Deflating Tires Post Ride
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2012-09-16 8:03 AM |
Greenville, SC | Subject: Deflating Tires Post Ride Why do people do this? When done with a ride, they let some of the air out of their tires? Am I supposed to be doing this? |
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2012-09-16 8:19 AM in reply to: #4413268 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride That used to be the norm in the early 80's when I started racing bikes and I was told that it would reduce the stress and therefore the stretch of the tires (we all raced on tubulars back then...). Today, there's absolutely no reason that I can see to deflate the tires. You may want lower the pressure a bit if you need to leave your bike in the car for a while though (heat will make the air expand and if you're already close to the upper limit of pressure, that can cause the tire to explode. In general, leaving a bike in the car is bad... it will dry out the rubber compound in the tire from the heat). I do see a great reason NOT to deflate the tire though... if you do that, you can't stand the bike and any pressure on the tire now will cause a flat spot and also you will have direct contact between the edge of the rim and the inner tube, which can cause pinch flats. |
2012-09-16 8:32 AM in reply to: #4413268 |
Master 1402 Cumming, Georgia | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride I let just a little bit out if the tires will be inside the car when it's hot out. My theory is it will keep the tires from popping from the excessive heat inside the car. I may be wasting my time but it makes me feel better. |
2012-09-16 10:39 AM in reply to: #4413268 |
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2012-09-16 12:36 PM in reply to: #4413268 |
Member 796 Malvern, PA | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride Not necessary. Even in a hot car, I think if PV=nRT, you are looking at maybe a 50 degree increase in temperature F which is 30 K i.e. at most a 10% increase in pressure. That's likely not enough to make your tire pop. So no, don't bother. Edited by datlas 2012-09-16 12:37 PM |
2012-09-16 12:37 PM in reply to: #4413268 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride Heat wont make your tires explode. My source? 20+ years cycling in Texas leaving fully inflated tires in cars, trunks of cars, pickups etc....never had one "pop". |
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2012-09-16 12:52 PM in reply to: #4413450 |
Member 796 Malvern, PA | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride Av8rTx - 2012-09-16 12:37 PM Heat wont make your tires asplode. My source? 20+ years cycling in Texas leaving fully inflated tires in cars, trunks of cars, pickups etc....never had one "pop". Correct and fixed. |
2012-09-16 1:09 PM in reply to: #4413450 |
Extreme Veteran 1136 | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride Av8rTx - 2012-09-16 12:37 PM Heat wont make your tires explode. My source? 20+ years cycling in Texas leaving fully inflated tires in cars, trunks of cars, pickups etc....never had one "pop". I thought the same thing. However, when I was picking up my bike and gear after my last race everything had been sitting under the sun for a couple hours. It was at least 100 degrees and a cloudless sky. Another racer who had just picked up his bike was wheeling it away and I heard/saw the tire give out. There was a loud pop/whoosh sound. Could be that the tread or sidewall was weakened already and sitting in the sun was enough to put it over the edge. |
2012-09-16 1:52 PM in reply to: #4413472 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride wbattaile - 2012-09-16 1:09 PM Av8rTx - 2012-09-16 12:37 PM Heat wont make your tires explode. My source? 20+ years cycling in Texas leaving fully inflated tires in cars, trunks of cars, pickups etc....never had one "pop". I thought the same thing. However, when I was picking up my bike and gear after my last race everything had been sitting under the sun for a couple hours. It was at least 100 degrees and a cloudless sky. Another racer who had just picked up his bike was wheeling it away and I heard/saw the tire give out. There was a loud pop/whoosh sound. Could be that the tread or sidewall was weakened already and sitting in the sun was enough to put it over the edge. Could have been a pinch flat or some other issue too. |
2012-09-16 2:36 PM in reply to: #4413268 |
Extreme Veteran 1136 | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride I'm sure it could have been a number of causes, but I doubt it was a pinch flat... He was walking his bike. |
2012-09-16 3:12 PM in reply to: #4413549 |
Veteran 867 Vicksburg | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride wbattaile - 2012-09-16 2:36 PM I'm sure it could have been a number of causes, but I doubt it was a pinch flat... He was walking his bike. Yep that happened to my bike sitting in transition at last years Heatwave Triathlon. I did the relay portion and after my runner took off about 5 minutes later my tube popped. I couldn't believe it until I heard another one pop on the other end of transition. It got to 102 that day. |
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2012-09-16 3:21 PM in reply to: #4413579 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride peewee - 2012-09-16 3:12 PM wbattaile - 2012-09-16 2:36 PM I'm sure it could have been a number of causes, but I doubt it was a pinch flat... He was walking his bike. Yep that happened to my bike sitting in transition at last years Heatwave Triathlon. I did the relay portion and after my runner took off about 5 minutes later my tube popped. I couldn't believe it until I heard another one pop on the other end of transition. It got to 102 that day. All I know is that we just finished a summer with frequent highs in the 100-110 range, my bike in the cab of my pickup-much hotter all day and no flats, nor anyone I know of. Someone on this board has quoted pascal's law or some such thing that is beyond me, that explains why the heat isn't causing the flats |
2012-09-16 3:24 PM in reply to: #4413268 |
