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 2014-04-19 6:59 AM in reply to: 0 |
 631   |  Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen?FWIW there are about 20 specialized dealers in salt Lake City. OP indicates that she was leaving the city going home and getting on the freeway. I am assuming city = Salt Lake. If home is north or west of the city, it could very easily be either a mechanic or someone test riding the bike. http://www.specialized.com/us/en/dealer-locator#/?address=84101&rad... Out of those 2 I would be leaning towards mechanic. Expensive tri bike a the beginning of the season. It seems that a lot of tri riders do not work on their own bikes couple with the beginning of the season I would expect bikes to be in the shop for annual tune ups. If the bike is stolen. I would expect a thread any day either here or on slow twitch that someone had their bike stolen. Edited by Sidney Porter 2014-04-19 7:04 AM |
| 2014-04-19 7:00 AM in reply to: Sidney Porter |
Expert 1130  Fernandina Beach, FL | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Sounds like you know the area pretty well. Without knowing a SHIV had been stolen locally, I wouldn't have called. I would have been pretty irritated had I been stopped just for riding my bike home. Let's all not argue race here and ask the real question, you called because clearly the guys seat was too high, didn't you? |
| 2014-04-19 7:45 AM in reply to: KatieLimb |
| 631 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? You also have University of Utah on the Northeast side. I see college student riding nice than I expect bikes all the time. I also see them riding in non cycling clothes. Often a bike on campus is the only transportation they have. |
| 2014-04-19 8:23 AM in reply to: Sidney Porter |
Veteran 327 Plaquemine, Louisiana | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by Sidney Porter So the people that say it was good to call the police. You can honestly say that you would not be put off if you were pulled over for the way you were dressed and you age while commuting to and from work? We have people that get offended when someone waves to the and claim that it takes them out of their "zone" but they are not going mind while the officer reviews the serial numbers in the dB? I'd be pissed off as hell if someone called the cops on me for riding a bike that they think I should not have, a bike I worked for, saved money and paid for. Cause I don't fit the "type". I very much doubt the people who say they wouldn't mind wouldn't be just as pissed, its easy to say what you would do or say when it hasn't actually happened yet. Nobody wants to be falsely accused of stealing, its humiliating and insulting and embarrassing to have a big cop car stopping and questioning you about your property. Complaints would be filed with quickness. I doubt if anything would be done about it but I'd make it known. What is the "type" that gets a pass to have an expensive bike? |
| 2014-04-19 8:27 AM in reply to: jeffnboise |
| 16 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by jeffnboise Originally posted by Bscjake I'm sorry, I should have said she now feels like she was ignorant and paranoid but wants to make herself feel better by trying to justify her thinking. "I guess that is a VERY small possibility, but I doubt it. " "However, the guy riding it didn't match the bike. He was late teens, early 20s, in baggy jeans, oversized jersey, sneakers, etc, looked like a gang banger." OH NO IT'S NOT CPT AMERICA ON A BIKE MUST BE STOLEN! Sounds like some paranoid middle aged white lady being a nosey elitist. Hey, Sport/Jr./Slick/Buddy/Sonny...take your pick. You've got a post count of THREE and you come in and start running smack. Maybe you want to re-think that approach. Just my .02 To the OP-Good Call! aww you called me a noobie.. that's funny. you thought you were being clever did ya? post count has nothing to do with experience or my right to an opinion OP irked me enough to chime in. "o the OP-Good Call" in not calling the police for a complete shot in the dark because she didn't like the guys pants! YES How about we get them to care when someone gets run over by an texting SUV then move onto pulling over people just trying to their bike. |
| 2014-04-19 8:31 AM in reply to: Sidney Porter |
| Regular 194 Corona | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? I work for a utility and am in Hemet, California more often than I would like to be...nearly every day. I assume none of you know much about Hemet or have ever heard of it but it used to be a nice place. Retirement Community/Smallish Town feel southeast of Los Angeles. My Great-Grandma lived here when I was young. A few years ago the city "sold out" and accepted X amount of dollars from the State to have most convicts that were being released dropped off in Hemet. Once that happened the city went to crap. Now the area is over run with drugs, prostitution and violence. Most of the calls I get are to grow houses or meth labs and people stealing power. I ran into a buddy of mine, who is a sheriff, on my lunch break and we started chattin it up. A man rolls up on a bike. The man has tattered jeans, a t-shirt that appeared to have not been washed in days or weeks, shoes that didn't fit and he had a trash bag full of cans slung over his back. He pulled up to a trash can that was 15' away from where we were