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work for one of title sponsors and you get a spot   I should probably take advantage of that one of these years and become a runner.  I could probably build up to 10 miles during the summer... hmmmm
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jaredfore - 2011-09-14 9:30 PM work for one of title sponsors and you get a spot   I should probably take advantage of that one of these years and become a runner.  I could probably build up to 10 miles during the summer... hmmmm


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2011-09-16 10:54 AM
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Okay, another question.  How much time should I expect to spend after I cross the line?  I will be right in the middle of the pack, so it should be busy (whatever you experience Steve doesn't count here, sorry).  I am thinking getting through the finish, picking up bag, navigating crowds, etc, to exit finish area .  I know this depends on what I do, but some races are different.  If it's a cluster at the finish, please let me know.

Still excited! I had an awesome run last night - these temps make me feel like a speedster.
2011-09-16 12:18 PM
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BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-16 10:54 AMOkay, another question.  How much time should I expect to spend after I cross the line?  I will be right in the middle of the pack, so it should be busy (whatever you experience Steve doesn't count here, sorry).  I am thinking getting through the finish, picking up bag, navigating crowds, etc, to exit finish area .  I know this depends on what I do, but some races are different.  If it's a cluster at the finish, please let me know.

Still excited! I had an awesome run last night - these temps make me feel like a speedster.
Well you need to spend time hanging out with Kelly and I. So build that in.


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mndiver - 2011-09-16 12:18 PM
BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-16 10:54 AMOkay, another question.  How much time should I expect to spend after I cross the line?  I will be right in the middle of the pack, so it should be busy (whatever you experience Steve doesn't count here, sorry).  I am thinking getting through the finish, picking up bag, navigating crowds, etc, to exit finish area .  I know this depends on what I do, but some races are different.  If it's a cluster at the finish, please let me know.

Still excited! I had an awesome run last night - these temps make me feel like a speedster.
Well you need to spend time hanging out with Kelly and I. So build that in.


Thanks for not answering my question.
2011-09-16 4:06 PM
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BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-16 10:54 AMOkay, another question.  How much time should I expect to spend after I cross the line?  I will be right in the middle of the pack, so it should be busy (whatever you experience Steve doesn't count here, sorry).  I am thinking getting through the finish, picking up bag, navigating crowds, etc, to exit finish area .  I know this depends on what I do, but some races are different.  If it's a cluster at the finish, please let me know.

Still excited! I had an awesome run last night - these temps make me feel like a speedster.
Well you need to spend time hanging out with Kelly and I. So build that in.


Thanks for not answering my question.

I'll take a stab...

I've done it twice and both times the finish area has been busy but not a cluster.   I'd say it took us about 15-20 minutes to move through the area, grab some food, and get our gear bags.  But we weren't in a hurry.  

If you don't have a ride in St. Paul, then another 15-20 minutes to load up on the buses and go back to Mpls. 

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DB - 2011-09-16 4:06 PM

I'll take a stab...

I've done it twice and both times the finish area has been busy but not a cluster.   I'd say it took us about 15-20 minutes to move through the area, grab some food, and get our gear bags.  But we weren't in a hurry.  

If you don't have a ride in St. Paul, then another 15-20 minutes to load up on the buses and go back to Mpls. 



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2011-09-22 11:00 AM
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How does the 10 mile route get onto Franklin from West River Parkway?  I see three options:




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2011-09-22 11:35 AM
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BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-22 11:00 AM

How does the 10 mile route get onto Franklin from West River Parkway?  I see three options:


Nice map!

It takes the green route (or at least is has in the past).

Mile 3 is just across the bridge, and that 2nd mile is kinda nasty: uphill to Franklin, a bit of a short steeper hill to get on Franklin, and then rounding over the bridge (not fun if it's windy). But then you hit mile 3 and have nice, shady rolling hills on RR. And then the nasty little hills by St. Thomas... fun...


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BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-22 11:00 AM How does the 10 mile route get onto Franklin from West River Parkway?  I see three options:
Nice map! It takes the green route (or at least is has in the past). Mile 3 is just across the bridge, and that 2nd mile is kinda nasty: uphill to Franklin, a bit of a short steeper hill to get on Franklin, and then rounding over the bridge (not fun if it's windy). But then you hit mile 3 and have nice, shady rolling hills on RR. And then the nasty little hills by St. Thomas... fun...


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2011-09-25 8:17 PM
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Anyone planning on finishing the race then driving or getting a ride back to the Dome?
2011-09-25 8:34 PM
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Kelly and I have always parked right off the finish line and then taken a bus back to the dome. Plan on doing it again this year, it's just so easy and convenient to do. Would love to have the same weather next weekend we had this weekend.
2011-09-26 6:32 PM
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I have a sore throat!  Please tell me it's just allergies or something (and really mean it). 

On the upside (related?) I have put in a record number of miles this month.
2011-09-26 6:56 PM
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BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-26 6:32 PM I have a sore throat!  Please tell me it's just allergies or something (and really mean it). 

On the upside (related?) I have put in a record number of miles this month.

 

drink tons of water.  its better to have ALLERGIES early in the week and get it over with.  :P



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BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-26 6:32 PM I have a sore throat!  Please tell me it's just allergies or something (and really mean it). 

On the upside (related?) I have put in a record number of miles this month.

 

drink tons of water.  its better to have ALLERGIES early in the week and get it over with.  :P



Poop! I'm with Pete - drink a lot of water. Flush those "allergies" out.
2011-09-26 8:35 PM
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BikerGrrrl - 2011-09-26 6:32 PM I have a sore throat!  Please tell me it's just allergies or something (and really mean it). 

On the upside (related?) I have put in a record number of miles this month.

Sleep - get 9 hours a night for the next 3 nights.  Sleep cures all.  Listen to momma.

