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2011-12-10 11:29 PM
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I also enjoyed this year's coverage. Yes - its absolutely formulaic but still fun to watch.  It was fun to watch Crowie and Chrissie win again. Crowie gives off a quiet humility mixed with laser like focus and Chrissie seems to emit pure joy as she goes about doing what she loves most (or crushing other racer's  hopes and dreams if you are a cynic).



2011-12-11 6:32 AM
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I enjoyed it.

But, not as much as I have in previous years.  I really really like the stories, and there just didn't seem to be that many of them this year...that was the biggest dissapointment for me.

However, the lady that trained while doing Chemo, win she finished, really got me choked up.

The lady that lost all that weight, that really hit home as well.  I'm hoping to follow in her footsteps.

 

All in all it was a good show, just not a great one like years past have been.

 

2011-12-11 6:52 AM
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The lady who lost all her weight is Tara costa the biggest loser winner, funny thing is a couple months ago a patient of mine said she is a friend of his daughters and he ran the half marathon with her in the show and told me she was doing IM kona but was unaware they were going to showcase her.I wish they showcased more age groupers even the ones who don't have a special story but maybe the AG winners etc.......if the pro race is not compelling like last year or the Scott/Allen race from years past they should spend more time on age groupers...... We can watch the universal sports channel if we want to see pro race. But just my 2 cents
2011-12-11 7:41 AM
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Maybe next year it will be expanded in coverage with NBC introducing their own 24 hour sports channel, called nbcsports.  I wouldn't mind if they moved it to nbc sports and showed 3 hours.
2011-12-11 8:57 AM
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I enjoyed the program, though not as much as in previous years mainly because most of the human interest stories were really skimmed over and didn't go into any depth.

I thought the story on the woman going through chemo was touching and told well, and the double amputee inspirational (didn't he DNF last year?)

However, they should have shown more about Tara Costa (most viewers don't know that she's a BL), should have shown more coverage of Decatur217 (hardly saw his kids or training).  I still don't know why they featured the restaurant owner.  They pretended to feature the race car driver, but other than a few seconds of car shots and a few seconds of interviews the really didn't.  I would have preferred that they dropped the restaurant guy and race car guy to develop the stories on the others.

I really didn't like the following of the older fellows collapsing at the end of the course.  It might be inspirational to some, but it reminds me of where I'll be one day.  If I'm featured at Kona, I don't want it to be for suffering at 17 hours....

Brian   

 

 

 

2011-12-11 9:18 AM
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I was disappointed.  Even realizing that NBC doesn't put on this show for "us"....the less than 1% who actually do triathlons and understand what it's all about...I felt they really didn't convey what "it's really about".  Spending so long focusing on the guys trying to finish that couldn't even stand up...made it look like a weird spectacle instead of the great achievement that ironman distance racing is.  


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2011-12-11 11:43 AM
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I forgot one element that changed. Something that was part of the 2010 broadcast that was suspiciously absent from the 2011.

A commercial for the 5150 series.

Sorry, had to mention it. Cool

2011-12-11 11:49 AM
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I’ve been waiting to enter the Kona lottery until I was confident of finishing strong.  Now that they started the general lottery legacy entry program in 2012 I guess the time has come to start entering.   They say odds are <2% of getting selected on a single entry.  The new program multiplies your entry by the number of years you have entered thereby increasing your odds each year.  Doing the math my odds jump to 5% when I enter the 50 AG, 15% at 55 AG, 20% at 60 AG….50% at the 80 AG.  Unless the other AGers slow down faster than I this looks like my best odds of ever getting to Kona!

I looked out the window at a cold 25 degree frosty morning, entered the Kona lottery, laced up my running shoes and headed out the door.  Burr!

 

2011-12-11 2:38 PM
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I found that "ironman 2011" was a big 'hit' with the pro, Tor GoFast Rent, as of an hour ago.
2011-12-11 3:41 PM
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The live broadcast is the one for triathletes (the live feed on race day) imho.

I enjoyed watching the live coverage on race day immensely....it made me want to go out and train.  Yesterday only made me want to buy a Ford Explorer.



2011-12-11 6:03 PM
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I may be in the minority, but I like most of the NBC broadcast. I know that as a "real triathlete" that's not cool, but I like the music and the announcer's voice.

The amount of slow mo was ridiculous, thought.

(and I've only seen about half of it -- it's been a busy weekend!)

2011-12-11 6:12 PM
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Decatur217 - 2011-12-09 9:23 AM

I got an email from the producer of the episode on Wednesday saying my 6 minute clip that was originally planned had to drop to 2 minuets because EVERY storyline finished the race this year. They said normally that never happens and it gives more time for the other stories. 

 

Oh well. Enjoy it tomorrow and hopefully they make me not look like an idiot.

Even shortened, your feature was inspirational and had some very nice footage of the kids you are working with. Great job!!