standing. The bike he was on was a new looking Felt B2. Well maintained or hardly ridden. The rear cassette looked new and the tape on the aero bars was white and very clean. It had Look pedals on it. I immediately told my buddy that bike was stolen and told him my rationalle as stated above. From what I'm observing...this man should not be riding this bike. It doesn't fit the guy or the area it was ridden in and if you check Craigslist for the Inland Empire you'll see numerous stolen bike posts. By buddy approached the man and he denied it was stolen and that he had bought it and off he went. My buddy drove down the street the guy rode down and found the bike ditched in the bushes. Later found out it was stolen and has been returned to the owner. I absolutely judged him and ciminally profiled him because the bike didn't fit. Sure...he could have been a "mechanic" but come on. I would hope that if I was riding my bike around looking like I didn't belong on it I would be stopped and questioned. That could happen here in Hemet, in Downtown LA or in SLC or Kansas for all I care and I would still make that judgement. I'm not sorry that I don't have the rose colored glasses on that some of you do. I was born and raised in a rough area of East LA as the only white kid on my block. I have a different feel for things than my cousins raised in Wyoming do. It's the way it is. If it don't fit...it aign't legit. |
| 2014-04-19 8:31 AM in reply to: DigitalRain |
| 16 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by DigitalRain What is the "type" that gets a pass to have an expensive bike? the bumbling tri noobie swerving all over the road with their bibs over their jersey and water bottles ejecting out of their butt pack and more K-tape than skin showing. |
| 2014-04-19 8:42 AM in reply to: Sidney Porter |
| 263 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by Sidney Porter Originally posted by Left Brain .....and expensive bikes get stolen all the time. I would actually think that inexpensive bikes get stolen a lot more than expensive bikes. I would think that for every $3200 that is stolen there are 32 $100 bikes stolen. Most people do a better job securing expensive bikes,. So how should the public help profile the rash of inexpensive bike thefts? Tell that to Drew Bledsoe who got his $10,000 bike stolen in the very city I live in. Expensive bikes do get stolen often... I see the reports. |
| 2014-04-19 8:47 AM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 327 Plaquemine, Louisiana | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Not long after I starting doing triathlons I went to a triathlon with my SO. He gave me his bike to ride, a gorgeous Trek TT bike, clearly an expensive bike. When we got to the race we were the only people of our "type" around. The race was small enough for folks to see we came as a couple. I did the race and when transition opened he went go collect my things for me including his bike. How about somebody "tipped" off the race officials that the he was stealing his own bike? Just him. Other folks were doing the same thing and not a care was given. I will never forget that and I'm glad he had the self control not to lose it. It made me want to stop doing races period. Edited by DigitalRain 2014-04-19 8:48 AM |
 2014-04-19 8:58 AM in reply to: DigitalRain |
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| 2014-04-19 10:05 AM in reply to: DigitalRain |
| Expert 1130 Fernandina Beach, FL | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by DigitalRain Not long after I starting doing triathlons I went to a triathlon with my SO. He gave me his bike to ride, a gorgeous Trek TT bike, clearly an expensive bike. When we got to the race we were the only people of our "type" around. The race was small enough for folks to see we came as a couple. I did the race and when transition opened he went go collect my things for me including his bike. How about somebody "tipped" off the race officials that the he was stealing his own bike? Just him. Other folks were doing the same thing and not a care was given. I will never forget that and I'm glad he had the self control not to lose it. It made me want to stop doing races period. To point out again I think it's wrong that the OP called the cops and if I were the individual on the bike I'd be pissed/embarrassed if I were stopped and questioned just based on the way I was dressed while riding my bike. That said I could absolutely see the above scenario happening. Take race and gender completely out of it. At most small races I've done if you check your bike, you retrieve your bike. I sent my dad for mine at a local race (we know most of the officials) and they wouldn't let him take it out because you had to have bib/body marking to match the bike. At WTC races he's allowed to with the proper paper work/ID. Those are the rules. Break the rules for one person and you're going to open yourself up to problems. I wasn't there, so if you were truly discriminated against, I'm sorry. There are racist people everywhere and it's disgusting. |
| 2014-04-19 10:11 AM in reply to: rjrankin83 |
