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2013-08-27 3:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Texas 70.3 in Galveston
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It basically boils down to a terrible swim venue and the heat and humidity.  That early-season heat and humidity is a soul crusher.  Nobody is acclimated for that in May, not even us locals.  There are just better IM options in either more hospitable climates or at a more hospitable time of year.

An Ironman is a long and tough day no matter what so there's no need to do it in 90 degrees with a heat index approaching 100 and heat radiating off the pavement/concrete at over 110.

Would you then NOT recommend me doing IMTX for my first full IM? I've done several 70.3's over the last two years, but never a full. I was targeting the IMTX 2014 race as my first. It basically boils down to either IMTX or IMLouisville. Looking at the courses, Louisville looks harder. In terms of weather/temperature, Louisville can be just as hot and humid as IMTX. Thanks, TK

 

I did IMTX this past year as my first.  The benefit to someone not that far away (ie Houston, Dallas, San Antonio) is that you may get to ride the course before hand and your friends/family can be there.  I wouldn't trade the experience for the world.  All Ironman races are going to have their challenges.  Texas' is the heat and humidity.  Some people are equipped to deal with it, some aren't.  Only you know if you are.



2013-08-28 9:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Texas 70.3 in Galveston
Originally posted by tkolesza
Originally posted by GMAN 19030

It basically boils down to a terrible swim venue and the heat and humidity.  That early-season heat and humidity is a soul crusher.  Nobody is acclimated for that in May, not even us locals.  There are just better IM options in either more hospitable climates or at a more hospitable time of year.

An Ironman is a long and tough day no matter what so there's no need to do it in 90 degrees with a heat index approaching 100 and heat radiating off the pavement/concrete at over 110.

Would you then NOT recommend me doing IMTX for my first full IM? I've done several 70.3's over the last two years, but never a full. I was targeting the IMTX 2014 race as my first. It basically boils down to either IMTX or IMLouisville. Looking at the courses, Louisville looks harder. In terms of weather/temperature, Louisville can be just as hot and humid as IMTX. Thanks, TK

If those are your only two choices than flip a coin.  The weather will be similar.  The bike course at Louisville is more challenging.  The early season heat and humidity is the big challenge at IMTX.  Louisville is at the end of the summer so everyone has been training in some kind of heat so it's not as shocking as the May heat in The Woodlands.  So the advantage for IMTX from your perspective is location as you only have to drive 4+ hours south.  The advantage for Louisville would be three more months of training and being acclimated to the heat.

Curious as to why IMTX or IMLou?  Why not consider another race?  Ironmans Couer d'Alene, Canada, and Mont-Tremblant are still open.  Far more hospitable climates than IMTX and IMLou.  I just came back from doing Ironman Canada in Whistler and that place is just awesome.  Both the bike (6000' of gain) and run (1600' of gain) courses were more difficult than either TX or Lou but the area was stunningly beautiful.  I'm doing Couer d'Alene and Mont-Tremblant next year.

2013-08-29 9:08 PM
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I've done quite a few 1/2's and gotta say that without a doubt Galveston is the hardest I've ever done. Twice. Whole thing boils down to the heat and wind. I live in Dallas and even here there is no way to prepare for those conditions through the winter. I would never recommend this as a first time 1/2 for anyone who lives north of the San Antonio latitude. Unlike GMAN my slowest 1/2 IM have been Galveston. By a very large margin.
Same with IMTX as a first.

2013-08-30 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by sometimesitri

I've done quite a few 1/2's and gotta say that without a doubt Galveston is the hardest I've ever done. Twice. Whole thing boils down to the heat and wind. I live in Dallas and even here there is no way to prepare for those conditions through the winter. I would never recommend this as a first time 1/2 for anyone who lives north of the San Antonio latitude. Unlike GMAN my slowest 1/2 IM have been Galveston. By a very large margin.
Same with IMTX as a first.




Ha ha. Thanks for this. This may make my spring plans go up in smoke. Looking to do my first and this thread really has me wondering if TX is the right fit.
2013-09-01 9:07 AM
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I'm in! My second HIM but first at this venue. Thanks for the good info, everyone.

