Do triathlons have finish times?
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2014-01-09 12:55 AM |
31 | Subject: Do triathlons have finish times? I'm (obviously) really new and I'm still learning everything I need to learn for my first triathlon in August. According to the schedule on the Chicago SuperSprint webpage, the first wave begins at 7 AM and 8:55 AM is the "final finisher." My goal this year is to complete the triathlon. Does this schedule mean that if I do not finish by 8:55 AM that I will have failed to officially complete the triathlon? |
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2014-01-09 3:01 AM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Correct. Odds are if you're in even decent shape you'll make the cut off times for a tri, though. Well, in all honesty, unless they pull you from the course even if you finish after 8:55 you'll still have finished, just not with an official time and with a DNF (Did Not Finish) time in the standings. |
2014-01-09 6:11 AM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? It depends on the race. Many have an estimated schedule. Normally if it is a hard and fast cut off they will mention it in the rules or somewhere on the website. Of the sprints I have done (more than 25) I don't think any had a strict had to finish by xxx time rule. This can be dependent on location, Race Director, and permits issued by town or area. Only race I know that has hard and fast time cut off is Ironman distance races. Enjoy your journey to your first triathlon! |
2014-01-09 7:25 AM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
191 Melbourne, Florida | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Often the finish times are for scheduling of the awards ceremonies. If you're finishing after 8:55 you clearly didn't podium. There have been many races where people are still finishing their race after awards have been distributed. I looked up the distances for your race (swim: 375m, bike: 10km, run: 2.5km). This race is half of a standard sprint distance. Average times for a sprint are under 2 hours. I'm certain that you'll be fine with a 1:55 window. Good luck, it's gonna be fun, and addictive. |
2014-01-09 7:48 AM in reply to: vertseven |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Originally posted by vertseven Often the finish times are for scheduling of the awards ceremonies. If you're finishing after 8:55 you clearly didn't podium. There have been many races where people are still finishing their race after awards have been distributed. I looked up the distances for your race (swim: 375m, bike: 10km, run: 2.5km). This race is half of a standard sprint distance. Average times for a sprint are under 2 hours. I'm certain that you'll be fine with a 1:55 window. Good luck, it's gonna be fun, and addictive. If you did every event really slowly: Swim 375m at 3 minutes/100 = 15 minutes T1 = 5 minutes Bike 6.2 miles at 10.5 mph = 35 minutes T2 = 5 minutes Run 2.55 miles @ 3.2 mph = 45 minutes 1 hr 45 minutes Train and do the race and you will laugh at the times I suggested. |
2014-01-09 1:33 PM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Chicago, IL | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Yes. Technically you'd receive a DNF. Don't stress yourself out over the cut-off times. You have plenty of time to train and get used to OWS, and the bike-to-run feeling.
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2014-01-09 2:12 PM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Champion 6993 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? my exgf did that race in 2012 and she is super slow and did it in 1:15 so I think you will be fine. |
2014-01-09 2:45 PM in reply to: chirunner134 |
over a barrier | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? You'll be fine. The swim is at shallow beach (you can run the swim) and the bike is nearly flat (just a tiny bridge used for CX State race), and the run is flat. The race is beginner friendly. You'll do great. |
2014-01-12 12:32 AM in reply to: running2far |
31 | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Thank you very much for answering my newbie question, everyone! :-) I'm going to focus on the fun of training over the next seven months by easing myself into it from now on. I tried a brick workout my first day and became so dizzy that I almost passed out in the middle of the gym. |
2014-01-12 8:41 AM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? As mentioned, 1:55 is more than enough time to finish unless you have a crash, mechanical or just simply cannot finish the distance (which is unlikely). Even if you walk the entire run, bike at running pace and take forever to finish the swim (and I know that part… self-proclaimed worse swimmer in the history of triathlon and always last in my AG out of the water, luckily I can bike and run…) you will finish well within the time allowed. Most of the time, the max time is set so it gives the race directors a way to plan for any road closures, municipal support (police, ambulance, EMT services, etc.) and then plan the price ceremony. If someone is still out on the course at 8:55am, I bet they would let that person finish and not DNF, seen it happen a few times over all the years I've raced (I can recall 5 races in the last 10 years where someone has been outside of the time allowed in a sprint… no very common in other words). |
2014-01-12 10:09 AM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Member 124 The 951 | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? My first tri: I spent 8 minutes total in transition, taking my time changing and putting my gear on. For some reason I forgot that I was being timed for that too! |
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2014-01-12 7:48 PM in reply to: BikesOfALesserGod |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Originally posted by BikesOfALesserGod ... For some reason I forgot that I was being timed for that too! ^^^ That's a great (i.e. funny) story! |
2014-01-12 9:07 PM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Expert 2192 Greenville, SC | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Originally posted by Carolyn24 Thank you very much for answering my newbie question, everyone! :-) I'm going to focus on the fun of training over the next seven months by easing myself into it from now on. I tried a brick workout my first day and became so dizzy that I almost passed out in the middle of the gym. yeah you have to adjust pace/intensity for a brick. i couldn't imagine doing a brick in a gym with poor airflow.... that would be like the peak of summer. don't focus on combining workouts if your race isn't for a while, and instead just focus on each by itself. |
