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Berlin Marathon: new world record
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 2011-09-26 10:48 AM |
Champion  5312   Calgary |  Subject: Berlin Marathon: new world recordhttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/sports/patrick-makau-sets-world-r... 2:03:38 I love the bit where they had 5 pacers, spread out in a v formation. Wonder if I could get sub 4 with that type of help. |
| 2011-09-26 10:55 AM in reply to: #3700411 |
Elite 3779    Ontario | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record Wow, big slap in the face to women and the whole controversy about not allowing them to pace off men - but the men can pace off other guys whose sole job is to act as a pacemaker! Impressive result, but seems like a pretty bad double standard. |
| 2011-09-26 11:07 AM in reply to: #3700411 |
Master 2759 Los Angeles, CA | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record Wow! Amazing! Such a great runner! Thanks for the read. =) |
| 2011-09-26 11:15 AM in reply to: #3700411 |
Master 1927 Guilford, CT | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record I saw the coverage on tv yesterday. The winner still had legs. It was impressive. He had a lot of gas left it looked like. Running a 4:42/mi pace for 26.2 is just crazy to me. Really just out there. Most people can't do 1 lap around the track at that pace. Paula had a great comeback performance. She definitely looked fatigued finishing up but watch for her in 2012. Womens winner has to be the gold favor in 2012 though. Also has the half marathon record right now. Useless trivia: she is also married to the guy (Mutai) who crushed Boston last year. Talk about a fast couple. |
| 2011-09-26 11:26 AM in reply to: #3700428 |
| Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record GoFaster - 2011-09-26 5:55 AM Wow, big slap in the face to women and the whole controversy about not allowing them to pace off men - but the men can pace off other guys whose sole job is to act as a pacemaker! Impressive result, but seems like a pretty bad double standard. um...I don't think there's a rule against getting 5 women to help pace another woman. So no real double standard.
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| 2011-09-26 12:30 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record Wow, that's just crazy fast ... and that he didn't 'just' run it, but used tactics to drop Gebrselassie with the zigzags, and then having to jump over a sign before the finish? I also didn't know Boston wasn't a WR-allowed venue. |
| 2011-09-26 12:49 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record I could easily break 2 hours on 26.2 miles. on my BIKE!!! |
| 2011-09-26 12:53 PM in reply to: #3700663 |
Master 2264 Sunbury, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record tuwood - 2011-09-26 1:49 PM I could easily break 2 hours on 26.2 miles. on my BIKE!!! I could just barely do it right now. Maybe. Without many climbs. |
| 2011-09-26 12:55 PM in reply to: #3700623 |
Runner | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record TriAya - 2011-09-26 1:30 PM I also didn't know Boston wasn't a WR-allowed venue. Net drop in elevation, I believe. |
| 2011-09-26 2:07 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Member 1083 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record |
| 2011-09-26 4:09 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
| 260 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record No rule against 5 women pacing another women but it wouldn't make an ounce of difference because this was a MIXED race - totally double standards |
| 2011-09-26 4:13 PM in reply to: #3701103 |
Elite 3498 Laguna Beach | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record Agreed on the double standards- and the new ruling is a step backwards. It's heralded my return to writing editorials. |
| 2011-09-26 4:16 PM in reply to: #3700623 |
Extreme Veteran 511 St Johns, Florida | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record TriAya - 2011-09-26 12:30 PM I also didn't know Boston wasn't a WR-allowed venue. Not circuitous... |
| 2011-09-26 4:20 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Runner | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record It is a poorly conceived rule that works in track events, but not road races. Unfortunately, they made the rule broadly applicable and did not designate the difference between the two types of racing. The purpose of the rule was more related to championship-type races where men and women run separate, to eliminate the use of male pacers for female races. Again, this works in track events, and some of the championship road races, but for most others, especially the marathon, it falls flat. The women's WR holder remained the same, though. It just changed the time and venue. |
| 2011-09-26 7:05 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Member 75 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record Who gives a crap about the pacing rule and double-standards. The dude ran a 2:03!!! Are you kidding me? Maybe his time was effected by the rule, but his level of effort was the same and because of that I say CONGRATS! Wincing through a long run like that with concentration and your eye on the prize is a HUGE mental accomplishment to go with the physical. A big CONGRATS to everyone else who finsihed behind this animal. |
| 2011-09-26 7:21 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Pro 4838 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record I just did my first marathon yesterday and ran 4:22:55,,,, so he was just barely fast then me.  If I can cut 2 hours and 20 minutes off my time, I'll be in the hunt. |
| 2011-09-26 7:36 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Extreme Veteran 1001 Highlands Ranch, Colorado | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record I am against pacers, but 2:03:38 is still incredible (but still the third fastest marathon time this year)! I'm hoping that the weather in Chicago is good so that we can see how fast Moses Mosop really is, Moses Mosop ran a 2:03:06 in Boston. It will also be interesting to see if Hall can break the American Record. |
| 2011-09-26 9:44 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Member 473 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record absolutely brilliant performance! im just waiting for day 2 hours is broken, probably within a decade or two someone will |
| 2011-09-27 5:55 AM in reply to: #3700411 |
Regular 105 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record Saw some of the race on TV and it looked fast! Didn't see the finish but interested to read that one of the Pacers held on to finish 2nd! Didn't think that was allowed, but credit to the guy for sticking with it! Rich |
| 2011-09-27 7:18 AM in reply to: #3701473 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record evb4mvp - 2011-09-26 11:44 PM absolutely brilliant performance! im just waiting for day 2 hours is broken, probably within a decade or two someone will Jonathon and Ross do a good job of talking about the two hour barrier on their blog: http://www.sportsscientists.com/2011/04/sub-2-hour-marathon-debate.... They also discuss this race in great detail: http://www.sportsscientists.com/2011/09/berlin-2011-inside-makaus-2... And, since Boston came up, they discuss that as well: http://www.sportsscientists.com/2011/04/boston-not-significantly-ai... Shane |
| 2011-09-27 9:01 AM in reply to: #3700411 |
| Veteran 530 | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record If your going to do that why not have teams like cycling? |
| 2011-09-27 9:20 AM in reply to: #3700411 |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico Bronze member | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record I think I could pace him for the first quarter mile and keep him from going out too fast! |
| 2011-09-27 6:03 PM in reply to: #3701595 |
Master 1404 Saratoga Springs, Utah | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record rich-racer-uk - 2011-09-27 4:55 AM Saw some of the race on TV and it looked fast! Didn't see the finish but interested to read that one of the Pacers held on to finish 2nd! Didn't think that was allowed, but credit to the guy for sticking with it! Rich At Berlin, there has been a long tradition of allowing the pacemakers to finish if they feel fit. |
| 2011-09-27 7:50 PM in reply to: #3700411 |
Master 1404 Saratoga Springs, Utah | Subject: RE: Berlin Marathon: new world record |
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