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2006-05-04 3:27 PM
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Screw getting faster!!!  Wear a gorilla costume for the bike and the run.

Really,  I think I'm kind of in the same place you are.  I just have to remind myself that I do this for fun.  I'm never gonna make a dime doing this stuff, so why not make the priority having fun and not stress out about how fast I can go.

2006-05-04 3:31 PM
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Is there any reason getting up in the morning knowing that the day may not be better than yesterday?

Seems like an extremely negative point of view. Me, I'm 50 years old, still exploring my limits, believe it or not, still getting faster.

What are you doing to improve? Adequate volume? Speed work? Professional coaching? Where there's a will there's a way, but first you have to want to, then you have to put forth the effort.

2006-05-04 3:32 PM
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I just looked at your logs. WOW! That is quite a blog you got going there. 

2006-05-04 3:32 PM
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Well, I deal with it by looking at the insanity factor.

If there's something out there that seems ultimately absurd to the average person, I wanna do it. Why? Because I've at least done womething they haven't. I also try to have fun. If they had a race where I would have to race in a dress, I'd do it. Think competitive hashing. Yeah....That'd be coooool.
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Subject: RE: The Limits On Getting Faster - super duper frustrated
TriForrestTri - 2006-05-04 3:27 PM

Screw getting faster!!!  Wear a gorilla costume for the bike and the run.

Really,  I think I'm kind of in the same place you are.  I just have to remind myself that I do this for fun.  I'm never gonna make a dime doing this stuff, so why not make the priority having fun and not stress out about how fast I can go.



My thoughts exactly.

I wouldn't mind getting faster... but I also know that I am just not gifted... so, I will focus on having fun and doing it because I enjoy the process.



2006-05-04 3:37 PM
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You have to understand that the fast people have either been running, swimming, or biking, or even tri'ing for 10+ years and experience, time in the saddle, miles on your body add up and make one faster and more confident. I have been a runner since junior high and only doing tri's for 1 year so far, only swimming for about 10 months, and biking for only 3 or 4 months and I am already faster than a majority of the people I train with.

Now I am not bragging by any means, but it may have something to do with my youthful exuberance, or my athletic ability, who knows. All I know is that being a lifelong runner has def. helped me become a better swimmer/biker and in turn a better triathlete.

Just keep at it and don't give up, because once you do, they win. It may also come with an additude change. I have never once in my life accepted that someone is or will beat me, even if i know that they are faster than me. I amcontinually trying to get faster/better. I am a true competitior, if only in my little world of mine.

Good luck and keep tri'in.
2006-05-04 4:06 PM
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runpuddrun - 2006-05-04 3:37 PM You have to understand that the fast people have either been running, swimming, or biking, or even tri'ing for 10+ years and experience, time in the saddle, miles on your body add up and make one faster and more confident.

This part really rings with me.  Scott, you've been riding for a while but you haven't been tri'ing that long.  Give it some time.  For example, I'm 38 y.o.  I may be past my physical prime years, but I'm in the best shape of my life because I finally GOT OFF MY A$$!  I figure it will take years to find out what my limits are.  The good news is I don't have years of physical abuse on my joints so hopefully there is a silver lining in the clouds there.  Now, by the time I'm 50 I'll adopt your attitude because I figure I'll be pretty much done for and have one foot in the grave because that is REALLY old! 

{ducking, running out of room}

 

2006-05-04 4:07 PM
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oneword - 2006-05-04 4:19 PM
  • .... is there really any point in trying to get any faster if you're mediocre to begin with?


  • If you train hard and smart, then you won't be "mediocre" for long.

    I train and race so that I can't beat everyone that's out there. Those people that beat me? Well, I'll train harder/smarter and beat them next time.

    I train because I love to compete and especially love to do well at it. Anything that will make me faster in my eyes is worth doing (financially feasible of course).
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    oneword - 2006-05-04 5:08 PM And as I'm 44, I'm really concerned about injury, so I'm being careful not to do too much.

    Swim/Ride/Run lots old man...

    (heeding hanglooses advice and running out of the room)

    And I mean that in the kindest, most sincere of ways.



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    So much in your post it's hard to addres it all. 

    At 44, you're relatively young, so maybe you're being overcautious about injuries. You're averaging ~50 miles per month, ~12.5 per week, I would consider that a good start. What types of workouts are you doing? All I see are "leisurely mid evening runs," to race fast you have to train fast, but first you have to build a base. Seems like you are well on the way to establishing that base, just need to build on it.

     "My legs scream if I run more than 3x a week." What does this mean? Is it joint pain or muscle pain? You know the old saying, "No pain no gain"? Well within reason there is some truth there. running fast hurts, albeit in a good sort of way.

    I'd suggest after your first tri you look for a "next" race (CajunMan?), and follow an intermediate plan that has speedwork and tempo runs.

    I really don't believe "There's no one to train with around here," I have friends in Jackson that are gung ho triathletes, but slow runners. I'll see if I can get them contact you. Meanwhile, work the network, ask at bike shops, talk to folks at races, volunteer at the ones you don't race in. I'm sure there are local folks that are in the same boat as you.

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    You've only been at running since Jan.

    I'm finally feeling moderately "fast" with my running.  It's been ~3 years of solid work to get here.

    IMO of the three sports, running takes the longest time and most consistent training to see improvements.

    Give it time, keep doing what you're doing.  Triathlon is a sport that tests your patience. 

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    Two and a half years ago at the Los Angeles Tri, 17.5 mph over 24 miles on the bike and 12:33 per mile on the run of six miles. Now I'm averaging 22 mph (with lights) over 20 miles and I just broke into the seven minute range on my nine mile runs. I'm also 40 pounds lighter and can outrun my son (for now).

    Patience. It will come. You will be rewarded. You will feel good. Take an objective approach to your training and good things will come. In the end, it's all about consistency.

    You may want to consider hooking up with a coach.
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    2006-05-05 6:37 AM
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    Having problems adjusting to life in Miss.? Try blacking out a few teeth and losing 50 points off your IQ.

    Just kidding...just kidding

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