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2013-04-17 9:56 AM

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What if your IM run split is also a BQ?  Would the BAA accept this?  I think the answer is no, but can't find that specifically on their website.  Anyone know or have experience with this?



2013-04-17 10:00 AM
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What if your IM run split is also a BQ?  Would the BAA accept this?  I think the answer is no, but can't find that specifically on their website.  Anyone know or have experience with this?

I'd have to do some digging. But I thought that Kona and Louisville were USATF certified and would be accepted by the BAA. As long as the course is USATF certified then you can use it.

2013-04-17 10:07 AM
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I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that running a BQ marathon during your IM makes you BA.
2013-04-17 10:25 AM
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switch - 2013-04-17 11:07 AM I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that running a BQ marathon during your IM makes you BA.

+1 on that.

2013-04-17 11:09 AM
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I believe only Kona is a BQ.  I have a friend that ran a 3:16 run split at IMWI.  She is around 50 and her BQ time is 3:55, I believe. They would not her in this year.  She set the age group record and is going to Kona and hoping to BQ and run it next year.
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Six13 - 2013-04-17 11:09 AM I believe only Kona is a BQ.  I have a friend that ran a 3:16 run split at IMWI.  She is around 50 and her BQ time is 3:55, I believe. They would not her in this year.  She set the age group record and is going to Kona and hoping to BQ and run it next year.

 

Completely BA. 

That is seriously impressive.  How long has she been racing?



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What if your IM run split is also a BQ?  Would the BAA accept this?  I think the answer is no, but can't find that specifically on their website.  Anyone know or have experience with this?

I'd have to do some digging. But I thought that Kona and Louisville were USATF certified and would be accepted by the BAA. As long as the course is USATF certified then you can use it.

 

They are the only IM  certified courses, unless there have been updates in the last few months (I have not looked at USATF site)

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Six13 - 2013-04-17 11:09 AM I believe only Kona is a BQ.  I have a friend that ran a 3:16 run split at IMWI.  She is around 50 and her BQ time is 3:55, I believe. They would not her in this year.  She set the age group record and is going to Kona and hoping to BQ and run it next year.

 

Completely BA. 

That is seriously impressive.  How long has she been racing?

She only started doing tris 5 years ago too.  She was always a competitive runner.  She's a total stud and would turn pro if she was younger.  Her swim and bike were not even that good at IMWI, but her run was 4th fastest woman overall.  Only got beat by 3 pros. 

 

 

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holy moses, the people here never fail to impress me.

 

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Six13 - 2013-04-17 11:09 AM I believe only Kona is a BQ.  I have a friend that ran a 3:16 run split at IMWI.  She is around 50 and her BQ time is 3:55, I believe. They would not her in this year.  She set the age group record and is going to Kona and hoping to BQ and run it next year.

 

Completely BA. 

That is seriously impressive.  How long has she been racing?

She only started doing tris 5 years ago too.  She was always a competitive runner.  She's a total stud and would turn pro if she was younger.  Her swim and bike were not even that good at IMWI, but her run was 4th fastest woman overall.  Only got beat by 3 pros. 

 

That is C-R-A-Z-Y fast.  So cool.

Would she mind if you told us her name?  It would be fun to watch for her. 

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Six13 - 2013-04-17 11:09 AM I believe only Kona is a BQ.  I have a friend that ran a 3:16 run split at IMWI.  She is around 50 and her BQ time is 3:55, I believe. They would not her in this year.  She set the age group record and is going to Kona and hoping to BQ and run it next year.

 

Completely BA. 

That is seriously impressive.  How long has she been racing?

She only started doing tris 5 years ago too.  She was always a competitive runner.  She's a total stud and would turn pro if she was younger.  Her swim and bike were not even that good at IMWI, but her run was 4th fastest woman overall.  Only got beat by 3 pros. 

 

That is C-R-A-Z-Y fast.  So cool.

Would she mind if you told us her name?  It would be fun to watch for her. 

 

Sue Pierson.  She has gotten alot faster in the water too, so Kona should be good if she stays healthy.  She's been there before too, so she knows what to expect.



