Colorado - Legal Marajuna (Page 2)

OHHH.  Colfax!  I don't got down Colfax unless I'm going to Pete's Kitchen...  I used to live on Capital Hill and when I visit, it's mostly downtown/16th street.  They probably keep those areas pretty clear.  But Colfax makes sense.

I had a friend who had is card and offered to get me some.  But of COURSE I would never do such a thing...

My question is will the Federal Government now follow suit and start to let up on MJ.  Lets face it MJ is a cash cow. This country needs cash. Time to milk the cow?  I supose the bigger question is legal MJ on a national level a bigger cash cow to the entire country versus illegal MJ to law enforcement, specifically  the DEA.  

Could legal MJ be a stimulus meal ticket that helps the economy out of the hole and taxes collected from the sale of MJ be used to fund programs (Blues)  or pay off debt(Reds).  I recall seeing a single California dispensary paying several million a year in taxes and fees to the state of California. 

OR is this country still way to uptight to even considering legalizing MJ on a National scale.

No, unshwing.... because all the legislature will do now is cut education funding $40 million and use it where ever they want.

That shell game has been going the very first time someone proposed to get something by giving somewhere else. I can garantee you spending on education will not increase by $40 million.

You make a great point. I heard you can have up to one ounce or 6 plants. Now I don't know how hard it is to grow and cure MJ, but if it isn't rocket science I imagine there will be plenty of supply to meet any demand. If I was a weekend toker I would rather grow my own than pay high prices, so either people will grow their own or the price will drop a decent amount I would bet.

Unless they change it to more of a state liquor dispensary type system where you can't grow it and you can only buy it from the state. Otherwise I don't see a huge tax benefit as you say. 

... and more complicity and promotion of the shell game. Go ahead and tax anyone you want for what ever reason you want just as long as it isn't me.

Why should MJ be taxed any more than shoe laces? As far as a product, it will be taxed on sales and illegal money becomes legal sales and enters the tax stream. But taxing MJ is not a cash cow and it should not be taxed any different than any other product for sale.

we already have lots of classes of goods for sale that is taxed at different rates.  and depending on the states as well.  cigarettes and alcohol are taxed differently than orange juice.  in many states clothes and food have lower taxes than electronics, for example.  is that wrong as well?

of course that probably means more would-be criminals on the government dole.

Yes.

Taxes should be about raising money to pay for government, not for social policy.

Things should be taxed to pay for their cost. MJ should be taxed to pay for its regulation same as alcohol. what most talk about are Sin taxes and that MJ should just be taxed 1000% to pay for everyone's budget short falls. I do not agree with that, nor do I agree with sin taxes.

If you have a budget short fall, then cut spending, or raise taxes on everyone.

It is a weed. It will grow anywhere. If pot heads can grow it, anyone can. It isn't rocket science.

Interesting note on that.

WA state legalized possession of 1 oz for adults 21+ and use of it by the same.  But growing your own is still illegal.  The next part of our law that goes into effect next year will create state controlled stores which sell marijuana, similar to our previous liquor stores.

They very carefully crafted this new law to turn this into a legitimate source of revenue.

It is not a weed it is the same type of plant as is used to make ropes.

I has in the past been used as a food source.  The seeds do not contain THC so they have been used as grains for bread and meal.

It has been around for a very very long time and used both medicinally and as food by a number of different cultures. It has been found in burial sites as old as 3k yo. So yeah it's hard to kill. 

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That is the best reason for legalization.  Our expenses for the "war on drugs" are easily paid for with the proceeds of the assets we sieze.  Federal Law mandates that the money siezed by law enforcement, from illegal drug operations, can ONLY be used by law enforcement agencies to pay OT, buy equipment, etc.  Years ago I worked undercover for a drug task force in a large metropolitan city......the money we siezed financed the entire flight operations division....including the purchase of 2 helicopters and one fixed wing aircraft. 

The drug business, and the "war on drugs", is about money on both sides of the law......and believe me when I tell you that neither side wants it legalized.  When that happens, the big money is gone.

That's fine.....but once more states follow through the price HAS to drop, and drop substantially.  If the State store  props up the price for revenue purposes then you will still have a large illegal trade. 

The provision in your law to prohibit growing for personal use will fall......watch and see.

A "weed" is any undesirable/unwanted plant in a given location. Beautiful bermuda grass may be desirable in a lawn, but in a rock garden its a weed.   

I knew my one class towards a range and wildlife management degree would come in useful some day ... albeit 20+ years after the fact 

I think the most interesting aspect will be the Feds reaction to this.

That's right......that's all that matters here.  In California, they ignored the selling in the dispensories to start with, but went after the profits of the businesses.....they still do to a large degree, but much less so with Obama in office.  I think the Feds will leave it alone, as a sort of test case, to see where the "water" goes as far a revenue, profit, etc.  They will still want part of the money, but they may wait to see what the best avenue for that is.

Evgerything about this is, and always has been, money driven.

Of course now Washington state needs to come up with some tough immigration policy to prevent those sneaky Canadians from pouring over the border to get our legal weed.

That's only true to a degree. Yeah sure, anyone can throw some seeds into a pot or a field and grow a plant. But if you want The Kill, that ain't gonna cut it. To do it right, there is some science involved. Things like hydroponics, lighting, the right fertilizers, culling the male plants, pruning, harvest timing, etc. Or so I've heard

I liken it to home brewing. Sure, I could brew my own beer, but why bother?

You're welcome.

No... the seed is 80% of what you get. The other 20% is up to you. It isn't some mystical voo doo rocket science. It is a simple, hardy, pest resistant plant that can grow in just about any environment. And that is straight from Rosenthal. Stoner mythology isn't reality.