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Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full?
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 2014-03-02 9:05 AM |
 297   Arden, North Carolina |  Subject: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full?I'm signed up for IM Louisville this year. There's a great race in my area that had always been an olympic, and it's my favorite race. Well, this year they added a Half that day so there's now a half and oly that day. I was really excited and planned to do the half because initially I was planning a late oct full IM. Well, life happened and I had to pick a new full so Louisville was the best bet. So now I'm not sure if doing the half is realistic or not. I can always do the oly, but I really wanted to do the full. I'm following the Be Iron Fit training plan and it actually calls for a much bigger weekend than the half would be. I think it's a 5 hour bike, 3 hour run, no swimming that weekend. I wouldn't be pushing as hard as I would if this were my primary race, more of a prep race for the full. But, it seems that the planned workout is much more, albeit on two different days. Based on my past performances I'd likely be doing around 2:30-45 on the bike and 2:10-2:20 on the run, so I'd be significantly under the cycling workout and a little under the running workout. I could make up the cycling miles the day after. Thoughts on this? |
| 2014-03-02 10:14 AM in reply to: TriDadinAsheville |
New user 230 penticton | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? you have a training plan with a 5h ride and 3h run on the same day???? 3 weeks out of a ironman? are you sure? |
| 2014-03-02 4:44 PM in reply to: TriDadinAsheville |
| 70 Greenville, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? Originally posted by TriDadinAsheville I'm signed up for IM Louisville this year. There's a great race in my area that had always been an olympic, and it's my favorite race. Well, this year they added a Half that day so there's now a half and oly that day. Lake Logan is my favorite race too.  I think it's great that they added a half and I was considering doing it too, but Oly Nationals is on Aug 10, so I'm not doing both. |
| 2014-03-02 5:23 PM in reply to: hotalinge |
| 70 Greenville, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? PS - I have a friend who after Lake Logan last year biked UP Lake Logan Rd to the Parkway and back down to Asheville… that might get you the miles you need! |
| 2014-03-02 6:14 PM in reply to: TriDadinAsheville |
Master 2855  Kailua, Hawaii | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? personally I wouldn't do the HIM so close to the full. truly that's your last big weekend prior to taper. so instead you will be in recovery, even though you say you won't be going full bore. however, if you do that HIM, I would suggest NOT trying to make up any lost training. let it be the start of the taper and move forward with what plan you have left. |
| 2014-03-02 6:47 PM in reply to: jonnyo |
| 297 Arden, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? Originally posted by jonnyo you have a training plan with a 5h ride and 3h run on the same day???? 3 weeks out of a ironman? are you sure? Dear god no. I said that weekend, not day. I think it's a 5 hour ride on saturday, 3 hour run on sunday. |
| 2014-03-02 6:51 PM in reply to: metafizx |
| 297 Arden, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? Originally posted by metafizx personally I wouldn't do the HIM so close to the full. truly that's your last big weekend prior to taper. so instead you will be in recovery, even though you say you won't be going full bore. however, if you do that HIM, I would suggest NOT trying to make up any lost training. let it be the start of the taper and move forward with what plan you have left. I think it's actually my first weekend after my biggest weekend. I don't have the book in front of me, but i think the week before is a 6 hour ride with a brick and a 3 hour run. I'm curious now because I'm surprised the run time wouldn't have dropped on a recovery week. But point being you're right, I think that is a recovery week. Thanks for the feedback...ugh, even if it isn't what I wanted to hear. |
| 2014-03-02 7:59 PM in reply to: TriDadinAsheville |
New user 230 penticton | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? well, then is all a matter of priority if you really put a lot of important on the ironman, you better stick to your training and no do the half if you really want to do that half ironman, use it as your last big trainign session. while it might not be as long as the training weekend, it will be at a higher intensity so training load while be a little closer. good luck |
| 2014-03-03 11:47 AM in reply to: TriDadinAsheville |
Master 2468 Muskego, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? I'm doing a half 4 weeks before my 1st full of the season. I moved my 5hr bike from the half's race week to the week before. This means that there will be a two week gap between my long (5hr +) rides instead of a single week. Won't be a problem. This half I'll be doing is with my wife and it's her first so if my IM suffers because of it, who cares. I suck anyway  |
| 2014-03-03 2:12 PM in reply to: TriDadinAsheville |
| Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? If I had to pick a race 3 weeks prior to an IM, it would be the Oly. Requires minimal taper and recovery, and I can race it all out. And I can compare the results against other Oly's (also raced all out) to get a gauge of my fitness. That is of course assuming I have already got my long stuff dialed in as far as pacing and nutrition. |
| 2014-03-03 2:56 PM in reply to: Jason N |
| 297 Arden, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? I really appreciate everyone's feedback on this. Exactly the pros and cons I was hoping to hear regarding this. I'll definitely do one of them. I've already bailed on my first Half of the season in may, so I hate to bail on another. At the same time, I have a bone to pick with this race after last year. I was having one of the best races of my life, until my calf blew up on me 1.5 mile into the run. So there is that score to settle in the oly. Just really wanted to do a half this year as well, and this one is local and cheap(relatively). We shall see, i'll be taking in all this advice and thinking about it long and hard. |
| 2014-03-03 3:14 PM in reply to: TriDadinAsheville |
Elite 3683 Whispering Pines, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Half Ironman 3 weeks before a full? In my opinion, I would not race 3 weeks out. That's either your last peak week or the start of taper. A HIM, or OLY, detract from the main goal. I also think some ppl underestimate the toll a race like that can have on your body. It takes time to recover, and that recovery just takes longer if you continue to train. I raced a HIM 4 weeks before an ironman and regretted it...and I'm pretty fit. When all was said and done, I felt like I flushed a quality week of 140.6 training down the drain. If you really want to do a HIM, race one 8+ weeks before your IM. That should give you enough time to recovery and still get in some really good peak weeks. |
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