| Veteran 327 Plaquemine, Louisiana | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by rjrankin83 Originally posted by DigitalRain Not long after I starting doing triathlons I went to a triathlon with my SO. He gave me his bike to ride, a gorgeous Trek TT bike, clearly an expensive bike. When we got to the race we were the only people of our "type" around. The race was small enough for folks to see we came as a couple. I did the race and when transition opened he went go collect my things for me including his bike. How about somebody "tipped" off the race officials that the he was stealing his own bike? Just him. Other folks were doing the same thing and not a care was given. I will never forget that and I'm glad he had the self control not to lose it. It made me want to stop doing races period. To point out again I think it's wrong that the OP called the cops and if I were the individual on the bike I'd be pissed/embarrassed if I were stopped and questioned just based on the way I was dressed while riding my bike. That said I could absolutely see the above scenario happening. Take race and gender completely out of it. At most small races I've done if you check your bike, you retrieve your bike. I sent my dad for mine at a local race (we know most of the officials) and they wouldn't let him take it out because you had to have bib/body marking to match the bike. At WTC races he's allowed to with the proper paper work/ID. Those are the rules. Break the rules for one person and you're going to open yourself up to problems. I wasn't there, so if you were truly discriminated against, I'm sorry. There are racist people everywhere and it's disgusting. There were other ladies and people who had their mates/family getting their items for them or with them. This was a small local race, no one was checking wristbands/race numbers. Once transition was announced as open everyone went to retrieve their items family and friends included. |
| 2014-04-19 10:21 AM in reply to: DigitalRain |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by DigitalRain Originally posted by Sidney Porter So the people that say it was good to call the police. You can honestly say that you would not be put off if you were pulled over for the way you were dressed and you age while commuting to and from work? We have people that get offended when someone waves to the and claim that it takes them out of their "zone" but they are not going mind while the officer reviews the serial numbers in the dB? I'd be pissed off as hell if someone called the cops on me for riding a bike that they think I should not have, a bike I worked for, saved money and paid for. Cause I don't fit the "type". I very much doubt the people who say they wouldn't mind wouldn't be just as pissed, its easy to say what you would do or say when it hasn't actually happened yet. Nobody wants to be falsely accused of stealing, its humiliating and insulting and embarrassing to have a big cop car stopping and questioning you about your property. Complaints would be filed with quickness. I doubt if anything would be done about it but I'd make it known. What is the "type" that gets a pass to have an expensive bike? Actually, everybody gets a pass to ride an expensive bike. It's not about "getting a pass", this is a free society, we all come and go as we please unless we are talking about areas that restricted for safety etc. And, for the record, I wouldn't want to venture a guess of how many people I have stopped for what appeared to be suspicious activity in my career.....5000? 10,000?.....it's a bunch for sure. Thankfully, it's also a larger percentage of that number who weren't actually up to no good, and they went on their way. I can easily count on one hand the number of people who were "pissed off as hell" over it once I explained the reasons for thinking they were suspicious. I also made a lot of arrests of people who were up to no good and it allowed me to advance my career to the point where I was leading investigations of the most serious crimes. In order to stop crime, you have to be willing to stand up when something doesn't look right. The deal is, you have to be able to articulate the reasons you believed crime could be afoot (yes, it's a legal term LOL ) . For me, in the instance the OP brought up, it would be as simple as no bike shoes on pedals with cleats, no helmet, baggy pants on a bike for experienced riders when I know experienced riders don't want baggy pants to get caught in the chain, etc.. I just say, "hey, let me talk to you a minute". What happens next will be completely up to the person on the bike......but if he/she blows me off the next thing out of my mouth is, "I think that bike is stolen". In every case I can remember, that caused the person on their own bike (or carrying their own bag, or driving their own car, or whatever) to stop. Some wanted to know why I thought that, others just wanted, "no, it isn't". It's a really easy thing. It has nothing to do with race, or age, or anything other than "that doesn't look right". When it comes to stealing, you can leave race, age, etc. at home....all kinds of people steal. Digital Rain - your significant other is a lot more patient with idiots than I am. And I think your points on profiling certain people because they look a certain way are valid.....in fact, I know they are. But you have to look further in this deal......it's not just about the person, it's all about the bike. That guy riding an old fat tire bike doesn't get a look. But the simple truth is.....you can find 500 people out riding a shiv TT bike, and you very likely won't find one dressed like the OP described.....that's enough to make you go hmmmmmm.
