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2013-12-05 1:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Correct way to log swim workouts

Originally posted by jrensink78

I like being able to track both moving and resting time.  So on my 910xt, I press Start at the beginning of the workout.  During the workout, I only use the lap button until the end when I press Start again to stop the workout.  I press the lap button at the beginning and end of each rest period.

I used to just track moving time, which required me to start/stop the timer repeatedly during my workout.  But every so often I'd miss a button push and I'd start losing laps.  So only using the lap button once the workout has started eliminated that problem.  Worst case now is a rest period gets lumped into a moving period.

I really don't like TP for swim analysis (maybe I don't know how to use it correctly).  So when I want to dig into swim info, I typically look in Garmin Connect.  You could just grab the moving time from that and paste it into TP so you have the moving time accurate in there.

I have been using my 910 in the pool for a couple of years and started uploading workouts to Connect, BT, and TP.  Sometimes the data that uploads to TP is differnt then Connect.  It can show longer time and shorter distance but when I really analyze what it is spitting out, connect is always correct.  I end up editing the workout in TP to accurately match Connect.  The upload from Connect to BT works very well too.  I have very little issues. 

I just log moving time.  When my coach set a workout for the pool, say 60 minutes with Warm Up, Drills, Transition, Main Set, and Cool down, the 60 minutes includes rest periods.  I may have been in the water for 60 minutes but the moving time might only be 40 minutes. 

Being consistent is the only thing I try to do now.  But then I end up having the same issue you talked about with the start / stop button and screwing up the whole workout.  LOL.

 

 



2013-12-05 3:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Correct way to log swim workouts
I have a $50 Timex Ironman watch where I use the Chrono setting. I start it when I begin my set and stop it when I finish. Then start over for each set but the watch keeps an aggregate time. Pretty simple.

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2013-12-05 3:59 PM
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Originally posted by snappingt Throw away your watch, use the pace clock, swim hard against the person in the lane next to you and if you have to, log the yardage. Training for running and training for swimming are not the same thing.

This.  When in the pool, I don't even wear a watch.  I have a 910 that I'll use for OWS, but in the pool, it's just me, the pace clock, the other swimmers (if in masters), and distance.

When logging in BT, I usually just put in some arbitrary time like 1:00, 1:15, or 1:30 just so my purple bar gets populated.

2013-12-05 4:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Correct way to log swim workouts

I really don't think there's a "correct" way.    I personally think the workout is the total elapsed time, including rest intervals, as prescribed.  I only stop my watch (a simple Timex lap watch) if I really interrupt my workout by getting out the pool, an extended conversation, extended time fixing my equipment.  I also don't lollygag.  If I am doing a set with a bunch of stuff like kick-boards, pull buoys, etc, I really am quick about keeping going.  Paddles are the worst!

If I really needed to know my speed for a given interval, I can look back at my laps on the watch.  I tend to watch as I go and make a mental note, which is enough to gauging progress.   Also, this way I always surprise myself at races with a much faster time

I also don't stop my watch when I am running and have to stop to cross the road, or whatever.   One time in a race I had to stop for a train and I didn't get any time taken off my overall.   Stuff happens.  But again, if I stop for an extended time (really long light at a big intersection, fixing my equipment, potty break) I do stop my watch.  But the normal course of accomplishing the workout gets the total elapsed time.



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2013-12-05 4:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Correct way to log swim workouts

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by snappingt Throw away your watch, use the pace clock, swim hard against the person in the lane next to you and if you have to, log the yardage. Training for running and training for swimming are not the same thing.

This.  When in the pool, I don't even wear a watch.  I have a 910 that I'll use for OWS, but in the pool, it's just me, the pace clock, the other swimmers (if in masters), and distance.

When logging in BT, I usually just put in some arbitrary time like 1:00, 1:15, or 1:30 just so my purple bar gets populated.

You can always tell the triathletes in the pool (as opposed to the swimmers).  Used to be they're the ones wearing a watch.  Now it's GPS   :^

2013-12-05 4:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Correct way to log swim workouts

Originally posted by ChrisM

Originally posted by Jason N

Originally posted by snappingt Throw away your watch, use the pace clock, swim hard against the person in the lane next to you and if you have to, log the yardage. Training for running and training for swimming are not the same thing.

This.  When in the pool, I don't even wear a watch.  I have a 910 that I'll use for OWS, but in the pool, it's just me, the pace clock, the other swimmers (if in masters), and distance.

When logging in BT, I usually just put in some arbitrary time like 1:00, 1:15, or 1:30 just so my purple bar gets populated.

You can always tell the triathletes in the pool (as opposed to the swimmers).  Used to be they're the ones wearing a watch.  Now it's GPS   :^

One guy at my old pool in FL used to wear his HRM, too.



2013-12-06 6:01 AM
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Old swimmer here. I have always tracked swim workouts by yards(I swim in a 25 yard pool). All my records are in an excel file not online.

This is what I do. I use my 910 and transfer the laps to this spreadsheet. Probably overkill, but I like the data. With it I can track my intervals and not take credit for the rest intervals. I used to use it with my sports watch.



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2013-12-06 1:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Correct way to log swim workouts
I've used the Finis brand lap counter w/timer. The one that sits on the edge of the pool and hangs in the water, not the one that clips on your finger. You hit the pad when you leave the wall and that starts the timer, every time you come back you hit the tab again and it counts your lap. Then I stop the timer in between sets. Using that I get an exact time that I actually spent swimming as well as a count on the number of laps.
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