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2014-04-28 11:42 AM
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Since this is wetsuit legal, do people do full changes after the swim into bicycling (bib shorts, jersey), then running gear for each segment, or just go with a one piece tri suit for the whole thing and deal with sweating through the same smelly kit for 10-16 hours? I'm on the fence at this point, but probably could be convinced to err on the side of comfort, even if it costs me 3-4 minutes in transition time.

I wear a 2-piece tri kit all day, starting with under my wetsuit. Trying to put on shorts and a jersey coming out of the swim is a pain in the neck. Ditto after 112 miles on the bike. The key is finding the right tri short that can go the distance and provide comfort and support all day. I would also avoid a 1-piece suit. Peeing in the lake or on the bike is a topic for another thread. But, unless you're shooting for a Kona slot, you're not going to want to wrestle with getting the suit off if/when an emergency trip to the port-o-john is called for.

So i imagine bibs would be a bad idea in this scenario as well. peeing isn't a problem with bibs, but I would imagine #2 could be an issue if it was an emergency, short of a full zip top that could easily be taken off (I haven't seen full zip tri tops, only cycling jerseys). The bibs would be no different than the one piece trisuit in that situation.

And of course I'm shooting for a Kona slot! Who isn't?!



2014-05-01 11:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread
Originally posted by rdailey1

Originally posted by Farlig
Originally posted by rdailey1

Since this is wetsuit legal, do people do full changes after the swim into bicycling (bib shorts, jersey), then running gear for each segment, or just go with a one piece tri suit for the whole thing and deal with sweating through the same smelly kit for 10-16 hours? I'm on the fence at this point, but probably could be convinced to err on the side of comfort, even if it costs me 3-4 minutes in transition time.

I wear a 2-piece tri kit all day, starting with under my wetsuit. Trying to put on shorts and a jersey coming out of the swim is a pain in the neck. Ditto after 112 miles on the bike. The key is finding the right tri short that can go the distance and provide comfort and support all day. I would also avoid a 1-piece suit. Peeing in the lake or on the bike is a topic for another thread. But, unless you're shooting for a Kona slot, you're not going to want to wrestle with getting the suit off if/when an emergency trip to the port-o-john is called for.

So i imagine bibs would be a bad idea in this scenario as well. peeing isn't a problem with bibs, but I would imagine #2 could be an issue if it was an emergency, short of a full zip top that could easily be taken off (I haven't seen full zip tri tops, only cycling jerseys). The bibs would be no different than the one piece trisuit in that situation.

And of course I'm shooting for a Kona slot! Who isn't?!




I do a full change for cycling and a full change for running. I'm mainly a cyclist, so I find cycling shorts much more comfortable. Plus, the longer shorts provide more compression for my quads and hamstrings.

You'll see every different way to dress, so do what makes you most comfortable. Don't worry about what will make you fastest in transition if it will make you slower and more uncomfortable on course.
2014-05-22 1:05 PM
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An apparel trick I learned at IMFL was to wear a 2 piece tri suit from start to finish but slip on a pair of bike shorts over tri bottoms for the ride then remove for the run. I also wore compression legUsually a smart idea to put a long sleeve dry tech shirt in special needs bag for run in case you get cold.

On the subject of bike gearing - I've been reading some opinions on the IMOO facebook page about preferred gearing for all the climbs. I'm a fairly good climber but don't want to blow up on the run. I'm 60 and have a FTP of 230 watts. I am riding a Cervelo P2 carbon with a 50/34 front ring and a 11/25 cassette. I'd appreciate any suggested gear changes from you IMOO veterans out there.

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2014-05-26 1:08 PM
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Originally posted by kweezen An apparel trick I learned at IMFL was to wear a 2 piece tri suit from start to finish but slip on a pair of bike shorts over tri bottoms for the ride then remove for the run. I also wore compression legUsually a smart idea to put a long sleeve dry tech shirt in special needs bag for run in case you get cold. On the subject of bike gearing - I've been reading some opinions on the IMOO facebook page about preferred gearing for all the climbs. I'm a fairly good climber but don't want to blow up on the run. I'm 60 and have a FTP of 230 watts. I am riding a Cervelo P2 carbon with a 50/34 front ring and a 11/25 cassette. I'd appreciate any suggested gear changes from you IMOO veterans out there. Thanks,

I'll bump this because I'm interested in hearing responses to the gearing question. I'm currently running the exact same setup (P2, compact front and 11-25 on the back). 

 

2014-06-02 1:26 PM
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Originally posted by rdailey1

Originally posted by kweezen An apparel trick I learned at IMFL was to wear a 2 piece tri suit from start to finish but slip on a pair of bike shorts over tri bottoms for the ride then remove for the run. I also wore compression legUsually a smart idea to put a long sleeve dry tech shirt in special needs bag for run in case you get cold. On the subject of bike gearing - I've been reading some opinions on the IMOO facebook page about preferred gearing for all the climbs. I'm a fairly good climber but don't want to blow up on the run. I'm 60 and have a FTP of 230 watts. I am riding a Cervelo P2 carbon with a 50/34 front ring and a 11/25 cassette. I'd appreciate any suggested gear changes from you IMOO veterans out there. Thanks,

I'll bump this because I'm interested in hearing responses to the gearing question. I'm currently running the exact same setup (P2, compact front and 11-25 on the back). 