We love going to Galveston so my family will have a blast in spite of my finish time!
2013-09-19 10:04 AM
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I'm in! My second HIM but first at this venue. Thanks for the good info, everyone.

We love going to Galveston so my family will have a blast in spite of my finish time!


I've come full circle. I think I'm going to do it. Just a few months training before I sign up since there are no more discounts and no sell out risk before the end of the year.

My other consideration was KS 70.3 (50 miles from my home). A big problem with KS 70.3 is...you guessed it...high winds. Also, I did a tri in KS last year in early June (similar date to KS 70.3) and I struggled mightily with the heat and humidity as it was the 1st really hot weekend of the year.

So I figure, if I'm going to potentially battle wind and heat/humidity at home in KS, why not just do it in April in Galveston where the family will enjoy the event that much more, and it will help me accomplish some of my goals later in the season.


2014-02-07 7:39 AM
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I ruptured my plantar fascia two weeks ago and finally got in to see the podiatrist yesterday.  Thought I had broken a bone in my foot!  It will be another week or two before I can run again.  Nothing like taking 4-5 weeks from the middle of the Intermediate 16-week plan! 

Anyone sick of training indoors yet with all this blasted cold weather?

2014-02-07 8:07 AM
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Originally posted by HelmoAlkou

I ruptured my plantar fascia two weeks ago and finally got in to see the podiatrist yesterday.  Thought I had broken a bone in my foot!  It will be another week or two before I can run again.  Nothing like taking 4-5 weeks from the middle of the Intermediate 16-week plan! 

Anyone sick of training indoors yet with all this blasted cold weather?

 

I seem to keep lucking out and it's at least in the 40s when I start my long rides, but yeah my runs seem to be getting too long for me to bear the dreadmill.

2014-02-07 8:42 AM
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The wind was killing my bike workouts before I got hurt.  Then I figured, heck it's Galveston, might want to get use to it!  

2014-02-07 9:05 AM
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You might want to consider the Galveston 5150 in September. It's an Olympic distance that is on the same course at the 70.3. It'll give you a good feel for the area and the route.


I don't want to sound pejorative, but I looked at the 2012 5150 times and they seemed to be quite a bit slower than some other 5150 events that I'd seen (and been a part of). I'm not fast, so don't get me wrong. I just noticed that the lowest qualifying time for the 5150 championship (in my AG) was about 9 minutes slower than another event in MO. The MO event is known as extremely brutal with lots of hills.

I know there could be lots of reasons for this: maybe weather played a factor. I guess I expected this to be a very fast course. Anyone have any insight? Perhaps...because it is at the end of the 'season' and the 1st of the 5150 races it is not as well attended by those hoping to qualify? Maybe the course is not as flat and fast as I thought. Just curious.


I was in this event, they canceled the swim due to high winds. The winds were definitely a factor on the slower bike splits. If i remember, they were gusting to 25-30mph.
2014-02-07 9:34 AM
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Originally posted by texaggs
Originally posted by dprocket
Originally posted by chris00nj You might want to consider the Galveston 5150 in September. It's an Olympic distance that is on the same course at the 70.3. It'll give you a good feel for the area and the route.
I don't want to sound pejorative, but I looked at the 2012 5150 times and they seemed to be quite a bit slower than some other 5150 events that I'd seen (and been a part of). I'm not fast, so don't get me wrong. I just noticed that the lowest qualifying time for the 5150 championship (in my AG) was about 9 minutes slower than another event in MO. The MO event is known as extremely brutal with lots of hills. I know there could be lots of reasons for this: maybe weather played a factor. I guess I expected this to be a very fast course. Anyone have any insight? Perhaps...because it is at the end of the 'season' and the 1st of the 5150 races it is not as well attended by those hoping to qualify? Maybe the course is not as flat and fast as I thought. Just curious.
I was in this event, they canceled the swim due to high winds. The winds were definitely a factor on the slower bike splits. If i remember, they were gusting to 25-30mph.

 

Yep yep.  Was a pain with the disc on.



2014-02-12 1:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Texas 70.3 in Galveston (Sold Out)
Man, IM Texas went earlier then I was thinking it would (waited to long) and now Galveston is Sold Out way sooner than I was figuring, but I did not miss this one.
2014-02-15 12:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Texas 70.3 in Galveston
Originally posted by bradleyd3

Originally posted by strykergt

Originally posted by GMAN 19030

Texas 70.3 sold out for the first time this year and will probably do so again (although closer to the race).  It has become a very popular race.

