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2013-11-06 6:45 PM

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Subject: If you had about $4000...
And you wanted a new road bike (I had a tri bike I didn't like it), where would you start?


2013-11-06 6:47 PM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...

Originally posted by tricrazy And you wanted a new road bike (I had a tri bike I didn't like it), where would you start?

Ridley or Cervelo - Since they actually have bikes that would fit me.

2013-11-06 6:51 PM
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Yep - Cervelo S5 in Ultegra would come in right at $4000..... that's what I would buy.

2013-11-06 7:10 PM
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If it were me, start with a good fit and hope a CAAD10 will work. Get either the Rival or Force option, dial the fit in, and put the rest of the money back in my wallet. Or use the leftovers for a power meter, race wheels, aero helmet, etc. Or use the leftovers and buy a CAADX cyclocross bike.

$4k is a pretty big budget so you have many many options. You could even get into Ultegra Di2 for that price range if that's what you want. Just know that once you start creeping over the $1500 range, the speed benefits you get for your dollar starts to decrease dramatically. There is abosolutely nothing wrong with buying really nice bikes...just know that you aren't buying a lot, if any, speed when it comes to the bike itself.
2013-11-06 7:40 PM
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A hot pink one.
2013-11-06 9:44 PM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...
Originally posted by Jason N

Just know that once you start creeping over the $1500 range, the speed benefits you get for your dollar starts to decrease dramatically. There is abosolutely nothing wrong with buying really nice bikes...just know that you aren't buying a lot, if any, speed when it comes to the bike itself.

Something like a Felt B16 with an aero front and disc cover for the rear, then 2 plane tickets + hotel for a few days for a nice destination race weekend.


2013-11-06 11:15 PM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...
Originally posted by Mc Q

Originally posted by Jason N

Just know that once you start creeping over the $1500 range, the speed benefits you get for your dollar starts to decrease dramatically. There is abosolutely nothing wrong with buying really nice bikes...just know that you aren't buying a lot, if any, speed when it comes to the bike itself.

Something like a Felt B16 with an aero front and disc cover for the rear, then 2 plane tickets + hotel for a few days for a nice destination race weekend.


except a B16 is not a road bike.
2013-11-07 6:53 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...
I would be looking into a custom built titanium bike with Ultegra components. It might stretch that 4k number though.
2013-11-07 7:58 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...

Have you looked into the new Specialized Alias?  It's a hybrid tri/road bike built for women.

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/road/alias

2013-11-07 8:23 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...

Originally posted by GMAN 19030

Have you looked into the new Specialized Alias?  It's a hybrid tri/road bike built for women.

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/road/alias

I've read about this and I question if it will be successful. One of their selling features is the adaptability of the bike: "a bike that can easily swap between two positions ". Their target audience is entry level to mid level athletes. How "easy" is easy for a beginner? Changing saddle/seat post position, adding and removing aero bars, tweaking the fit between road and tri.... not that easy for many and at the risk of being accused of sexism, bike wrenching seems to be harder for women than men. I think they missed on this one.

 

ETA - If I had a budget of $4k for a road bike my fist stop would be Google. I'd do a whole bunch of research, just as I did when my budget was $2k for a tri bike. I know nothing about road bikes in that price range, because I don't need to know right now.



Edited by mrbbrad 2013-11-07 8:27 AM
2013-11-07 8:26 AM
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Seven Elium SLX Framset



2013-11-07 8:35 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...
Originally posted by mrbbrad

Originally posted by GMAN 19030

Have you looked into the new Specialized Alias?  It's a hybrid tri/road bike built for women.

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/road/alias

I've read about this and I question if it will be successful. One of their selling features is the adaptability of the bike: "a bike that can easily swap between two positions ". Their target audience is entry level to mid level athletes. How "easy" is easy for a beginner? Changing saddle/seat post position, adding and removing aero bars, tweaking the fit between road and tri.... not that easy for many and at the risk of being accused of sexism, bike wrenching seems to be harder for women than men. I think they missed on this one.

 

ETA - If I had a budget of $4k for a road bike my fist stop would be Google. I'd do a whole bunch of research, just as I did when my budget was $2k for a tri bike. I know nothing about road bikes in that price range, because I don't need to know right now.