2015-01-08 12:26 PM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
1 | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? I had the same question about the same race. The issue that I wanted to add though is it says that the final wave starts at 8:09. That would, based on what the replies have indicated mean that if you were in the last wave you would have to finsih in 46 minutes. I am a complete novice and I believe that with training I could finish in less than 90 minutes but I dont think I could do 45 minutes. Am I missing something? |
2015-01-08 1:27 PM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Member 169 | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Originally posted by Carolyn24 Thank you very much for answering my newbie question, everyone! :-) I'm going to focus on the fun of training over the next seven months by easing myself into it from now on. I tried a brick workout my first day and became so dizzy that I almost passed out in the middle of the gym. 7 months is a really REALLY long time to train for that distance even from scratch or totally out of shape. You'll be able to do that easily by the time of the race. |
2015-01-08 1:34 PM in reply to: RobGutie |
Member 159 Fairfax, VA | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Originally posted by RobGutie I had the same question about the same race. The issue that I wanted to add though is it says that the final wave starts at 8:09. That would, based on what the replies have indicated mean that if you were in the last wave you would have to finsih in 46 minutes. I am a complete novice and I believe that with training I could finish in less than 90 minutes but I dont think I could do 45 minutes. Am I missing something? My guess is that's a typo - no way they expect everyone to finish in 45 minutes. If you look at the results for that race from previous years, you can get a better idea of what reasonable times might be. |
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2015-01-08 3:20 PM in reply to: 0 |
1647 , Kronobergs lan | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Like many have said, technically you may be awarded a DNF but in yourself you will KNOW that you have finished. But like many have also said, even if you walk the run, do the bike at a what I call "I am going just down the shops speed" and the swim at a leisurely pace, you WILL finish within the 1.55 hour. My first (and only so far) race was a sort of sprint (same swimming distance as yours , double bike and run). I was not feeling too well ( anemia) so I walked the run and took it easy on both the swim and bike. I finished in 1:51. So you have some margin. And plenty of time! Edited by Rollergirl 2015-01-08 3:34 PM |
2015-01-08 3:26 PM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? A few years ago someone on this board suggested that if people are worried about cut off times then they should train more to make sure they are ready to race. It wasn't me, by the way. |
2015-01-08 4:37 PM in reply to: Carolyn24 |
Champion 7547 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? Originally posted by Carolyn24 I'm (obviously) really new and I'm still learning everything I need to learn for my first triathlon in August. According to the schedule on the Chicago SuperSprint webpage, the first wave begins at 7 AM and 8:55 AM is the "final finisher." My goal this year is to complete the triathlon. Does this schedule mean that if I do not finish by 8:55 AM that I will have failed to officially complete the triathlon? To answer the question in the subject line: Yes, triathlons have finish times. When you cross the finish line They record your time. That is your finish time! You are probably correct that they will not credit you with an "official finish" if you aren't done by 8:55 after starting at 7:00. Why do they do this? Several reasons. One is to be fair to race officials, staff, and volunteers. Could you imagine the response to asking the city for a permit to close the street for a race but you won't tell them how long the street might be closed? Another is to be fair to all participants. Imagine how volunteers might be assigned if the race directory has no estimates for finish cutoffs. You could be done and waiting for a medal and post race food being served by two overworked volunteers while 50 other volunteers are still out on the course serving one participant. Similarly, how long will you hang around to be awarded your first-place-in-division trophy if they won't start the awards until everyone is done but nobody knows how long that will be. It is also fair to you as an individual participant. You saw the information about the cutoff and you're doing the right thing, asking questions to make sure you aren't the athlete holding everyone else up. As a participant, I have a responsibility to train and prepare myself to complete the race within the allotted time. If the 1:55 cutoff makes me nervous, I'm going to train to be absolutely sure I'll finish under the limit. Lest anyone think I'm a FOP elitist who only believes the fast people should be out there racing, I'm a MOP'er. I have a lot of respect for people who still show up to race knowing that missing the cutoff is a real possibility as they're putting it all on the line every bit as much as the guys racing for first place. Go have fun training and racing! |
2015-01-08 6:48 PM in reply to: 0 |
928 | Subject: RE: Do triathlons have finish times? I think the term you are looking for is "cut-off times." Most races do have cut-off times, that is times by which you must finish each leg before continuing on to the next. This is particularly important for the swim-- you must finish the swim by certain times, after which the swim is no longer monitored by race officials (both in pools and open water swims). But many races will also have cut-off times for the bike leg, and most for the overall finish. In my experience for short races, these cut-off times are very generous. For super-sprint or other beginner-friendly short triathlons, the ones I've been in give you about 4:00/100m for the swim. So a 400m swim must be finished in a 16:00 cutoff time, 700m 28:00. Some have even longer allowances for beginners. For your race, I assume they swim waves going at different times in a rolling start, so not everyone would have the full 1:55 window to finish. Still, that's a very generous time for a super-sprint (375m swim, 10K bike, 2.5K run) and I assume you'll have no problem. Edited by jennifer_runs 2015-01-08 6:49 PM |
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