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| 2014-04-19 10:35 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 631 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by AndyEWU07 Originally posted by Sidney Porter Originally posted by Left Brain .....and expensive bikes get stolen all the time. I would actually think that inexpensive bikes get stolen a lot more than expensive bikes. I would think that for every $3200 that is stolen there are 32 $100 bikes stolen. Most people do a better job securing expensive bikes,. So how should the public help profile the rash of inexpensive bike thefts? Tell that to Drew Bledsoe who got his $10,000 bike stolen in the very city I live in. Expensive bikes do get stolen often... I see the reports. I never said expensive bikes do not get stolen I said that inexpensive bikes get stolen more often and asked how we should help the police identify those... which you have not answered. As we stated in this thread there are not many $3000 bikes out there I am not buying that they are the majority of stolen bikes. I would also think that most people don't take the time to report an inexpensive bike theft. Edited by Sidney Porter 2014-04-19 10:35 AM |
| 2014-04-19 10:44 AM in reply to: Sidney Porter |
| Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by Sidney Porter Originally posted by AndyEWU07 I never said expensive bikes do not get stolen I said that inexpensive bikes get stolen more often and asked how we should help the police identify those... which you have not answered. As we stated in this thread there are not many $3000 bikes out there I am not buying that they are the majority of stolen bikes. I would also think that most people don't take the time to report an inexpensive bike theft. Originally posted by Sidney Porter Tell that to Drew Bledsoe who got his $10,000 bike stolen in the very city I live in. Expensive bikes do get stolen often... I see the reports. Originally posted by Left Brain I would actually think that inexpensive bikes get stolen a lot more than expensive bikes. I would think that for every $3200 that is stolen there are 32 $100 bikes stolen. Most people do a better job securing expensive bikes,. So how should the public help profile the rash of inexpensive bike thefts? .....and expensive bikes get stolen all the time. The majority of stolen bikes are not expensive. The majority of cheap bikes stolen are not reported. The majority of bikes stolen are not recovered.
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| 2014-04-19 10:58 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
| Master 1858 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Sidney Porter Originally posted by AndyEWU07 I never said expensive bikes do not get stolen I said that inexpensive bikes get stolen more often and asked how we should help the police identify those... which you have not answered. As we stated in this thread there are not many $3000 bikes out there I am not buying that they are the majority of stolen bikes. I would also think that most people don't take the time to report an inexpensive bike theft. Originally posted by Sidney Porter Tell that to Drew Bledsoe who got his $10,000 bike stolen in the very city I live in. Expensive bikes do get stolen often... I see the reports. Originally posted by Left Brain I would actually think that inexpensive bikes get stolen a lot more than expensive bikes. I would think that for every $3200 that is stolen there are 32 $100 bikes stolen. Most people do a better job securing expensive bikes,. So how should the public help profile the rash of inexpensive bike thefts? .....and expensive bikes get stolen all the time. The majority of stolen bikes are not expensive. The majority of cheap bikes stolen are not reported. The majority of bikes stolen are not recovered.
