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2013-06-21 4:25 AM

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2013-06-21 5:15 AM
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Heard it all before.... will not stop me doing what I love.

However, if everybody else in my age group would like to take note then I might one day stand a chance of a podium!
2013-06-21 5:26 AM
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Yeah same. Fortunately I've always led a pretty healthy lifestyle and will continue to do so. I know my limits but will not let this line of thinking change a thing... 
2013-06-21 5:32 AM
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2013-06-21 5:35 AM
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I stopped reading the bloomberg articule where "40-to-60-year age bracket". Thank God I'm 63 and don't have to worry about quitting triathlon.

2013-06-21 5:48 AM
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Is salt good for you or Satan's granules this week?

Will butter make you keel over or is it necessary for survival according to the latest "study"?

Should we kill all the chickens because they lay eggs and that is the most horrendous food ever to harden your arteries this year?

I'm tired of "studies" and "authorities" that find exactly what they're looking for in 1% of whatever it is and then go on to say that's the only way it works.

Next "study" out will be that triathlons are the only way to ensure longevity.

Do it all in moderation and don't go from couch to IM in two months and odds are you'll do okay.



2013-06-21 6:39 AM
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that article was the joke...the first thing you learn in any statistics class is correlation does NOT equal caustation...the article failed to prove that it was the triathlon/training for the triathlon that ultimately resulted in his death...they say he died after training...ok, so what kind of training was he doing, what was his current health state, had he had a recent physical, was he dealing with an injury, was he properly hydrated...any one of those questions could provide a more accurate identification into the cause, rather than just training

it just seemed more like a diatribe against triathlons by people who most likely (although I don't know for sure) have never actually competed in one



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2013-06-21 7:07 AM
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that article was the joke...the first thing you learn in any statistics class is correlation does NOT equal caustation...the article failed to prove that it was the triathlon/training for the triathlon that ultimately resulted in his death...they say he died after training...ok, so what kind of training was he doing, what was his current health state, had he had a recent physical, was he dealing with an injury, was he properly hydrated...any one of those questions could provide a more accurate identification into the cause, rather than just training

it just seemed more like a diatribe against triathlons by people who most likely (although I don't know for sure) have never actually competed in one




Agreed. They also didn't mention any of the benefits which may, in most circumstances, greatly outweigh the infinitesimal odds of getting hurt. That is to say, is it better to stay on the couch instead of training? Come on. And like austhokie said, the article never stated any scientific results, just soundless conclusions. This person would not be approved for the proposal lol
2013-06-21 7:13 AM
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"The 40-to-60-year age bracket, often referred to as middle aged men in Lycra, or Mamils"

I'm a MAMIL! Never heard that one before.


I'll take this risk over my previous obesity and the risk factors that went with it, which I saw recently the AMA has officially called a disease.

To me part of the attention that tri-deaths get is the airplane crash scenario; it's a relatively spectacular way to die, so it gets a lot of press.

There was an interesting article yesterday about James Gandolfini and his apparent casue of death (heart related). He was an avid cigar smoker, liked to eat, and was overweight.


We only hear about his death because he was famous. We never hear about the tens-of-thousands in that same situation who die from those factors.




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2013-06-21 7:32 AM
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totally concur about the James Gandolfini thing...at least hopefully with the death of a celeb like that there may be a campaign for getting checked regularly etc...

I've seen very little mentioned about Vince Flynn (author) who also died from prostrate cancer the same day that JG did...he waited too long and by the time they diagnosed it it was in a late stage and there wasn't much that could be done from my understanding
2013-06-21 7:34 AM
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Geez ... it's almost like these articles assume people are immortal and your only going to die if you participate in whatever activity this week's article du jour is railing against.

Who is to say the subject of this article wouldn't have died at the same age (or earlier) regardless of what lifestyle he chose.

Go out and have fun and enjoy what you enjoy .. we are all going to die someday anyway.

