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2012-05-05 8:21 AM

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http://stgeorge.ironmanlive.com/#axzz1twx7GvLM

Link to coverage of IM St. George. Last running of this IM race.



2012-05-05 10:08 AM
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Is this a watching thread, kinda? I know of four BTers there ...
2012-05-05 10:49 AM
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The athlete tracker shows a guy finished the swim in 25 minutes...wow.  Is that right?  He would have beaten the field by a half hour.
2012-05-05 1:05 PM
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No, 25 minutes is not right. And based on reports and swim splits, the conditions are brutal. At least 100 either pulled or missed the cutoff. Bryan dunn swam about 10 minutes slower than usual
2012-05-05 2:28 PM
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2012-05-05 2:55 PM
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Fred D - 2012-05-05 3:28 PM Swim and bike times are VERY slow. Conditions must be tough.

One of my BT friend's husbands was in the race and she posted FB photos, huge winds.  Whitecaps on the lake.  He pulled out after most of the swim puking.  It's a hard day out there, he's done CdA a few times so it isn't like he can't handle an IM.



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2012-05-05 3:40 PM
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QueenZipp - 2012-05-05 1:55 PM

Fred D - 2012-05-05 3:28 PM Swim and bike times are VERY slow. Conditions must be tough.

One of my BT friend's husbands was in the race and she posted FB photos, huge winds.  Whitecaps on the lake.  He pulled out after most of the swim puking.  It's a hard day out there, he's done CdA a few times so it isn't like he can't handle an IM.


NOT what I want to hear when I've got to get in that same reservoir in two weeks!!

Guess I'd better go check on our locals (heard that one is on run already and another two past first bike split.)

2012-05-05 3:48 PM
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QueenZipp - 2012-05-05 12:55 PM

Fred D - 2012-05-05 3:28 PM Swim and bike times are VERY slow. Conditions must be tough.

One of my BT friend's husbands was in the race and she posted FB photos, huge winds.  Whitecaps on the lake.  He pulled out after most of the swim puking.  It's a hard day out there, he's done CdA a few times so it isn't like he can't handle an IM.

That's BT's velcromom's husband I believe

2012-05-05 4:56 PM
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A friend posted this on his facebook and he DNF`ed

"All of a sudden at mile 65 ish they stop about 10-20 of us saying we just missed the preliminary bike cutoff by 2lousy minutes. The number of bikers quickly swells as everybody is kind of in disbelief. " 

He is not a strong swimmer and swam just over 2Hours and missed the bike cutoff

2012-05-05 6:07 PM
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Bryan Dunn is 2nd in his AG 7.22 miles into the run!

Go Bryan!

2012-05-05 6:10 PM
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Run strong Bryan!

Not sure if IM live is right as it looks not updated. Has anyone seen Bryan finish?



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2012-05-05 6:16 PM
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10:28 into race and lots of athletes men and women just going out on the run....brutal day.
2012-05-05 6:20 PM
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Bryan just finished, 10:35 ish
2012-05-05 6:21 PM
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10:34 about Bryan finished.....brutal conditions...he looked good and after him more men started coming in.
2012-05-05 6:27 PM
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Congrats Bryan! Sounds like it was a brutal day out there

This is from the Ironman live feed:
Meredith lead this race all day and was never challenged for that lead. Her finish time was over 40 minutes off last years winning time. She said at one point she was only going 6mph on the bike and at another point she was going 52mph. That says it all about the hills & wind today.
2012-05-05 8:28 PM
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They just posted on IronmanLive that Bryan won his age group!  Congrats Bryan.

 

Some of our 2012 Ironman St. George Men's age group champions
Tejada, Raul 2/1/1 24/M18-24 01:05:37 05:33:01 03:32:06 10:15:18
Hemming, Taylor 9/6/1 28/M25-29 01:02:09 05:52:41 03:04:45 10:02:54
Christenson, B.J. 1/5/1 34/M30-34 00:58:38 05:59:28 03:06:42 10:09:23
Sloan, Chuck 7/3/1 35/M35-39 01:03:10 05:44:57 03:07:26 10:00:02
Dunn, Bryan 21/2/1 44/M40-44 01:08:23 05:36:05 03:29:24 10:18:48
Stephens, Dan 12/1/1 49/M45-49 01:10:51 05:41:26 03:37:36 10:34:50
Poisson, John 4/1/1 50/M50-54 01:05:30 06:06:07 03:38:05 10:56:51
McCluskey, Dan 1/1/1 55/M55-59 01:10:31 06:04:23 03:56:56 11:19:26



2012-05-05 8:46 PM
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When he crossed the line they must have had the pro time up.

Congrats Bryan!

