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2013-11-11 1:35 PM

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Subject: Talk me into this bike

I really want a "cargo" bike, which to me means going to do real shopping trips, including picking up 12-packs of soda and other big/heavy things.  Right now I do smaller trips for a bags worth of groceries, but I use either pannier or a backpack. It can be uncomfortable.

My husband has a trailer, but I want something where I am more self-contained and can see my cargo.  And, doesn't require assembly when I want to use.

So... the local bike shop has this bike on sale.  Normally $1299, it's listed at $750-ish.   I should buy it, right?



2013-11-11 1:41 PM
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Hopefully they include pedals.

2013-11-11 2:46 PM
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Does it come in carbon?

2013-11-11 2:46 PM
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Personally I wouldn't even consider spending that much on a cargo bike. Then again i'm a poor twenty something.

2013-11-11 3:03 PM
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the seat's too high.

2013-11-11 3:03 PM
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Hi Emily! How about this used Kona Ute? Mount a big 'ol box on the back to hold gear plus the panniers. Maybe talk them down another 100 or so - plus no tax!

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/4140504936.html

I think I'd rather have my load over the rear wheel than than the front.







2013-11-11 3:59 PM
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I would make REALLY sure you want that bike.....because you'll likely be stuck with it or have to sell it for pennies to get rid of it.

2013-11-11 4:06 PM
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2013-11-11 4:07 PM
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I would ask them for a test ride and put as much liquids as you would ever carry and then when you tip it over with all the weight over the front wheel and not like the way it handles you can take it back without spending the money.

I prefer the weight in the back, but I also have rear panniers and a trailer that I made from a kiddie trailer for $20.00

 

 

 

2013-11-11 4:51 PM
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You guys are the worst friends!  I thought I could for sure get a group of triathletes to okay a bike purchase, no matter how silly.

I do agree that a test ride would be in order. Maybe I'll bring the 36-pack of Diet Mountain Dew I just got at Sam's Club, to try a real life scenario.  That thing is so heavy I can barely lift it. 

I think the idea of the smaller, lower front tire is to help balance the load. 

2013-11-11 4:54 PM
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An exception to the N+1 rule?



2013-11-11 4:56 PM
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An exception to the N+1 rule?

Apparently!  Geez!  I guess this is why it's still on the sale rack...

2013-11-11 5:10 PM
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THIS is the bike you want!

http://www.konaworld.com/ute.cfm
2013-11-11 5:29 PM
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They are all the rage in Copenhagen and other European areas.   If it makes you happy go for it.   Just because it's not a "road" bike or "tri" bike doesn't make it any less desirable to have.   My favourite bike of the three I have is my beach cruiser.     It has two rear foldable wire basket and a removable front basket. It will eventually have a honky horn, a retro headlight and any other thing I can think of. It is what I use to run errands on in my wee small town.  I'm cheap, umm, no, frugal that way.    Yes, I love all my bikes and make use of every one of them.   When the day comes that I no longer can ride two wheelers I will gladly and gleefully find me an adult trike to get out and about.    Hopefully that day is far in the future.

It's the way of the past and the way of the future......

2013-11-12 7:35 AM
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I think I would feel odd with stuff in front of me.

Can't give you any advice except my friend Adam who is into all sorts of weird and strange and apparently useful bikes has a Big Dummy as his cargo bike and loves it.
2013-11-12 9:33 AM
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The smaller front tire concept was implemented much better decades ago. You'd have a lot more fun putting a basket on one of these:

 

 





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2013-11-12 12:00 PM
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Here is my 2 cents.

I have made the dutch style cargo. Short dutch style. Ute style and one like the one in the picture.

I like the true dutch style and the ute style best for heavy loads.

For small light stuff the front higher carry works well. With weight and the little tire the ride can be harsh.

With a ute style and some good bags I can carry my 60# son and 50# of supplies to a bmx race.

My wife rides to school on one like the picture and loves it but when it is loaded heavy it is hard to steer.

Fell free to ask any more questions. for 7 months of the year we live on these bikes.
Dan
2013-11-12 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by wingsfan

The smaller front tire concept was implemented much better decades ago. You'd have a lot more fun putting a basket on one of these:

 

 

The Manta Ray 5 speed on the top post was awesome as a kid, unless you hit the wrong bump!
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1971-Schwinn-Manta-Ray-5-Speed-Kool-Lemon-Yellow-Original-Banana-Seat-Shifter-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/31MAAOxypNtSeU-W/$KGrHqNHJBUFJPSNFp9BSeU-WvH,g~~60_57.JPG

2013-11-12 12:16 PM
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Like someone else said, I also made a cargo trailer out of a used kiddie trailer. Cheap, holds up to 100 lbs and when I take it off I have a "normal" bike.

Also,, hauling weight low and behind you (like in a trailer or low rear panniers) is wayyyy better than the setup pictured. Loaded down, that thing would handle like a pig. You aren't racing it, but it will be a problem when you need to react quickly for safety.
2013-11-12 12:20 PM
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Of course.

2013-11-12 3:13 PM
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I would think that setup would be scary with any kind of decent weight in it. You won't be able to see your front tire which can be helpful when avoiding obstacles. Also if it is your "errand" bike I imagine you will be going on and off sidewalks, perhaps over some bumpy terrain. All the weight in the front, the small front tire and a decent sized bump sounds like a recipe for a crash to me.

If I had to carry a decent amount of weight I would want it behind me centered over the rear wheel for better handling or in a trailer. 

And like LB said, if you go ahead with it make sure you love it first cuz that looks like the kind of bike that might be real hard to get rid of. 



2013-11-12 5:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chuckhead Here is my 2 cents. I have made the dutch style cargo. Short dutch style. Ute style and one like the one in the picture. I like the true dutch style and the ute style best for heavy loads. For small light stuff the front higher carry works well. With weight and the little tire the ride can be harsh. With a ute style and some good bags I can carry my 60# son and 50# of supplies to a bmx race. My wife rides to school on one like the picture and loves it but when it is loaded heavy it is hard to steer. Fell free to ask any more questions. for 7 months of the year we live on these bikes. Dan

Thanks! 

My main interest in this was the integrated basket that didn't require another bag (i.e. pannier, etc) or attaching anything.  But if this is not fun to ride, I won't ride it (or use as intended). I would like at least to depend on carrying maybe 20 lbs or so - that's a guess, maybe more. 

 

2013-11-12 5:27 PM
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Originally posted by BikerGrrrl

Originally posted by Chuckhead Here is my 2 cents. I have made the dutch style cargo. Short dutch style. Ute style and one like the one in the picture. I like the true dutch style and the ute style best for heavy loads. For small light stuff the front higher carry works well. With weight and the little tire the ride can be harsh. With a ute style and some good bags I can carry my 60# son and 50# of supplies to a bmx race. My wife rides to school on one like the picture and loves it but when it is loaded heavy it is hard to steer. Fell free to ask any more questions. for 7 months of the year we live on these bikes. Dan

Thanks! 

My main interest in this was the integrated basket that didn't require another bag (i.e. pannier, etc) or attaching anything.  But if this is not fun to ride, I won't ride it (or use as intended). I would like at least to depend on carrying maybe 20 lbs or so - that's a guess, maybe more. 

 




My Surly Cross Check is my SUV bike. I carry 40 pounds on the back and have no handling issues. I haven't yet had the need to add a front rack, but am confident it would be fine. I think that Kona Ute or something like the cross check would be a great "human powered truck".

I have yet to run errands to the garden center for mulch and topsoil, but bet that I could.
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