Oh, for sure on the research. I was just curious what others would say.
2013-11-07 9:02 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...

Originally posted by GMAN 19030

Have you looked into the new Specialized Alias?  It's a hybrid tri/road bike built for women.

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/road/alias

Yes, another compromise bike, meant to do everything, but do nothing well.

2013-11-07 9:08 AM
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Bike fit, then go shopping for a bike that fits me well at a good price.

2013-11-07 9:19 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...
You can get an excellent road bike for far less than $4000.

I'd probably go for a Specialized Allez 105 with some Easton EC70s (say $1K for the bike, another $600 for the wheels), spend another $400 on a fluid trainer, work my a$$ off with trainerroad over the winter, then enter some races in some places I'd never been before with the 2K I didn't spend on a bike.
2013-11-07 9:40 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...
Originally posted by Jason N

If it were me, start with a good fit and hope a CAAD10 will work. Get either the Rival or Force option, dial the fit in, and put the rest of the money back in my wallet. Or use the leftovers for a power meter, race wheels, aero helmet, etc. Or use the leftovers and buy a CAADX cyclocross bike.

$4k is a pretty big budget so you have many many options. You could even get into Ultegra Di2 for that price range if that's what you want. Just know that once you start creeping over the $1500 range, the speed benefits you get for your dollar starts to decrease dramatically. There is abosolutely nothing wrong with buying really nice bikes...just know that you aren't buying a lot, if any, speed when it comes to the bike itself.


Truth. If I could drop $4k, I'd probably end up on a Specialized Tarmac with Ultegra Di2. The local shop treats me well and I ride with some of the guys so I'd buy my next bike from them (Specialized and Trek dealer). Right now I have a Felt F4 from 2008 that was 1800 when I got it and I can't say I'm losing that much performance although I get a lot of bike envy riding with some of the guys who are always on a new Venge or Tarmac S works...I do try and make them suffer when I can...

Jason, I also have wanted a CAAD10 and would maybe go that route. I've had the itch to race more and some friends want me to do crits with them and I'd be a lot more comfortable going down on that frame (not that I want to go down...but it'll happen).


2013-11-07 10:17 AM
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My LBS quoted me $500 for a CAAD10 crash replacement frame. Compared to somewhere close to $2k for a hi-mod super six (or now EVO) frame.
2013-11-07 10:28 AM
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I would certainly look at Trek Madone series.  (I actually did and bought a Trek 6.9 a year and a half ago. I like it.)  The good thing about the line is that they have a wide range of sizes and geometries to fit you.  The differences between the lines is not so much the ride.  They all share a certain ride characteristics that is pretty much optimum.  The higher in the line, the lighter the bike and the better the drive components.  Your price range puts you at the Madone 5.2 or if you can catch a good sale, the 6.2.  Both have really good Ultegra components.  This is the point in the Trek line-up that delivers the most quality for your money.  

Trek gets a bit of undeserved disdain from the bike snobs.  But Trek still spends more money on carbon research than anybody and they deliver super bikes at prices you can afford.  (No, I am not associated with Trek in any way except being a customer.)

 

2013-11-07 10:54 AM
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Felt AR or Cervelo S5 is where I'd start.

2013-11-07 11:00 AM
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Subject: RE: If you had about $4000...
Originally posted by Jason N

If it were me, start with a good fit and hope a CAAD10 will work. Get either the Rival or Force option, dial the fit in, and put the rest of the money back in my wallet. Or use the leftovers for a power meter, race wheels, aero helmet, etc. Or use the leftovers and buy a CAADX cyclocross bike.

$4k is a pretty big budget so you have many many options. You could even get into Ultegra Di2 for that price range if that's what you want. Just know that once you start creeping over the $1500 range, the speed benefits you get for your dollar starts to decrease dramatically. There is abosolutely nothing wrong with buying really nice bikes...just know that you aren't buying a lot, if any, speed when it comes to the bike itself.


x2 on this. A CAAD10 with Ultegra (I'm a Shimano fanboy) and get new wheels and a powermeter and all the other misc things that cost a lot of money on the bike.

Lot's of people are replacing their crashed carbon frame with a CAAD10 frame especially crit racers.
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