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I will not let it die!!!!! I haven't been doing much.  The wife is working on doing her first half marathon so she has been getting all the training time (I'll be doing it with her, her pace though).  I haven't been doing any routine but will be ramping back up soon.  Today was cool enough this morning that I finally got to break out one of the finisher jackets that I got at LP.  It felt pretty cool to walk around with it on.  I might not take it off. 

Im just plodding along trying to stay in shape. 3hrs/wk bike, 3hrs/wk run, 5-6hrs p90x/lifting...no real plan or goal...just trying to stay in shape. Plan on starting joergs cycling plan in Nov, and start swimming again in feb.

My only goal is to respond to every post on here until it hits 200 pages :)

One post closer to 200  

Nothing on the calendar at all. Nada.  Been doing a bunch of running and it is fantastic to run just because I can. No specific workouts, no plans, just run a little every day.  Already daydreaming about IMLP 2014....

So of course I watched the Olympics soon after we finished IMLP this year.  In particular, I watched the mens and ladies marathon.  I'm certain I heard the announcers say "And here is the start of just a marathon.  Thats right, they wont be swimming or biking anything prior to it.  Only running today."  Anyways, I will be running "just a marathon" in March so training starts too soon. 

I am only runnning a marathon in 4 weeks and I can tell you racing a marathon (hoping for Sub 3:30) is harder then fininshing a IM.

I don't like to hurt!!

I have wondered about this myself - after IMLP (my first full) I was hardly sore, same with my history in 70.3 races.  But half and full marathons, I definitely feel it the next day.   I understand I am faster with 'just' running, but am hard pressed to find this the only reason. 

(with you to 200...)

I can tell you that

My 1:04 swim, 5:57 bike with a flat tire and 4:15 marathon for a 11:25 finish at lake placid had my average HR for the day

Bike Avg HR was 134  http://connect.garmin.com/activity/202334637

Run Avg HR was 147 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/202334644

My avg HR to run sub 3:30 and hoopefully 3:20ish will be at least 155bpm.

That equals a harder effort and more hurt!!!

Heres a file from my last 1/2 Marathon http://connect.garmin.com/activity/220766664

Avg HR 157 - It HURT!!  but Hurt is GOOD. Thats why I say RACING A Marathon s harder then FINISHING a IM.

Good discussion. I will say recovery from IM is much longer and more difficult the a marathon. 

hey all!

how is everyone?? I am on the comeback trail enough to declare myself off the DL-8 weeks from my injury and ran 8 yesterday and biked 30 on Saturday. 

what marathon are you doing, Jim?

and I'm with you in principle as the evidence strongly suggests an IM marathon is considerably tougher than a 'regular' marathon-if both are truly raced; of course, pehaps it is just semantics but racing the long course IM is obviously harder than racing the marathon--

and finishing an IM but holding back and staying comfortably within yourself and not pushing it may be easier than racing the marathon--just sayin' and that puts me in both camps

I could have finished the IM at placid in 16 hrs and it would have been a blast, but I hurt trying to push myself that day as I was still trying to achieve a time goal and stayed as close to the edge as I could

Has anyone seen a description of the weather on race day in 2012? The number of DNFs were roughly double from previous years, and I am curious if there is a knowledgeable opinion on why.

I have heard of a headwind on the bike, which I believe I felt for what seemed like 25 miles.  And I know I had trouble with the heat, but it was only about 85 degrees that day.  As this was my first IM, I am looking to understand what my body did that day and how to adjust in the future.

Any "official" declaration about the conditions that day?

thanks,

t