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Six13 - 2013-04-17 12:09 PM I believe only Kona is a BQ.  I have a friend that ran a 3:16 run split at IMWI.  She is around 50 and her BQ time is 3:55, I believe. They would not her in this year.  She set the age group record and is going to Kona and hoping to BQ and run it next year.

WOW. 3:15 run split? That's seriously fast. I wonder what her stand alone marathon time is/ will be.

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Agree you'd be a total BA if you BQ'd your run split of an IM. I'm hoping to go sub 3:05 next year to qualify and hope to go sub 4 on my run at IMFL
2013-04-17 9:32 PM
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rjrankin83 - 2013-04-17 8:50 PMAgree you'd be a total BA if you BQ'd your run split of an IM. I'm hoping to go sub 3:05 next year to qualify and hope to go sub 4 on my run at IMFL
If you can get to a 3:05 open time, your IM run should be well under 4:00. If properly trained for IM your ru. Should be in the 3:35-3:40 range (with proper bike pacing, which most people don't do!). On the Boston qualifying issue, my coach has qualified for Boston at Kona the last few years (3rd and 5th in his AG at Kona the past two years).

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2013-04-18 6:46 AM
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Holy Cow, now I am really depressed. I am just worried about a BQ time in a stand alone marathon, I just can't fathom doing it in an IM. For that matter, can't fathom doing an IM, and I've done a HIM. I did BQ 23 years ago but... Bound and determined though to do it. Was already going for the BQ this year, but after the turn of events this week, even more determined than ever. My hats off to those of you who are awesome enough to do this in an IM!
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I told my wife the other day I would like to run a marathon after my IMWI race this year in hopes of qualifying for Boston next year.  She doesn't like the idea at all and wonders why I would want to go there and race.  I told her my reasons why and that ever since taking up running I thought it would be cool to go there and run.  She said she would not come and watch and neither would our son.  I know she has her reasons and what not but I still am thinking about running one in early November in hopes of qualifying still and deciding weather or not to go and run.

 

BTW thats nuts a 50 yo woman ran a 3:16 marathon at IMWI.  What was her bike and swim times curious?



2013-04-18 7:35 AM
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No. Most aren't USATF certified courses.
2013-04-18 7:43 AM
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FWIW, Boston was full and closed right after Chicago last year (early Octoberish).  If you BQ in November, you'll most likely be running in 2015.

You should run it.  It's a great experience. 

Your wife may come around, and if she doesn't, that's OK too :)

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Bevie - 2013-04-18 7:29 AM

I told my wife the other day I would like to run a marathon after my IMWI race this year in hopes of qualifying for Boston next year.  She doesn't like the idea at all and wonders why I would want to go there and race.  I told her my reasons why and that ever since taking up running I thought it would be cool to go there and run.  She said she would not come and watch and neither would our son.  I know she has her reasons and what not but I still am thinking about running one in early November in hopes of qualifying still and deciding weather or not to go and run.

 

BTW thats nuts a 50 yo woman ran a 3:16 marathon at IMWI.  What was her bike and swim times curious?

I was curious too, so I had to be nosey and look it up:

Swim:  1:16:08

Bike:  5:48:32

Not too shabby!



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FWIW, Boston was full and closed right after Chicago last year (early Octoberish).  If you BQ in November, you'll most likely be running in 2015.

You should run it.  It's a great experience. 

Your wife may come around, and if she doesn't, that's OK too

Boston entry will open in September 2013 for 2014 and as stated above and will close in about 2-3 weeks with their new registration policy. I see the 2014 race being over the top popular and it closing a lot earlier. I would feel safe wagering it will sell out in less than a week.

One item to be careful of. Your BQ time is only good for 18 months. So if you are doing a late season race December 21st is going to be your cut off for your time to be good for the 2015 marathon.

On a similarly related topic. There was a page on a site (I think it was runnersworld) that said on average you needed to be at least 6:40 faster than your qualifying time in order to secure a guaranteed entry. This puts me at at least a 3:04 and to be honest, unless I am allowed roller blades that is not going to happen.

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switch - 2013-04-17 11:07 AM I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that running a BQ marathon during your IM makes you BA.