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2013-06-21 7:36 AM
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pretty much - he could have just as easily (and more likely) died in a car accident; or from an accident around the house
2013-06-21 8:04 AM
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My belief is that, yes, doing triathlons for many people in this age group adds cardiac risk, but that risk decreases substantially if one is properly trained. I suspect if one isn't consistent in their training habits over the long-term then the risk is increased and that goes for everyone in every age group. Obviously as you get older the risk becomes greater and that is why doing exercise long-term helps keep your body healthy. I find it funny that the medical field is concentrating on these types of studies which IMO are somewhat obvious.

So I suspect if you are 90 and doing a triathlon, your risk of cardiac issues is probably higher than someone who is 25? Hmmmmm. Groundbreaking stuff. Hopefully they didn't waste too much time & money on these studies.
2013-06-21 8:25 AM
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Copy of this article arriving in the mail from my mother in 3...2...1...

2013-06-21 8:46 AM
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Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

Copy of this article arriving in the mail from my mother in 3...2...1...




All ready got it in my e-mail from a fat relative who is "worried about me"
2013-06-21 8:48 AM
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Originally posted by pschriver

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

Copy of this article arriving in the mail from my mother in 3...2...1...




All ready got it in my e-mail from a fat relative who is "worried about me"


have to admit that made me giggle...do you have one about being fat that you could send back to him with similar commentS?


2013-06-21 8:53 AM
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Originally posted by austhokie

  • ..the first thing you learn in any statistics class is correlation does NOT equal causation...



  • "A short-term study conducted by a team of people who claim to know a lot has shown a correlation between breathing your entire life and eventually dying. While cautioning that these results aren't conclusive, a spokesperson for the research group was quoted as saying 'maybe we should hold our breath for a minute once or twice a week, just to be safe'"

    The only thing I can take from articles like this is that I shouldn't push myself too hard too quickly. I need to be reasonable with my training and not push through pain and fatigue as much as I did when I was younger and stupider than I am now. I learned that one on my own (painfully, but I didn't get a government grant for it). I hope the next article is about how pizza (both kinds) contributes to longevity.
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    Originally posted by pschriver

    Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

    Copy of this article arriving in the mail from my mother in 3...2...1...




    All ready got it in my e-mail from a fat relative who is "worried about me"


    Funny!

    The article is an absolute joke!
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    Originally posted by austhokie

    that article was the joke...the first thing you learn in any statistics class is correlation does NOT equal caustation...


    What!?



    Shane

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    I just turned 60, so I guess I'm out of the 40 to 60 danger zone now.  Smile

    Some good news is that I got "carded" at the pool last night.  The front desk clerk didn't believe I was over 55 and entitled to the senior discount fee.  Wonder if there's any correlation there to the fact that I train regularly?

    Mark

     



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    Maybe it's because I live in FLA, but I sure see a lot of fit 70+ year olds at the pool each week, and on the bike. Guys that tell me that they swam in college in the 50s and attribute their fitness (never diets) to their overall excellent health relative to their age. These types of articles I'm convinced are to make sedentary people feel "less bad". I literally have a physical therapist friend who is my age. He is happily overweight and jokes that we'll both end up at the same place at the same time only he'll be "happier" because he eats like crap and does not exercise. So, this feeling is out there, but come on.
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    What's next? A hard hitting/ tell all about the risks of teenage drivers and cell phones?
    2013-06-21 9:21 AM
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    I will print this article out and hand it to the 60 yr old man who just past me like I was sitting still during a race...I read articles like this and just smile and laugh. 

    As others have stated, it is just the flavor of the week.  As with any activity in life, if you don't prepare properly then you increase the risk onf injury...welcome to the world people.  if you don't listen to your body and listen to the warning signs that your own body is giving you then you need to stop.  Your body knows what it needs and does not need better than we will every understand.

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    Originally posted by RedCorvette

    I just turned 60, so I guess I'm out of the 40 to 60 danger zone now.  Smile

    Some good news is that I got "carded" at the pool last night.  The front desk clerk didn't believe I was over 55 and entitled to the senior discount fee.  Wonder if there's any correlation there to the fact that I train regularly?

    Mark

     




    Getting carded - That's awesome! Keep up the great work!
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