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2006-06-20 3:34 PM
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Subject: RE: U.S. Turns On Missile Defense Shield
Marvarnett - 2006-06-20 3:18 PM

Just to play Devil's Advocate, if we do happen to shoot it down (% says we can't), and it's still in N. Korean territory, haven't WE just performed an Act of War against a Sovereign Nation?

If it's in International waters, it's fair game.  But if it's not...

As a former student of international politics, I would like to point out the error in your thinking.  If our belief is that their launch of this missile would lead to their development of missiles that could be launched in such a way at targets that our of interest to us, then this is merely an act of self-defense, not an act of war.  Second, we no longer recognize other countries as 'sovereign nations'.  That term is out of date.  Other countries are now considered either 'hostiles' or 'not yet hostiles' (unless they are England in which case we recognize them as 'useful'. 

Mr. Rove?  Mr. Rumsfield?  I'm ready for my interview.



2006-06-20 3:56 PM
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marmadaddy - 2006-06-20 4:28 PM

It's a long range missile anyway. It would supposedly be into international airspace pretty quickly.

If it's in international waters, that would save the trouble of using the defense system.



From time of launch detection, to acquiring the target and tracking it, to release of our own weapon system, yes, I would say that the missile would be in internation airspace, or at the very least outside of NK's airspace. Besides, we would track it for a period to determine it's projected target area first.

Considering that depending on the set-up of the missile, it could potentially hit targets as far inland as Arizona, I don't think that this is a minor concern.
2006-06-20 5:24 PM
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Subject: RE: U.S. Turns On Missile Defense Shield
marmadaddy - 2006-06-20 12:28 PM

It's a long range missile anyway. It would supposedly be into international airspace pretty quickly.

If it's in international waters, that would save the trouble of using the defense system. 

Airspace?  Try exo-atmospheric.  Which is where the defense system intercepts.

2006-06-20 5:25 PM
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PirateGirl - 2006-06-20 3:24 PM
marmadaddy - 2006-06-20 12:28 PM

It's a long range missile anyway. It would supposedly be into international airspace pretty quickly.

If it's in international waters, that would save the trouble of using the defense system. 

Airspace?  Try exo-atmospheric.  Which is where the defense system intercepts.

I love it when she talks dirty

2006-06-20 5:32 PM
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I figured the missile defense shield was on because I felt a little faster on my bike today.

As a graduate of Marine Corps political science studies I say Screw 'em. Shoot the thing out of the sky and ...no why not let some hotshot B-1 pilot (I've got one in mind) just do a fly by and the whole dang complex goes up. No biggee they need more cabbage fields anyway.

Will the next Korean war be called Part Deux?.....jus sayin'.

2006-06-20 5:33 PM
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trigods - 2006-06-20 12:13 PM they have tested the thing 8 times already and so far it has a 50/50% success rate...
Nice... someone better blow on the dice if Kim launches one and hope we get the good 50% chance

Obviously you're not an engineer.  The stuff you use everyday has been tested and failed many times before getting final approval to where you could buy it and get your hands on it.  That's the whole point of testing...try something out, change it, try it again, tweak it.



2006-06-20 5:34 PM
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ChrisM - 2006-06-20 2:25 PM

I love it when she talks dirty

And I'm censoring myself.  A lot. 

2006-06-20 5:38 PM
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gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 6:32 PM

Will the next Korean war be called Part Deux?.....jus sayin'.

I'm thinking Part Deuxty.  Especially if Elaine's 50% involved.  Back to your regularly scheduled Bushwhackin'. 

2006-06-20 5:40 PM
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gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 4:32 PM

why not let some hotshot B-1 pilot (I've got one in mind) just do a fly by and the whole dang complex goes up. No biggee they need more cabbage fields anyway.

Where's Maverick when we need him? 

2006-06-20 5:41 PM
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rkreuser - 2006-06-20 6:38 PM
gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 6:32 PM

Will the next Korean war be called Part Deux?.....jus sayin'.

I'm thinking Part Deuxty.  Especially if Elaine's 50% involved.  Back to your regularly scheduled Bushwhackin'. 

lol you're on it Rick.
2006-06-20 5:41 PM
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Drewwhite - 2006-06-20 2:40 PM

Where's Maverick when we need him? 

Jumping on Oprah's couch.



