.. times are interesting but can truly only be course record s and not world records as there are too many variables between different races.. a true test has to have more constants than the different race courses can provide, which is also another ingredient that keeps all the races so different and exciting.. just an opinion..
2011-07-03 4:14 PM
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2011-07-03 4:19 PM
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Current on the swim can sure push swim times to that split but the rest are short courses.  And he wasn't "way out front of everyone else"---Weiss wasn't that far back and he was also sub-8...now he's having a great year BUT just not that fast....it goes to have COURSE records not world records....
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2011-07-03 6:03 PM
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Holy smokes, I can't believe this.  I just read the tread on ST and it sure sounds like the course was way short.  M-dot does a huge disservice to thier brand and to the athletes.  It's such a simple thing to measure distance accutately and it really points to some devious agenda.  I'm very disappointed in WTC.

And now I'm beginning to question some of the courses I've done where my bike computer differs by like 10%.  I have just always assumed my computer was off....from now on, I will question the course first and not assume my computer is off.

 

 

2011-07-03 6:10 PM
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Fred Doucette - 2011-07-03 4:14 PM
bryancd - 2011-07-03 4:44 PM PM

Certainly an amazing accomplishment.

Even moreso if they would measure that course with the same level of precision the rest of the world uses.   

 

 

Can you site a source for your innuendo?  I find it hard to believe that M-dot would allow the course to be short....not when you have ~2,000 athletes out there with bike computers and Garmins.  By the time the race was over, if the course was short, it would be plastered all over the sports media.

 

 Yep, it's similar to Roth, which does acknowledge it's short, it's not innuendo, everyone acknowledges it, even the pro's. Jonathan Carron is on ST today suggesting it's about 15min short. They say the bike is anywhere from 2K-2miles short at Austria and the run about 1K. And the swim has a rockin' current in that canal apparently. There's really no reason to demarcate a WR IM time as all the courses are so different anyway, it's kind of meaningless.

The question I have is why are so many of the Euro courses short and none of the North American M-dot IM courses are short??

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Blame it on the Metric system.



2011-07-03 7:55 PM
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You know what. I don't think Mary Beth or Marino are going to feel bad. Its not like there is a World Record Bonus they have to give back. Without a doubt they won, earned their prize money and Kona points.

Of course, I can talk some better smack against my British cousin (whose IM PR is at Austria) now
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