2011-12-11 6:57 PM
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2011-12-11 8:53 PM
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Fred D - 2011-12-11 7:57 PM
trishie - 2011-12-11 7:03 PM

I may be in the minority, but I like most of the NBC broadcast. I know that as a "real triathlete" that's not cool, but I like the music and the announcer's voice.

The amount of slow mo was ridiculous, thought.

(and I've only seen about half of it -- it's been a busy weekend!)

I enjoy it too.

My point is that WE (triathletes) are not the target audience.

I set low expectations for it, but always enjoy the whole thing (well I thought the Ford ads embedded last year were a bit much). I didn't catch this year's yet.

 

Then you will just LOVE this year's broadcast, Fred

2011-12-11 10:23 PM
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Whatever.  I enjoyed watching it.  It's entertainment, and I think NBC does a good job (although it did seem a bit disjointed).

Being at IM Coz didn't really make me want to do another IM.  Watching Kona does.



2011-12-11 10:32 PM
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Nobody cares but us.  When you go to work tommorrow ask some of your co-workers if they saw the Kona race Saturday.....and prepare for blank stares. 

On another note, IMO, covering old guys wrecking is stupid. 

2011-12-12 12:53 AM
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I actually thought the video quality was amazing.  Yes, they can speed it up several frames per second.  Looked good on a big TV.  As always, there wasn't enough actual race coverage, but that's why I park myself in front of the computer for 8+hrs on race day.

Can't say that I mind the feel good stories.  Hard to dislike the double amputee or colon cancer story.  They are truly inspirational.  But, would you have let that old doctor fellow continue racing if you were RD and saw him fall like 12 times? 

I do mind that commercials took up 40% of the broadcast.

2011-12-12 7:23 AM
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I enjoyed (and awesome job to Roy!).  I didn't pay a dime for the show...No need to hate on NBC because their job is to make money, not promote Triathlon.  I definitely would have liked much more coverage of the pro race and a bit more of the personal sagas (not the rich wine guy, though), but the bottom line is that there aren't enough of us to pay for huge productions and pregame and postgame shows like they do for football. 
2011-12-12 8:44 AM
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runninirish - 2011-12-11 3:41 PM


The live broadcast is the one for triathletes (the live feed on race day) imho.

I enjoyed watching the live coverage on race day immensely....it made me want to go out and train.  Yesterday only made me want to buy a Ford Explorer.



I enjoyed it too, I missed the first 20 minutes or so do to breaking up a fight between the kids. (Yes, post IM, I have to resume normal parenting duties.) But I thought they covered the pro races decently. There is not too much I thought they could have added without the average person's eyes glazing over. They covered Chrissie's injury and come from behind run, Cafrae trying to chase her down. Alexander's great bike performance of 13 minutes faster than last year.

Then the human interest stories were pretty wide, Cancer, double amputee, biggest loser contestant, Decatur (which was my favorite even before I heard the rest of the story here, way to go man!) and then all the old people. They concluded with the lady who missed the cutoff by 4 seconds, which brought the whole thing full circle.

My question is what do you think was missing from the show?

Also, why did they keep interviewing McCormick? I know he won last year, but he didn't even bother to try to defend his title this year. I understand he is going in a new direction, but I could have done without him.
2011-12-12 8:45 AM
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I enjoyed watching it this year but definately noticed the difference between this year and last years broadcast.


2011-12-12 8:51 AM
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If you consider the fact that they needed to compress this to 1.5 hours, they did a very good job. I would have like to have seen more, maybe something about the equipment, but I doubt that would have mass appeal. The human interest stories were very good and inspirational. How could you not root for the cancer survivors or the double amputee? I didn't need to see that guy falling down so many times. When he fell against the barrier and it cracked, I thought that was a bit too much and didn't say anything positive about the sport.

I will say it is pretty awesome to watch when on the trainer! Except too many commercials that need to be edited out.

2011-12-12 10:06 AM
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Left Brain - 2011-12-11 11:32 PM

On another note, IMO, covering old guys wrecking is stupid. 

I couldn't disagree more.  I watch these guys at twice my age, struggling, going down, getting back up and refusing to quit for no other reason than to complete their race - they're not in it for anything else except themselves.  Made me stop and think about my lack of motivation lately and the fact I've been shrugging off workouts for no other reason than "I'm tierd".

If those 80 year old's can HTFU, then so can I.

2011-12-12 10:30 AM
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anyone know if there is a rebroadcast? missed it.
2011-12-12 11:26 AM
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It was a good show overall, not as good as some years, however.

Music was GREAT, really added to the show.

Slow-mo a tad over-done but there's more drama to that than regular speed for some reason, and that show is all about drama.

They did show all those old guys finishing so it didn't look too much like exploitation watching them fall and run in those utterly painful looking postures. When they asked the one guy why he does this and he replied, after a poignant delay, "That's a good question", I laughed my off.

It's unfortunate they couldn't have had a little more about the missed-by-four-second lady than the end, it would have made you feel more for her.

They tried to do A LOT and it felt like they glossed over so much in order to put in to many snippets, many of the stories didn't get much attention.

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