2006-06-20 5:44 PM
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Drewwhite - 2006-06-20 6:40 PM
gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 4:32 PM

why not let some hotshot B-1 pilot (I've got one in mind) just do a fly by and the whole dang complex goes up. No biggee they need more cabbage fields anyway.

Where's Maverick when we need him? 

I'm thinkin' our own Jen who if I could ever recruit her then her, stake, me ,and Bodycheck would be the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Just plannin' for the future.
2006-06-20 5:46 PM
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Subject: RE: U.S. Turns On Missile Defense Shield
gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 4:44 PM
Drewwhite - 2006-06-20 6:40 PM
gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 4:32 PM

why not let some hotshot B-1 pilot (I've got one in mind) just do a fly by and the whole dang complex goes up. No biggee they need more cabbage fields anyway.

Where's Maverick when we need him?

I'm thinkin' our own Jen who if I could ever recruit her then her, stake, me ,and Bodycheck would be the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Just plannin' for the future.

On question, is stake allowed to take his bike with him?  Because if not, I'm willing to offer my services as a bike babysitter 

2006-06-20 7:05 PM
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Isn't this what the DEW line was for?

An ill wind comes arising
Across the cities of the plain
There's no swimming in the heavy water
No singing in the acid rain
Red alert
Red alert

It's so hard to stay together
Passing through revolving doors
We need someone to talk to
And someone to sweep the floors
Incomplete
Incomplete

The world weighs on my shoulders
But what am I to do?
You sometimes drive me crazy
But I worry about you

I know it makes no difference
To what you're going through
But I see the tip of the iceberg
And I worry about you...

Cruising under your radar
Watching from satellites
Take a page from the red book
Keep them in your sights
Red alert
Red alert

Left and rights of passage
Black and whites of youth
Who can face the knowledge
That the truth is not the truth?
Obsolete
Absolute

The world weighs on my shoulders
But what am I to do?
You sometimes drive me crazy
But I worry about you

I know it makes no difference
To what you're going through
But I see the tip of the iceberg
And I worry about you

The world weighs on my shoulders
But what am I to do?
You sometimes drive me crazy
But I worry about you

I know it makes no difference
To what you're going through
But I see the tip of the iceberg
And I worry about you

Absalom
Absalom
Absalom


2006-06-20 7:49 PM
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gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 6:32 PM

No biggee they need more cabbage fields anyway.

<snirk> 

2006-06-20 7:50 PM
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Drewwhite - 2006-06-20 6:46 PM

On question, is stake allowed to take his bike with him? Because if not, I'm willing to offer my services as a bike babysitter

I think stake's got plans for his bike this weekend... 



2006-06-20 9:37 PM
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run4yrlif - 2006-06-20 6:50 PM
Drewwhite - 2006-06-20 6:46 PM

On question, is stake allowed to take his bike with him? Because if not, I'm willing to offer my services as a bike babysitter

I think stake's got plans for his bike this weekend...

LOL, yeah.  I'm actually headed out there to visit the inlaws for the weekend.  I'm going to catch the start of IMCDA; I'm very excited for it.

2006-06-20 9:57 PM
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Maybe I'm showing my age, but my first thought when reading this article was:

Skynet is now online

I bet he launches on August 29th



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2006-06-21 6:45 AM
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Drewwhite - 2006-06-20 5:46 PM
gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 4:44 PM
Drewwhite - 2006-06-20 6:40 PM
gullahcracker - 2006-06-20 4:32 PM

why not let some hotshot B-1 pilot (I've got one in mind) just do a fly by and the whole dang complex goes up. No biggee they need more cabbage fields anyway.

Where's Maverick when we need him?

I'm thinkin' our own Jen who if I could ever recruit her then her, stake, me ,and Bodycheck would be the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Just plannin' for the future.

On question, is stake allowed to take his bike with him?  Because if not, I'm willing to offer my services as a bike babysitter 

My first thought when I read this post was, I wonder how long it will be before someone asks:   "Is Stake allowed to take his Chippy with him?  Because if not...."

Where's trolltocatchme when a comment from him might actually be funny?

 

2006-06-21 6:54 AM
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hangloose - 2006-06-21 7:45 AM

Where's trolltocatchme when a comment from him might actually be funny?

I think he's over at TNO showing off his double-digit IQ.

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