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+1 to sleep. I'll also suggest Emergen-C
2011-09-29 7:41 PM
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Hey, I've got a pacing question for all you real runners out there:

I just did my first half (Dick Beardsley Detroit Lakes) in 2:17, 3 weeks ago.  It is a tough course and very hot that day.  Since then I feel that my running has only gotten better.  I've been able to maintain a 9:30 or better pace on all my longer runs and today I did 3 miles at 8:17 and felt great.  What pacing strategy would you suggest I follow on Sunday?  My original goal was 10 min miles, then I dropped it to 9:30.  Should I go out at 9:30 and go faster around mile 6 or 7 if I feel good, or should I try and go out at 9:15, but then feel like I'm risking complete failure later because I went out too fast?

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Climbinggonzo - 2011-09-29 7:41 PM

Getting dangerously close!

Hey, I've got a pacing question for all you real runners out there:

I just did my first half (Dick Beardsley Detroit Lakes) in 2:17, 3 weeks ago.  It is a tough course and very hot that day.  Since then I feel that my running has only gotten better.  I've been able to maintain a 9:30 or better pace on all my longer runs and today I did 3 miles at 8:17 and felt great.  What pacing strategy would you suggest I follow on Sunday?  My original goal was 10 min miles, then I dropped it to 9:30.  Should I go out at 9:30 and go faster around mile 6 or 7 if I feel good, or should I try and go out at 9:15, but then feel like I'm risking complete failure later because I went out too fast?

Not a real runner but I would suggest you go out at 9:30 and see how you feel. Maintain until you get through Summit Hill. Once past the big climbs see how you are feeling. If I remember right you will be a little past mile 5 after the hill. If still feeling good I would kick it down from there. It's supposed to be a great day, add in race day adrenaline and awesome crowds and you might be amazed what you can do. Keep a little in the tank for the last mile and then drop one more gear and let it fly. Good luck and hope to see you out there.


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Climbinggonzo - 2011-09-29 7:41 PM

Getting dangerously close!

Hey, I've got a pacing question for all you real runners out there:

I just did my first half (Dick Beardsley Detroit Lakes) in 2:17, 3 weeks ago.  It is a tough course and very hot that day.  Since then I feel that my running has only gotten better.  I've been able to maintain a 9:30 or better pace on all my longer runs and today I did 3 miles at 8:17 and felt great.  What pacing strategy would you suggest I follow on Sunday?  My original goal was 10 min miles, then I dropped it to 9:30.  Should I go out at 9:30 and go faster around mile 6 or 7 if I feel good, or should I try and go out at 9:15, but then feel like I'm risking complete failure later because I went out too fast?

here is my "non-real runner" opinion.  I would say go out at 9:30 and pick it up if you feel like you can later.  Especially with most of summit being up hill, you might want to save some energy in the tank.  I know summit is not a steep hill, but it is defiinitely up hill. 

I have been running the course the last few weeks.  Summit slows me down and increases my Heart rate.   Like i said, i dont know a lot about running, but this is my experience.

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I don't consider myself a 'real' runner (well, not yet)  but I did have a very similar goal for the Monster Dash last year.  As the race got close, I found my average training splits dropping.  I guess I run faster in cooler weather.

Anyway, since it was my first race at that distance, I kept things conservative for the first half of the race.  My goal was 9:15 splits, but when I still felt good with 3-4 miles to go, I slowly sped up the pace and my mile splits dropped from 9:00 to 8:30.  This let me hit my best-case-scenario goal.  Credit the adrenalin, I suppose. 

So, my advice would be to stick to your plan and adjust as necessary once you're around 2/3 through the race.  Like the other guys already said, you want to have enough gas left to hit the Summit hill and finish with a good kick.

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Climbinggonzo - 2011-09-29 7:41 PM

Getting dangerously close!

Hey, I've got a pacing question for all you real runners out there:

I just did my first half (Dick Beardsley Detroit Lakes) in 2:17, 3 weeks ago.  It is a tough course and very hot that day.  Since then I feel that my running has only gotten better.  I've been able to maintain a 9:30 or better pace on all my longer runs and today I did 3 miles at 8:17 and felt great.  What pacing strategy would you suggest I follow on Sunday?  My original goal was 10 min miles, then I dropped it to 9:30.  Should I go out at 9:30 and go faster around mile 6 or 7 if I feel good, or should I try and go out at 9:15, but then feel like I'm risking complete failure later because I went out too fast?



I agree with Farlig and your thoughts - maintain 9:30 pace and see how you feel in the final 3 miles. Everyone has mentioned the hill to Summit just after mile 5, but the Summit is deceptively uphill for the next 2 miles. Do NOT let some potential slow miles in there get you down! (Attached is a graph of the elevation chart along with my mile splits from the last 2 years - something I made for my blog last week.)

So my thought is to try to hold on to 9:30s through the start of Summit, hold that for a BIT longer, and then kick it into another gear if you can around mile 7. Good luck! See you out there!!




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I am not a HUGE fan of targeting specific paces, especially on a hilly course.  Here's my plan, if this helps at all:

Miles 1-2 (downhill):  let my body guide the pace mostly through gravity and stay light on my feet and keep breathing under control  (translated: this part will be faster)
Miles 2-7.3 (mostly uphill):  don't blow up, ease up the hills as needed and recover on the flatter sections. I know this section very well so I know when I can push or not - there are some flat bits before the hill at Summit (translated: this will be slower)
Miles 7.4-10 (downhill):  Find that hard sustainable pace (hopefully around 9 m/m for me), put my head down, and run. (translated: as fast as possible)

This is basically what Steve did in his graph.  Fast to start, knowing the middle section is slow, then let er rip.
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