Flo wheels remind me of Apple

1.  apple products always garnered a premium price over their competitors.  FLO is just the opposite.

2.  yeah- lot's of questions and lots of participation from the FLO guys in answering them.  I've read a lot of the comments here and over on slowtwitch- the FLO wheels are getting nothing but outstanding reviews.  People seem to love them.  the only 'problem' is "when is my shipment coming?"

they appear to be an excellent wheel.  Performance likely on par with Zipp/Hed.   A little heavier as they are not full carbon but an aluminum wheel with a carbon fairing, but way way way cheaper. 

not getting the apple comparison at all. 

x2  Not remotely close to an Apple product.

I agree, but you have to go back to the days when Apple did their own engineering, were reliable, and far more inexpensive than any comparably performing competition.... oh, wait.  Those days never existed.

Other than that, I totally agree. Just like Apple; except FLO's are not gloss white.

Wasn't talking about price at all. It was more that Apple has a certain brand (it just works, is cool, sleek etc). But then the store is filled with people trying to get their awesome "it just works" products to actually work. So somehow they maintain this aura of not having any issues when they actually do have issues. To me, if something truly works there should be no issues. Anyway, with Flo, my point was just that there has been years of buzz around when they will be delivered, whether they will stand up to the promise, etc. And now they are here and there is still all this buzz, but it has just shifted to other questions. And there are loads of questions. You may not see the similarities but I do. Shouldn't this be dead simple? I ordered my wheels and got them. I put them on my bike and rode them? Not trying to have a discussion as to whether Flo wheels are good. Or whether Apple is good. Just that they have been very effective in getting a certain brand across. I have deep dish carbon wheels that are waaaay cheaper than Zipps and cheaper than Flo wheels. I haven't had any issues. No questions. Just put them on the bike and ride.

Because so many people have objectively tested them side-by-side? Amazing how many people say this but they have no actual data! Its not in anyone's best interest to conduct the tests. And even if one manufacturer does the tests, do you believe the data? Maybe Flo has released data? Or maybe some BTers have ridden their ZIPPs and their FLOs in identical conditions using a crank-based powermeter to check speed at the same power output? And then duplicated that many times to get reliable data? I haven't seen it. Yet the perception remains. I have no issue with it...just think it is genious on their part. Just like Apple. I have to go fix my wifes Mac now. Oh wait, I can have a genious do it for me in the store. :-)

Just out of curiosity, what issues are people having with FLO's? From someone interested in purchasing a set I haven't seen any complaints other than shipping and lack of inventory (which I'd expect with a newer company) Once you have a set isn't it as easy as put them on and ride?

Also what carbons do you have that were cheaper than FLO's?

After seeing tons of thread, I decided to look at their website.  I like...

BUT, I had a question (and emailed them).  Is there a weigh limit for them?  Clydesdale version?  I figure with Alu rims, they can hold up a little better to heavy riders.

I guess I will see what they say.

The only threads I've seen are...

When will my wheels arrive?
What type of tires are best for my wheels?
Should I ride my FLO wheels for IMAZ?
What type of rim tape should I get?
What type of tire pressure should I run?

I don't see the comparison to Apple...

For each wheel they have a standard and a Clydesdale version.  Also, they have a stainless bearing and a ceramic bearing option ($100 more, but also buys a charity bike for a kid).

The clyde wheels say 242lbs max rider weight. They've gotten back to me within hours on facebook

The owner is in the other BT thread at this very moment and answered.  Same with the disk option as well I suppose.

Given the CFD that went into them, the similarity in profile with the Hed JetC2s and Zip4040/808FCs, the testing that they did...close enough.

 I've never touched one myself, but I read a lot.  Everyone who got them seems to really love'm.  I don't have a horse in this race, nor can I point to an independent comparative aero test, but the flo guys have done their own and show it on their web site.  If I've learned anything- is that doing these tests is very sensitive to very small changes.  A different tire could easily work much better with one wheel than another, reversing which one is the 'faster' wheel.  My educated guess is that the difference in price is far greater than the difference in performance.

I have Planet X's which are cheaper than Flo's (but someone will point out the advantages of Flo's, but thats not the point here). I sorta followed the "when will FLOs be ready" threads for months and months and months. Lots of people were very interested, and I have no issue at all with that. But the amount of excitement that was out there for a product that wasnt being shipped sounds a lot like an iPhone. Then I popped onto the main forum and saw a lot of Flo-related Q&A threads (not issues, just questions) which made me think of Apple and how much excitement and talk they generate. Very similar here. And that is fine- people like to talk about their new toys.

Yes, exactly. I was not knocking Flo. Just commenting that they remind me of Apple...who owns most of the country now and are marketing geniouses. People dont mind that there are some issues with Apple products. They're just happy to have em (me included). Same with Flo. They generated and maintained interest for ages...long before their product was available. I'm not saying thats bad. It is very clever.

Most all these questions for FLO wheels is due to the fact that a much higher percentage of people purchasing FLO's are buying their first set of aero wheels.

Most questions are basic for any wheel (what tires, what tubes, what valve extenders, what's a RVC, how do you put on a cassette, why do they sound like that, when should I ride them, how much, how often).  All these questions have nothing to do with FLO, but are just due to newbs putting on new wheels.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I have a set of FLO 60/90's and they are freaking awesome!  But I'm just like everyone else in that this is my first set of aero wheels so I don't have anything to compare them to.  So take my endorsement for what it is.  

I would have to say that the tone of your post here sounds about 180 degrees from you OP.

In what Apple store did you literally see several hundred people with defective problems to be solved?

As a matter of fact I have heard of a figure of speech.   I just thought it was odd how the tone of the two posts seem to differ.