Ultra in a storm?
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2014-02-25 6:05 PM |
Pro 5361 | Subject: Ultra in a storm? I'm staring down my first 50 miler. a very tough trail run (old pueblo 50) this saturday, March 1st. Weather here has been perfect every day for the last 6 months. (not kidding). Race day weather is predicted to be in the low 50's (perfect). However: Winds 30mph gusting to 45mph. Rain.
WTF? I live in Tucson. totally not used to these kinds of conditions. Plus- I heard the RD mention at our last training run that if the course gets muddy it will be impossible. Heavy mud on shoes, slippery rocks, very dangerous. I have no idea even what kinds of clothing to wear for such conditions. I don't own a light, waterproof shell (and not even sure if I want one). I do own a wind shell for cycling that's light. heck- my running cap won't even stay on my head in that much wind. As if running 50mi wasn't stupid enough. Normally I don't mind running in light rain- but not for 12 hours. Extra chafing, heavy shoes, wind to slow you down, ??? thoughts? advice? I'm a bit scared at this point.
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2014-02-25 7:33 PM in reply to: 0 |
Queen BTich 12411 , | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? I'm not going to lie: it will suck. Mentally preparing for the worst can get you through it. IT. WILL. BE. BAD. You're looking at ALL day in those conditions. However, 'embrace the suck' and if it doesn't end up being as bad as you're preparing for, then great! (photo(12).JPG) (31902_10151591593809258_782057248_n(2).jpg) (photo(13).JPG) Attachments ---------------- photo(12).JPG (1318KB - 0 downloads) 31902_10151591593809258_782057248_n(2).jpg (68KB - 0 downloads) photo(13).JPG (127KB - 0 downloads) |
2014-02-25 7:55 PM in reply to: Comet |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? hey- how do you know about Summit Hut? (our local outdoorsy store in Tucson).
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2014-02-25 9:26 PM in reply to: morey000 |
Queen BTich 12411 , | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Originally posted by morey000 Ugh, the wind is going to be the worst. I lived in ELP for about 3 years. I've been to Tucson many times. Even bought a bike at TriSports. Summit Hut is great! hey- how do you know about Summit Hut? (our local outdoorsy store in Tucson).
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2014-02-26 8:52 AM in reply to: Comet |
Elite 3656 West Allis, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Like the robot comet said, embrace the suck. it will be the same for everyone out there so those that handle it mentally the best will have no issues. decide now that it will be fine, get the goodwill stuff like cyborg comet suggested and come pace day just keep moving!! |
2014-02-26 9:00 AM in reply to: Comet |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? I've got a nylon running vest (brooks) which I use a lot. I've also got a very thin nylon cycling jacket (which has red white and blue flames on it from TriSports- very funky!), as well as a Gore Phantom SO jacket- which is a bit warmer, with zip-off sleeves. None are water proof. I've run in the rain quite a number of times (although in Tucson, it's still not that often) and it hasn't been a problem. I just get wet. but for this race- should I go and buy a thin, waterPROOF breathable jacket of some sort as an outside layer? |
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2014-02-26 9:44 AM in reply to: 0 |
Queen BTich 12411 , | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Originally posted by morey000
but for this race- should I go and buy a thin, waterPROOF breathable jacket of some sort as an outside layer? I think you could go either way. If you don't mind spending it, then go for it. However, I think you can get by without it if you layer. You can carry the small (very cheap!) plastic poncho in your ultra pack and pull it out when you need it. It will blow in the wind (see blizzard pic), but it can act as a good barrier. I think I'd be more worried about being exposed in the wind for that long. The Buff (or similar) will help. Since it won't be cold, I'd go for an adjustable visor, that you can put tight. Run with your head down. I hate wearing glasses on trail races, I don't feel it's the safest thing for footing, but if you're used to clear cycling glasses, that might work. The good news: it's 50miles and you'll be done the same day. Think of it as 2 marathons. With conditions like this, it becomes a mental day. |
2014-02-28 5:31 PM in reply to: Comet |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Originally posted by Comet .... I hate wearing glasses on trail races, I don't feel it's the safest thing for footing, but if you're used to clear cycling glasses, that might work... I can't see without glasses, but yeah, I agree. I'd prefer to not have to wear them. Given the weather- I'll be wearing clear ones. I've stashed a few dry towels in some drop bags so I can wipe them clear, plus I sprayed them with Rain-X, which kinda' helps. Forecast hasn't changed much. Looks like strong winds and heavy rain. I bought a water resistant running shell at Fleet Feet. It's a chick's version (zipper on other side, feminine pattern on the back, sleeves really skinny so I can't pull them up), but it's all they had. Oh well. It will be in the upper 40's and mid-50's, so not terribly cold. Can go with one or two layers under as needed, with options in drop bags. Just hoping that the trail doesn't get too muddy and slippery. this time tomorrow, I'll be in a world of hurt... See ya' on the other side with a race report.