You accomplished what you set out to do win your AG. Putting that big goal out there and accomplishing it....very impressive!

2012-05-06 11:48 AM
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Yup.  that was my hubby that got pulled.  He's done 4 IMs (Canada, Moo, CdA, AZ) in the last 3 years.  He's a 1:08 swimmer, 11 hour Ironman.   It was unreal out there.  The rescue boats were back and forth...non-stop....full.  At least 1 kayak turtled. People were yelling for help all over.   Unlike most IMs, you could swim for a while without seeing another person...or buoy.  Buoys were blown off course.  Some people made it back with a car to get their bikes, we didn't, and they told me that over 150 were transported to the finish line.  Mike Reilly annonced that it was the toughest US IM swim ever.....Meredith Kesler said the swim felt she was dropped into an episode of Lost.  WTC let the athletes that were pulled from the water, and those that missed the cutoff (lots) finish the race without a chip.  Nice call, I thought - don't know how many did it.  Jeff did NOT - but he's out riding the bike course today.  Wink

HUGE CONGRATS to those that finished. Tough day, way to make it happen!!!

eta: Jeff was seasick, it sounds like.  puking up a storm.  There are some really good descriptions, including Bryan's, over at ST

Me?  I'm exhausted!!



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2012-05-06 2:27 PM
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IMSG yesterday was my first Ironman ever... and I finished!

Are they all this tough?Surprised

Holy crap it was gnarly out there!!!

About 10 minutes into the swim the wind started blowing, hard. By 20 minutes, I had waves coming over my head from behind. My wife at the start line said sand was blowing all across the lake. At the 2nd turn when you start heading back, I only saw 1 buoy the entire 1.8km return trip. The Salt Lake newpaper reported winds were 40mph and waves up to 5'.

In the water, we could see nothing, but more waves. Maybe another swimmer every few minutes. I would pause and find the rock island since I knew we passed around it. That was my only guide for the entire return trip. I thought I'd do a 1:15 swim, but I think it ended up around 1:40. Had fears of not making 2:20 since I didn't have a watch.

You couldn't stop and catch a breather because the waves were in your face and you'd just be pushed backward. Couldn't side stroke or breast stroke because the waves would just pour over your head. I literally felt like I was fighting for survival. Made it though, and VERY proud of that.

Then onto the bike. Same 40mph winds on the bike. I should have been able to ride a nice 6 hour leg according to previous trips on the route and normal pacing. Yesterday, 7:30 for my bike. When I was passed by the 2 leaders, riders were pushing along at a blistering 6mph on a 'false flat' into canyon headwinds. The leaders BLASTED by probably doing about 10-12MPH.

So you can put the hardest ride I've ever done on top of the hardest swim imaginable.

The run was just dealing with the energy you spent battling the winds and this stupid course they laid out. Zig-zag-zig-zag, etc, etc. Great for spectators I guess, but having to cover all those back and forth's really just made it an uninteresting and therefore psychological challenge.

I ended up finishing about 2.5 hours slower than what I was hoping for, and felt capable of.But being that there was a whopping 28% DNF rate on this race, I was happy to make it to the end of my first IM.

28%... does that qualify this as the most difficult Ironman in history? Sure as hell felt like it should be.

I give mad props to anyone who survived that swim. It was 'survival' out there, bottom line.
Good job to any other BTers who survived this race yesterday!

2012-05-06 4:28 PM
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gwbuild - 2012-05-06 2:27 PM

IMSG yesterday was my first Ironman ever... and I finished!

Are they all this tough?Surprised

Holy crap it was gnarly out there!!!

About 10 minutes into the swim the wind started blowing, hard. By 20 minutes, I had waves coming over my head from behind. My wife at the start line said sand was blowing all across the lake. At the 2nd turn when you start heading back, I only saw 1 buoy the entire 1.8km return trip. The Salt Lake newpaper reported winds were 40mph and waves up to 5'.

In the water, we could see nothing, but more waves. Maybe another swimmer every few minutes. I would pause and find the rock island since I knew we passed around it. That was my only guide for the entire return trip. I thought I'd do a 1:15 swim, but I think it ended up around 1:40. Had fears of not making 2:20 since I didn't have a watch.

You couldn't stop and catch a breather because the waves were in your face and you'd just be pushed backward. Couldn't side stroke or breast stroke because the waves would just pour over your head. I literally felt like I was fighting for survival. Made it though, and VERY proud of that.

Then onto the bike. Same 40mph winds on the bike. I should have been able to ride a nice 6 hour leg according to previous trips on the route and normal pacing. Yesterday, 7:30 for my bike. When I was passed by the 2 leaders, riders were pushing along at a blistering 6mph on a 'false flat' into canyon headwinds. The leaders BLASTED by probably doing about 10-12MPH.