Extreme Veteran 556 | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride I've never done it, and I've left my bike in very hot places, including a long 3 day weekend in the house when I was out of town and forgot to leave the central air running. The tires didn't inflate themselves. They actually got flatter. |
2012-09-16 8:07 PM in reply to: #4413586 |
New user 327 | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride Av8rTx - 2012-09-16 1:21 PM peewee - 2012-09-16 3:12 PM wbattaile - 2012-09-16 2:36 PM I'm sure it could have been a number of causes, but I doubt it was a pinch flat... He was walking his bike. Yep that happened to my bike sitting in transition at last years Heatwave Triathlon. I did the relay portion and after my runner took off about 5 minutes later my tube popped. I couldn't believe it until I heard another one pop on the other end of transition. It got to 102 that day. All I know is that we just finished a summer with frequent highs in the 100-110 range, my bike in the cab of my pickup-much hotter all day and no flats, nor anyone I know of. Someone on this board has quoted pascal's law or some such thing that is beyond me, that explains why the heat isn't causing the flats I live in Vegas and it regularly gets over 110F and 140F in my car. All my bikes are stored in the garage where it is often over 95F. I never deflate my tires and I've never had a tire blow from the heat. |
2012-09-16 8:19 PM in reply to: #4413268 |
Master 1484 Sedona, AZ | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride If your tire pops in the car due to heat, you just saved yourself a flat on the road. The tire was weak somewhere and was about to go. |
2012-09-16 8:41 PM in reply to: #4413807 |
Extreme Veteran 1136 | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride bufordt - 2012-09-16 8:07 PM Av8rTx - 2012-09-16 1:21 PM I live in Vegas and it regularly gets over 110F and 140F in my car. All my bikes are stored in the garage where it is often over 95F. I never deflate my tires and I've never had a tire blow from the heat.peewee - 2012-09-16 3:12 PM wbattaile - 2012-09-16 2:36 PM I'm sure it could have been a number of causes, but I doubt it was a pinch flat... He was walking his bike. Yep that happened to my bike sitting in transition at last years Heatwave Triathlon. I did the relay portion and after my runner took off about 5 minutes later my tube popped. I couldn't believe it until I heard another one pop on the other end of transition. It got to 102 that day. All I know is that we just finished a summer with frequent highs in the 100-110 range, my bike in the cab of my pickup-much hotter all day and no flats, nor anyone I know of. Someone on this board has quoted pascal's law or some such thing that is beyond me, that explains why the heat isn't causing the flats I was in Vegas when I saw this happen. Like I said before, I don't think a perfectly good tire will just blow out due to a little heat. Maybe the sidewall got cut, or something similar during the race. Combine that with the fact that everyone aired up their tires at 5:30am when it was probably 70 degrees outside, and the bikes sat on blacktop at T2 for a couple hours in 100 degree heat (and I imagine black tires on blacktop under a cloudless sky will be a little hotter than the surrounding air temperature.) |
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2012-09-16 9:06 PM in reply to: #4413268 |
Veteran 305 Springfield/Branson | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride It's not that your tire will pop in the heat. It's more durability of the tube. Keeping high pressure 24/7 in the tube will eventually weaken the tube at a certain spot at some point. Letting a little pressure off should extend the usabilty of that tube. |
2012-09-17 9:10 AM in reply to: #4413268 |
Veteran 1384 Panama City, FL | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride I've read that for races where you have to drop your bike off in transition the day before a race, and they'll be sitting all day in sun, you want to decrease air for this same reason- heat could cause the tire to explode if it's full. |
2012-09-17 9:21 AM in reply to: #4413449 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride datlas - 2012-09-16 1:36 PM Not necessary. Even in a hot car, I think if PV=nRT, you are looking at maybe a 50 degree increase in temperature F which is 30 K i.e. at most a 10% increase in pressure. That's likely not enough to make your tire pop. So no, don't bother. Yep we (I) have gone thru this before. If the small increase in pressure makes your tire pop, it was going to pop anyway. 0F = 255Kelvin 100F = 311 K So an increase of 13.9%. So a 100psi tires will now be 113.9psi. And that's a swing of 100 degrees. Been cycling in FL my entire life. Have never deflated my tires after a ride. Edited by TriRSquared 2012-09-17 9:30 AM |
2012-09-17 9:26 AM in reply to: #4413853 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride mroger82 - 2012-09-16 10:06 PM It's not that your tire will pop in the heat. It's more durability of the tube. Keeping high pressure 24/7 in the tube will eventually weaken the tube at a certain spot at some point. Letting a little pressure off should extend the usabilty of that tube. This does not make sense either. Deflating and re-inflating the tube is going to put it under more fatigue stress than maintaining it at a constant pressure. |
2012-09-17 12:24 PM in reply to: #4413819 |
Subject: RE: Deflating Tires Post Ride MonkeyClaw - 2012-09-16 6:19 PM If your tire pops in the car due to heat, you just saved yourself a flat on the road. The tire was weak somewhere and was about to go. Exactly! I live in the desert and it's not unusual for me to put 120#'s in my tires when it's in the 70's before I leave and well above 100 when I'm out riding on black asphalt roads. I've also left my bike in the car in extreme heat and have not had one pop yet. The extreme heat will over time take a toll on rubber and similar synthetics over time. It won't cause a properly inflated tire/tube to explode with a 50 degree temperature increase. What I think is even worse is leaving something exposed to the direct sunlight out here. |
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