IMTX will sell out before the year is over.  That race scares the sh*t out of people and has built a reputation as being pretty brutal.  I did it the first year and I will never do it again as long as the race is held on the same date.  It's freakin' miserable.

IMAZ sold out in less than a minute last year.




Please expound more IMTX= Brutal!! i believe you just need to know why


Click on my blog link below and read my race report....

Brutal because of the heat/headwind/humidty......not because of the course.




AWESOME race report! I'm doing IMTX this year, my first one. I've heard of the brutality of it all. A race report like yours will be useful to remember if something goes wrong. Way to go.
2014-02-16 6:14 PM
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Well I dragged my feet registering thinking that i still had time. Ouch! If people cancel their entry will they open it back up for their now open spots?

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2014-02-16 10:49 PM
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Well I dragged my feet registering thinking that i still had time. Ouch! If people cancel their entry will they open it back up for their now open spots?

Scott


I wish that was possible Scott or atleast transfer registration to another athlete. I dont know why WTC or any Organizer allow transfers or waitlisting. I guess its too much work for them inspite of all the volunteers.
2014-02-17 4:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Texas 70.3 in Galveston

Originally posted by tkolesza
Originally posted by GMAN 19030

It basically boils down to a terrible swim venue and the heat and humidity.  That early-season heat and humidity is a soul crusher.  Nobody is acclimated for that in May, not even us locals.  There are just better IM options in either more hospitable climates or at a more hospitable time of year.

An Ironman is a long and tough day no matter what so there's no need to do it in 90 degrees with a heat index approaching 100 and heat radiating off the pavement/concrete at over 110.

Would you then NOT recommend me doing IMTX for my first full IM? I've done several 70.3's over the last two years, but never a full. I was targeting the IMTX 2014 race as my first. It basically boils down to either IMTX or IMLouisville. Looking at the courses, Louisville looks harder. In terms of weather/temperature, Louisville can be just as hot and humid as IMTX. Thanks, TK

I did IMKY in 2008 and IMTX in 2010. I had a slower time at IMTX, and I trained harder. 

With IMTX you usually come back the last 50 ish miles into a brutal  headwind. Then, it gets hot. And even living in Texas we don't have time to train/acclimate to the heat before IMTX takes place. At least with IMKY you have 3 months of training in the heat before you go race in it. 

Any IM you do won't be easy. Just pick the one you want to do and that you know you can train for, and go for it. I had a client do IMTX 2010 for his first IM and he finished. 

 



2014-03-06 7:39 AM
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Bib numbers and swim wave times are posted. Getting Closer!
2014-03-06 8:18 AM
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Nice!  Looks like they've posted the 2014 athletes guide as well.

2014 Athlete's Guide

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Where do we find the wave start times?

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2014-03-06 10:12 AM
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2014-03-06 2:00 PM
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Thank you.

How did they determine in what order we go in?


2014-03-07 7:31 AM
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Every race kind of does it differently.

2014-03-17 4:51 PM
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They made some large changes in swim waves this year. Last year, the 30-34M went shortly after the pro waves (I remember still standing in the sand on the beach when I heard them call the 30-34M group and I had to scurry into the water).

This year we are starting nearly 45 mins later which will likely cause more winds on the bike and a hotter run. Seeking 4:50... we'll see
2014-03-19 9:13 AM
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Because I live in Texas, I only have a sleeveless wet suit. I've been keeping an eye on the water temps. It looks like it's about 60 degrees right now. Should I consider renting a wetsuit w/ sleeves? I don't like that option because I've never practiced in one, but I do get cold easy so I'm concerned. Thanks.
2014-03-19 9:38 AM
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Because I live in Texas, I only have a sleeveless wet suit. I've been keeping an eye on the water temps. It looks like it's about 60 degrees right now. Should I consider renting a wetsuit w/ sleeves? I don't like that option because I've never practiced in one, but I do get cold easy so I'm concerned. Thanks.


I wouldn't worry about a sleeveless until water temps approach ~50s IMO
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