So you can put the hardest ride I've ever done on top of the hardest swim imaginable.

The run was just dealing with the energy you spent battling the winds and this stupid course they laid out. Zig-zag-zig-zag, etc, etc. Great for spectators I guess, but having to cover all those back and forth's really just made it an uninteresting and therefore psychological challenge.

I ended up finishing about 2.5 hours slower than what I was hoping for, and felt capable of.But being that there was a whopping 28% DNF rate on this race, I was happy to make it to the end of my first IM.

28%... does that qualify this as the most difficult Ironman in history? Sure as hell felt like it should be.

I give mad props to anyone who survived that swim. It was 'survival' out there, bottom line.
Good job to any other BTers who survived this race yesterday!



WOW. Great job finishing!

I guess we all know why they changed this IM to a 70.3!
2012-05-06 5:00 PM
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I took my first DNF. And this was 110% the right choice for me. Disappointing for sure but I learned a valuble lesson in respecting my limits. I also learned that a race experience isn't rich simply because of a finish but with what can be had by not finishing.

I was about between the first and second turn buoys, at about 23 minutes into what was a perfect swim to that point when the waves got so bad I was being thrown all over and moved about 100 yds in 20 minutes. I couldn't see. Anyone nor could I see any bouys. I went from being okay to feeling really unsafe. Getting to a boat was safely was the priority. It was never a question of should I or shouldn't I. And then it went crazy. People were screaming for helpand you could here the sheer terror in their voice, especially one man-help me, please someone help me. I was yanked out by what turned out to be 2 direct competitors of mie, crumpled on the floor of the boat and focused on calming myself-at age 8 I was a near drown, so some of this was that same wild eyed fear. The boat next got the man who was screaming and he joined me on the floor sobbing. The comments were the same 'this is my xx Ironman and I'm a 1:10 swimmer.'

After quieting my body and mind, I started helping pull people from the water, then telling them they were safe. I have never seen such terror in peoples eyes. We were taken into the warming tent with several of us treated for hypothermia. The scene was a repeat of this is my xx Ironman. When they let us onto our bikes I gave it my best but got at mile 38 I was still shaking with cold and was feeling really unsettled and knew it wasn't my day.

In the end I learned so much from this experience. It was rich and full. I learned where that fine line is regarding feeling safe vs unsafe. I learned that I can indeed reach out, put my arm around someone and provide comfort, something I struggle with daily. I learned that helping your fellow mates to safety is gratifying. When I got back to the finish area people kept apologizing for my day and I learned that this race, however wrong it went, was exactly how it was supposed to be for me.

And I embrace the lessons learned with humility and grace. These were truly gifts. And the biggest gift by far is simply living to race another race.


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2012-05-06 5:35 PM
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Suzanne, it sounds like you made the best decision. Continuing on in those conditions would have been crazy. I am so glad that you are safe and were able to help other people yesterday. Everyone always thinks the actual race is what makes the Ironman experience what it is. I think the reason we keep coming back to the race is because of what we learn about ourselves during training and on race day. Reading your report gave me chills and brought tears.
2012-05-06 7:06 PM
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Suzanne, so sorry to hear about how your swim went. I couldn't hear anyone screaming for help out there. It was just too crazy out. Such a change from every other morning we were out there.

Personally, I really felt like I was battling for survival more than swimming in a race.

Its good you pushed thru and took up their offer to still participate in the race. I'm very happy to hear that. Sounds like you are taking a positive away from the experience. I heard of so many others who were angry, frustrated. Very happy to hear you kept it positive Smile

 

I was going to share another experience. As I was exiting up the ramp, a guy coming up at the same time was being told he had to swim back out and around the final red buoy because he cut inside of it... probably didn't even realize it because visibility was so hard. I can't imagine thinking you're done and having to swim back out and around. Harsh.

 

And the guy who helped me with my T2 bag said he was on a kayak at the lake earlier and was washed off of it. Lost the kayak and had to swim to the island for a rescue. He said a few of the safety people had lost their kayaks. Scary for them! The AtoZion You Tube video just doesn't do justice to what we went thru on the far end of the lake.

 

2012-05-06 7:08 PM
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i read a report on Facebook from Iron Cowboy James Lawrence, said it's the worst swim conditions he's seen, if the race had been started half an hour later it would have turned into a duathlon.  Over 400 people rescued.  Sh*t.

Scary stuff, IM is not a reason to die! 

Well done to anyone who finished it, to anyone who DNF'd - well done for trying, not sure I wouldve got into the water at all!

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