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2014-03-02 11:30 PM in reply to: morey000 |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Race report posted: I DNFed at mile 33 due to potential hypothermia. I have no regrets in my decision- it was clearly the right thing to do. The weather forecast, as bad as it sounded, was an understatement of the conditions we eventually had. It was 10 degrees colder (40-46F depending on elevation), instead of in the mid 50s And while the forecast called for 0.3-0.5 inches of rain... we got over 2 inches of rain where we were. Which, needless to say, changes the trail conditions considerably. They turned into muddy rivers. http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=511827 |
2014-03-03 6:37 AM in reply to: morey000 |
Extreme Veteran 890 Sterling | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Good go at it. Always remember DNF>DNS. Recoup and hit it hard when your' ready too. |
2014-03-03 9:20 AM in reply to: Bevie |
Queen BTich 12411 , | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Ok, let's find you one for next month or May! |
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2014-03-04 1:10 PM in reply to: Comet |
Queen BTich 12411 , | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? How far are you willing to travel? This one isn't far:
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2014-03-04 1:45 PM in reply to: Comet |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Originally posted by Comet How far are you willing to travel? This one isn't far:
thanks for the suggestions. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do next. Firstly- I need to assess where I am fitness wise. Taper, taking 2 weeks off, and racing do change where you are. I've got some rebuilding to do and I'm not confident that I could be re-ready for a 50miler in 2-1/2 weeks. I've enjoyed the trail running thing, and intend to continue, but I've got other goals. I've always wanted to do the Mount Lemmon marathon, which is coming up in about 6 weeks. And- if I have the speed (not sure how much I've lost with these slow trail runs), might want to make a BQ attempt in the spring. I've got too many other personal and family travel plans coming up, so my dreams of a 50 miler- might just have to wait. good suggestions tho'. |
2014-03-04 2:40 PM in reply to: morey000 |
Queen BTich 12411 , | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Originally posted by morey000 Originally posted by Comet How far are you willing to travel? This one isn't far:
thanks for the suggestions. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do next. Firstly- I need to assess where I am fitness wise. Taper, taking 2 weeks off, and racing do change where you are. I've got some rebuilding to do and I'm not confident that I could be re-ready for a 50miler in 2-1/2 weeks. I've enjoyed the trail running thing, and intend to continue, but I've got other goals. I've always wanted to do the Mount Lemmon marathon, which is coming up in about 6 weeks. And- if I have the speed (not sure how much I've lost with these slow trail runs), might want to make a BQ attempt in the spring. I've got too many other personal and family travel plans coming up, so my dreams of a 50 miler- might just have to wait. good suggestions tho'. I guarantee you're not as bad off as you think you are. Jealous of Mt. Lemmon! I've always wanted to do that one, but it never works out. Not even when I lived in the SW. This year, I have family visiting so I can't make the trip. So bummed. |
2014-03-04 6:01 PM in reply to: Comet |
Pro 5361 | Subject: RE: Ultra in a storm? Originally posted by Comet Jealous of Mt. Lemmon! I've always wanted to do that one, but it never works out. ... I live 6 miles from the base. I could run there, then run up it. |
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