+1 on that.

x3.....YOu fast people make me sick!



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FWIW, Boston was full and closed right after Chicago last year (early Octoberish).  If you BQ in November, you'll most likely be running in 2015.

You should run it.  It's a great experience. 

Your wife may come around, and if she doesn't, that's OK too

Boston entry will open in September 2013 for 2014 and as stated above and will close in about 2-3 weeks with their new registration policy. I see the 2014 race being over the top popular and it closing a lot earlier. I would feel safe wagering it will sell out in less than a week.

One item to be careful of. Your BQ time is only good for 18 months. So if you are doing a late season race December 21st is going to be your cut off for your time to be good for the 2015 marathon.

On a similarly related topic. There was a page on a site (I think it was runnersworld) that said on average you needed to be at least 6:40 faster than your qualifying time in order to secure a guaranteed entry. This puts me at at least a 3:04 and to be honest, unless I am allowed roller blades that is not going to happen.

Not so sure, I was a little over 5 minutes faster and got my unofficial acceptance two days later. I know pretty much everyone who BQ'd for 2012 got it and ran. Now, I think that next year there will be a lot more people trying to BQ and run Boston. Certainly that's the sentiment right now. Marathoners are pretty hard to intimidate.

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switch - 2013-04-18 7:43 AM

FWIW, Boston was full and closed right after Chicago last year (early Octoberish).  If you BQ in November, you'll most likely be running in 2015.

You should run it.  It's a great experience. 

Your wife may come around, and if she doesn't, that's OK too

Boston entry will open in September 2013 for 2014 and as stated above and will close in about 2-3 weeks with their new registration policy. I see the 2014 race being over the top popular and it closing a lot earlier. I would feel safe wagering it will sell out in less than a week.

One item to be careful of. Your BQ time is only good for 18 months. So if you are doing a late season race December 21st is going to be your cut off for your time to be good for the 2015 marathon.

On a similarly related topic. There was a page on a site (I think it was runnersworld) that said on average you needed to be at least 6:40 faster than your qualifying time in order to secure a guaranteed entry. This puts me at at least a 3:04 and to be honest, unless I am allowed roller blades that is not going to happen.

Phooey, I was going to do the Route 66 Marathon in November, but from what you say that would be too late to get into 2014. I am a little confused though about your statement about December 21st being the cut off for 2015. If it is 18 months, wouldn't that be more like October 21st? Maybe I am just missreading what you said.

We have a new Marathon starting down here (Key West) in October, but that too seems to be too late for 2014 Boston. It isn't a certified course yet either from what I can tell. Boston 2014 is not only important to me because of recent events, but I was already planning it because it will be right after I turn 60. Planning on doing it up big next years with Tri's and the Marathon, so now I guess maybe I need to find an earlier marathon that might get me BQ'd for 2014. Any ideas?

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Sorry... Take 4/21/15 and subtract 18 months. That will be the time frame that you need to qualify in.
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There was a page on a site (I think it was runnersworld) that said on average you needed to be at least 6:40 faster than your qualifying time in order to secure a guaranteed entry. This puts me at at least a 3:04 and to be honest, unless I am allowed roller blades that is not going to happen.

 

This happened in 2011 for registering for the 2012 race. It wasn't 6 minutes, but 1:XX.

In 2012 (to register for the 2013 race,) they dropped the qualifying standards 5 minutes for everybody and now the race didn't immediately sell out. (As mentioned above, it was open for several weeks till after Chicago and Portland). Since it was not a mad dash to register, they honored a "first come-first served" so anyone who had any qualifying time that registered before sell out was in.

For next year (registering this September) expect there to be more interest, and so it will likely sell out a bit faster. If 2011 repeats itself, they may line everyone up who registered in the first XXhours and only take the fastest up to race capacity. I really doubt that will happen unless massive numbers of people who were not able to finish this year receives deferrals. Also, note that 2012 was super hot and so there were hundreds of deferrals and yet registration stayed open a long time.

My bet: any BQ time will get you registered as long as you sign up in the first week. It will sell out faster than last year, but not by much.

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