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2013-05-14 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Modified Swim Starts at Certain Ironman Races
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GatorDeb - 2013-05-14 3:26 AM I contacted Ironman CDA, and wrote them telling them that I knew the plan was to have the last swimmer start by 7a having at least 17 hours to finish, but asked them what happened if somehow they were not able to do that and the last swimmer started after 7a, i.e. 7:30a.  Would the person still have 2:20:00 for the swim, 8:00:00 for the bike, and until 12:30a Monday for the whole thing?  Nope.  5:30p and Midnight will still apply, even if the last person starts beyond 7a.  I personally think that is not fair ..... now I will have to fight for a spot to make sure I start by 7a.  I don't want more time but I don't want less time.  I want to fight the 17 hours.

I'd also like to point out the 17 hour cutoff will be 17 hours from when you start and not at 12:00am (unless you start at exactly 7:00am).  Let's say you enter the water at 6:45am.  You have until 11:45pm to finish or you will be automatically DQ'd.  You won't get the extra 15 minutes to finish using that example.

I like they're doing that because it should eliminate weaker and slower swimmers/racers from incorrectly (and purposely) seeding themselves with the faster folks in hopes of getting more time to finish the race.  It won't matter, so don't do it.

 

Unfortunately, that's not how it reads:

"All athletes are expected to start by 7:00 a.m. at both venues, thus keeping all other timelines and cutoffs the same. This will ensure that all participants have at least the full 17 hours (subject to intermediate cutoffs) to complete the event."

 



2013-05-14 2:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Modified Swim Starts at Certain Ironman Races
tjfry - 2013-05-14 12:59 PM
GMAN 19030 - 2013-05-14 6:39 AM

GatorDeb - 2013-05-14 3:26 AM I contacted Ironman CDA, and wrote them telling them that I knew the plan was to have the last swimmer start by 7a having at least 17 hours to finish, but asked them what happened if somehow they were not able to do that and the last swimmer started after 7a, i.e. 7:30a.  Would the person still have 2:20:00 for the swim, 8:00:00 for the bike, and until 12:30a Monday for the whole thing?  Nope.  5:30p and Midnight will still apply, even if the last person starts beyond 7a.  I personally think that is not fair ..... now I will have to fight for a spot to make sure I start by 7a.  I don't want more time but I don't want less time.  I want to fight the 17 hours.

I'd also like to point out the 17 hour cutoff will be 17 hours from when you start and not at 12:00am (unless you start at exactly 7:00am).  Let's say you enter the water at 6:45am.  You have until 11:45pm to finish or you will be automatically DQ'd.  You won't get the extra 15 minutes to finish using that example.

I like they're doing that because it should eliminate weaker and slower swimmers/racers from incorrectly (and purposely) seeding themselves with the faster folks in hopes of getting more time to finish the race.  It won't matter, so don't do it.

 

Unfortunately, that's not how it reads:

"All athletes are expected to start by 7:00 a.m. at both venues, thus keeping all other timelines and cutoffs the same. This will ensure that all participants have at least the full 17 hours (subject to intermediate cutoffs) to complete the event."

 

It's in the new swim FAQ's on the IMCdA site:

 

http://www.ironman.com/~/media/9c44fbb28639407faffddd3ac3528639/cda%202013%20swim%20faqs%201.pdf

What happens if I finish before the midnight cut-off but I have a finish time of 
more than 17 hours?

IRONMAN Coeur d’Alene, athletes who finish before the midnight cut-off but
have a finishing time of more than 17 hours will not be considered an official IRONMAN
finisher and will not be eligible for age-group awards or for IRONMAN World
Championship slots or Rolldown slots).

 

2013-05-14 5:11 PM
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It's in the new swim FAQ's on the IMCdA site:

 

http://www.ironman.com/~/media/9c44fbb28639407faffddd3ac3528639/cda%202013%20swim%20faqs%201.pdf

What happens if I finish before the midnight cut-off but I have a finish time of 
more than 17 hours?

IRONMAN Coeur d’Alene, athletes who finish before the midnight cut-off but
have a finishing time of more than 17 hours will not be considered an official IRONMAN
finisher and will not be eligible for age-group awards or for IRONMAN World
Championship slots or Rolldown slots).

 

The last bit of this statement is completely unnecessary. It should be in red font.



Edited by xatefrogg 2013-05-14 5:11 PM
2013-05-14 5:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Modified Swim Starts at Certain Ironman Races
xatefrogg - 2013-05-14 7:11 PM

 

It's in the new swim FAQ's on the IMCdA site:

 

http://www.ironman.com/~/media/9c44fbb28639407faffddd3ac3528639/cda%202013%20swim%20faqs%201.pdf

What happens if I finish before the midnight cut-off but I have a finish time of 
more than 17 hours?

IRONMAN Coeur d’Alene, athletes who finish before the midnight cut-off but
have a finishing time of more than 17 hours will not be considered an official IRONMAN
finisher and will not be eligible for age-group awards or for IRONMAN World
Championship slots or Rolldown slots).

 

The last bit of this statement is completely unnecessary. It should be in red font.

How about someone in the 75-79 AG who is the only starter?



Edited by axteraa 2013-05-14 5:42 PM
2013-05-14 6:36 PM
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There would be no finisher in that AG and the slot would roll to another AG.
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