 




I'm right in the same ballpark. FTP is around 240, and I'm at 172lbs, with a race weight (hopefully) of 165. I've ran the Verona Loop a couple of times this year, and first with a 53/39 and 11-28 and then again with a 50/34 and an 11-28. The compact makes a huge difference. I spent probably close to 10 minutes over the Loop grinding in the 28 tooth granny gear. The ratio spread in the 11-28 is bigger and the jumps lower in the cassette are bigger, but I don't find it to be significant enough to sacrifice the 28 tooth climber. Especially for the trio near the end of the loop, the 12% bigger 28-tooth is well worth it.

Personally, I plan on sticking with the 50/34 compact and the 11-28 cassette for race day.
2014-06-08 7:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread
Originally posted by rdailey1

Originally posted by Farlig
Originally posted by rdailey1

Since this is wetsuit legal, do people do full changes after the swim into bicycling (bib shorts, jersey), then running gear for each segment, or just go with a one piece tri suit for the whole thing and deal with sweating through the same smelly kit for 10-16 hours? I'm on the fence at this point, but probably could be convinced to err on the side of comfort, even if it costs me 3-4 minutes in transition time.

I wear a 2-piece tri kit all day, starting with under my wetsuit. Trying to put on shorts and a jersey coming out of the swim is a pain in the neck. Ditto after 112 miles on the bike. The key is finding the right tri short that can go the distance and provide comfort and support all day. I would also avoid a 1-piece suit. Peeing in the lake or on the bike is a topic for another thread. But, unless you're shooting for a Kona slot, you're not going to want to wrestle with getting the suit off if/when an emergency trip to the port-o-john is called for.

So i imagine bibs would be a bad idea in this scenario as well. peeing isn't a problem with bibs, but I would imagine #2 could be an issue if it was an emergency, short of a full zip top that could easily be taken off (I haven't seen full zip tri tops, only cycling jerseys). The bibs would be no different than the one piece trisuit in that situation.

And of course I'm shooting for a Kona slot! Who isn't?!




Castelli makes a pair of bib tri shorts and a full zip tri top.


2014-06-19 1:38 PM
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How is the training going everyone? Twelve or so more weeks to go! I am ready to knock this thing out and sit on the couch and watch college football baby!
2014-06-20 10:27 PM
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How is the training going everyone? Twelve or so more weeks to go! I am ready to knock this thing out and sit on the couch and watch college football baby!


Feeling fat and lazy, hating the weather, adjusting to a new job - so the typical grind.
2014-07-11 10:21 AM
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Does anyone know if any groups are doing any rides of the course on weekends? This is going to be my first IM and I live a couple hours away but I'd really like to come up and ride the course to see what I've gotten myself in to. What about swimming? Can you swim in the lake at anytime for training? Is the lake marked??

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2014-07-11 2:06 PM
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Does anyone know if any groups are doing any rides of the course on weekends? This is going to be my first IM and I live a couple hours away but I'd really like to come up and ride the course to see what I've gotten myself in to. What about swimming? Can you swim in the lake at anytime for training? Is the lake marked??

Thanks


There are groups and individuals that ride every weekend...Thursday - Sunday. You won't be alone. :-) My suggestion is to park at the Rocket Bike Shop on Paoli (just north of Bruce Street) and leave from there to start the loop. RBS will even let you shower after for $10. They kind of act like your SAG wagon should something go wrong on the training rides. They are closed on Sundays.

Gordon_mom and I were out there last weekend on Saturday and Sunday. The course is marked with painted green arrows, but I suggest you take either the map or the verbiage with you.

Couple of things to note: Verona police and Cross Plains police are patrolling to make sure we stop at all the stop signs and lights. Walen Rd is unbelievably bumpy. Racine (if you've done it) looks like glass compared to that.

If you're looking to run after the your ride, the Military State Trail is literally just around the corner from RBS. It's shaded and busy. If you run, I recommend heading toward Fitchburg. The other direction is mentally painful. :-)

You can swim in the lake anytime you want, but it's not marked. You'll be on your own out there just be careful.

Hope that helps!
2014-07-11 2:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread
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Does anyone know if any groups are doing any rides of the course on weekends? This is going to be my first IM and I live a couple hours away but I'd really like to come up and ride the course to see what I've gotten myself in to. What about swimming? Can you swim in the lake at anytime for training? Is the lake marked??

Thanks


WIBA in 3 weeks is a good option. I've never done it myself, but I hear they put on a pretty good show.

http://www.wisconsinbrickadventure.com/


2014-07-11 2:21 PM
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Originally posted by Farlig

Originally posted by rgarcia1501

Does anyone know if any groups are doing any rides of the course on weekends? This is going to be my first IM and I live a couple hours away but I'd really like to come up and ride the course to see what I've gotten myself in to. What about swimming? Can you swim in the lake at anytime for training? Is the lake marked??

Thanks


WIBA in 3 weeks is a good option. I've never done it myself, but I hear they put on a pretty good show.

http://www.wisconsinbrickadventure.com/


WIBA is sold out right now. But open rides/runs are still an option.
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