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2014-08-29 6:57 PM
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I expected there would be some hiccups in the process of an inaugural race. It is frustrating though that my finish time cushion is eroding with every new announcement. I'm not worried about not making cut-offs as I've done the math and, controlling what I can control and nothing catastrophic happening, I still have plenty of cushion left. With that said, it's added pressure to know that my bike leg now has an added 15 min and the further back I get into the swim start line, the less spare time I have for mishaps. I've stayed off the FB page intentionally for the last few days and will give it a few more to calm down before I go back. I feel bad for the people who were barely making midnight to begin with and I understand why they are so upset. But I can't get sucked into that negativity. Positive energy is all I'm interested in. Keeping my head down and staying focused!


2014-08-29 10:44 PM
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A lot going on recently! The office should send out an email in the coming days but I thought I might offer some insight and dispel a few rumors.

So lets talk about the swim course for a second!

We have a few interesting/challenging factors to deal with regarding the swim that have caused a lot questions to come our way. I will try and shed a little light on what’s going to happen on race day.

We have published a 7:30am start time for the pros, and a 7:40am age group start. The later start time is due to the later sunrise. Last year I drove to Chattanooga the day after 70.3 Augusta and stood at the swim start location to see what it actually looked like from 6:30am to 8:30am. I determined we couldn’t safely start the race until 7:30am because of lack of daylight. I am optimistic that we can start the race earlier than that but we wont know until race week when we stand on the shore and decide as a group what is safe for everyone involved. We will let you know at the athlete briefings the exact start time.

Now onto the actual start! We will start the age groupers in a rolling start. Athletes will line up first-come, first-serve. As soon as the pros are in the water, we will bring bringing athletes down the gangway to the large floating dock. There will be two starting areas, one on the left, one on the right. 60 feet will separate these areas. The goal with the two different areas is to have swimmers with a projected swim time greater than 1:20 start from the left side, and those with a projected swim time less than 1:20 start from the right side. This should allow athletes a chance to get in the water with swimmers of similar ability and get on their way down the river with a little less chaos. When you walk onto the swim start platform volunteers will help direct you to the start area of your choice. A timing wire will be placed right before the edge of the dock so your time wont start until just before you jump in the water (feet first, no diving). Once in the water, swimmers will have a wide area to swim in, a couple hundred feet. This should help everyone have as smooth of a swim as possible.

The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the last age group athlete starts the swim. Each athlete will get the full 2 hours and 20 minutes to complete the 2.4 mile swim regardless of what time they enter the water. Athletes who take longer than 2 hours and 20 minutes to complete the swim will receive a DNF. IRONMAN official’s reserve the right to pull athletes off the course who exceed any established course time cut-offs. I am optimistic that we can get everyone in the water in 25 minutes, but being a first year event I wont make any promises!

We are looking forward to a great race in a few weeks.

Brian
2014-08-29 10:58 PM
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And as far as the bike course goes, yes, it is long. By my calculations 116.08 miles. Its pretty simple actually.... I had signed permits a year ago, and they were revoked for reasons outside of our control. In order to ensure long term success in the market, we had to roll with it and figure it out. We are working on that. I had 24 hours to come up with something, and that something is the course you see online today. I have a 112 mile route in the works but am not sure if I can get approvals from the state level in a few weeks. It will be a fairly large change which obviously creates issues of its own. Athletes have trained on the course for months, and we throw a new course at them now... I get it! We will keep everyone posted.
2014-08-30 5:51 AM
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Thanks for dropping in and explaining the situation!

2014-08-30 9:12 AM
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Thank you Brian for the updates. I appreciate your efforts and understand the quirks of dealing with multiple jurisdictions. Even with a couple of extra miles, the bike course is fair and fun. I will take the extra miles over the 3 witches of IMWI any day. Now, do you have any pull with the weather gods?
2014-08-30 10:48 AM
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Thank you Brian for stopping in and speaking up. I will say that Raleigh 70.3 was the best organized triathlon I've ever participated in. So I have my faith in you. Don't let me down :-)

I'm from Miami where the inaugural Ironman 70.3 logistical nightmare is the stuff of legends. You were not that race director. But my personal anxiety comes from the knowledge that first-time races can go horribly, horribly, wrong.

Thanks again for sharing what you know. See you in less than a month.


2014-08-30 11:17 AM
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Thanks for the additional information, Brian. The two docks for the swim make sense. The bike course is beautiful and I hope it doesn't have to change drastically, but I wouldn't miss those extra miles if you could make them magically disappear. I think most people have the attitude that the course is what it is and we're showing up on race day prepared as best we can be, regardless.
2014-08-30 11:34 AM
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Brian, will potholes be filled? There have been a few accidents. Apparently one today was very bad. I hope any road hazards will at least be marked in some way for safety.
2014-08-30 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by runswithcrazydog

Thanks for the additional information, Brian. The two docks for the swim make sense. The bike course is beautiful and I hope it doesn't have to change drastically, but I wouldn't miss those extra miles if you could make them magically disappear. I think most people have the attitude that the course is what it is and we're showing up on race day prepared as best we can be, regardless.

I did IMNY/NJ in a similar set up - it worked and I think most people are going to be surprised in their swim time - My swim is usually on the 90 minute range - down the Hudson with no "visible" current - 58 minutes. I did nothing different just got in and swam - in less than an hour people were grabbing my arms and pulling me up to the dock (I thought I was being DQ'ed or had lost my way, or somthing under an hour???) if I had known I would have put some effort into it. So thats my lesson learned from swimming down hill (BTW it does not work at IM Louisville)
2014-08-30 7:50 PM
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It was great to hear directly from the RD on this site, now I see why the bike is longer. Tough call, make it 112 with a new course or keep it long. I rode the current route 12 times and it is a good course. Where are the potholes people are crashing on, I never saw anything bad when I was out there. I rode 116 miles Thur and other than a sore butt, it was not too bad! Goon info on the swim start, I'm still guessing folks worried about finishing before 12 will be racing to the swim start to get in line. I'm a MOP racer so I'm more than happy to let others get up at 330-4 am for that! Be safe, we are really close now. And I agree with Aintaround, IMKY was my slowest swim of the 7 IM races I have done.
2014-08-31 8:09 AM
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Thanks for the clarity Brian…..planning a vacation after this ?


2014-08-31 1:11 PM
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Originally posted by runswithcrazydog

I did IMNY/NJ in a similar set up - it worked and I think most people are going to be surprised in their swim time - My swim is usually on the 90 minute range - down the Hudson with no "visible" current - 58 minutes. I did nothing different just got in and swam - in less than an hour people were grabbing my arms and pulling me up to the dock (I thought I was being DQ'ed or had lost my way, or somthing under an hour???) if I had known I would have put some effort into it. So thats my lesson learned from swimming down hill (BTW it does not work at IM Louisville)


I'd say your spot on here, most will have a much easier and faster IM swim split. I'll take this ANY day compared to what IMFL was last year.

Bryan, thanks for the insight here. It's nice to know that your hands were tied on the Bike course, sucks that the permits were revoked.

Now, email the TVA and tell them to open up the dam on 9/28, and we'll call it even on the extra bike miles.
2014-09-01 9:05 PM
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I will second what Lisa said about the potholes and bad road conditions in certain locations. I rode the course Saturday and there were two major accidents related to bad roads. Both patients needed EMS transport to the local hospital. One was in serious condition, the other discharged today. I know where these spots are just because Ive ridden the course so much. I would be happy to make a day trip out there with Brian/others and several cans of glow orange spray paint if it would save some more carnage.
My Garmin said 116 after the full circuit btw.
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