Speaking of which, if you want the slightest chance of getting a stolen bike back, make sure you've got your serial numbers written down somewhere... |
| 2014-04-19 11:00 AM in reply to: JZig |
| Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by JZig Originally posted by Left Brain Speaking of which, if you want the slightest chance of getting a stolen bike back, make sure you've got your serial numbers written down somewhere... Originally posted by Sidney Porter Originally posted by AndyEWU07 I never said expensive bikes do not get stolen I said that inexpensive bikes get stolen more often and asked how we should help the police identify those... which you have not answered. As we stated in this thread there are not many $3000 bikes out there I am not buying that they are the majority of stolen bikes. I would also think that most people don't take the time to report an inexpensive bike theft. Originally posted by Sidney Porter Tell that to Drew Bledsoe who got his $10,000 bike stolen in the very city I live in. Expensive bikes do get stolen often... I see the reports. Originally posted by Left Brain I would actually think that inexpensive bikes get stolen a lot more than expensive bikes. I would think that for every $3200 that is stolen there are 32 $100 bikes stolen. Most people do a better job securing expensive bikes,. So how should the public help profile the rash of inexpensive bike thefts? .....and expensive bikes get stolen all the time. The majority of stolen bikes are not expensive. The majority of cheap bikes stolen are not reported. The majority of bikes stolen are not recovered.
Excellent point! |
| 2014-04-19 11:09 AM in reply to: DigitalRain |
| Expert 1130 Fernandina Beach, FL | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by DigitalRain Originally posted by rjrankin83 Originally posted by DigitalRain Not long after I starting doing triathlons I went to a triathlon with my SO. He gave me his bike to ride, a gorgeous Trek TT bike, clearly an expensive bike. When we got to the race we were the only people of our "type" around. The race was small enough for folks to see we came as a couple. I did the race and when transition opened he went go collect my things for me including his bike. How about somebody "tipped" off the race officials that the he was stealing his own bike? Just him. Other folks were doing the same thing and not a care was given. I will never forget that and I'm glad he had the self control not to lose it. It made me want to stop doing races period. To point out again I think it's wrong that the OP called the cops and if I were the individual on the bike I'd be pissed/embarrassed if I were stopped and questioned just based on the way I was dressed while riding my bike. That said I could absolutely see the above scenario happening. Take race and gender completely out of it. At most small races I've done if you check your bike, you retrieve your bike. I sent my dad for mine at a local race (we know most of the officials) and they wouldn't let him take it out because you had to have bib/body marking to match the bike. At WTC races he's allowed to with the proper paper work/ID. Those are the rules. Break the rules for one person and you're going to open yourself up to problems. I wasn't there, so if you were truly discriminated against, I'm sorry. There are racist people everywhere and it's disgusting. There were other ladies and people who had their mates/family getting their items for them or with them. This was a small local race, no one was checking wristbands/race numbers. Once transition was announced as open everyone went to retrieve their items family and friends included. Well I wouldn't do that race again. For you they apparently discriminated against. They might as well be inviting someone to steal a bike just letting anyone in and out of transition. Even for a local race that sounds way too relaxed. |
| 2014-04-19 11:46 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
| 631 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Sidney Porter Originally posted by AndyEWU07 I never said expensive bikes do not get stolen I said that inexpensive bikes get stolen more often and asked how we should help the police identify those... which you have not answered. As we stated in this thread there are not many $3000 bikes out there I am not buying that they are the majority of stolen bikes. I would also think that most people don't take the time to report an inexpensive bike theft. Originally posted by Sidney Porter Tell that to Drew Bledsoe who got his $10,000 bike stolen in the very city I live in. Expensive bikes do get stolen often... I see the reports. Originally posted by Left Brain I would actually think that inexpensive bikes get stolen a lot more than expensive bikes. I would think that for every $3200 that is stolen there are 32 $100 bikes stolen. Most people do a better job securing expensive bikes,. So how should the public help profile the rash of inexpensive bike thefts? .....and expensive bikes get stolen all the time. The majority of stolen bikes are not expensive. The majority of cheap bikes stolen are not reported. The majority of bikes stolen are not recovered.
What happens to expensive bikes? I would assume that they get parted out or sold out craigslist outside the area? Lets assume the bike in the OP was stolen. A bike at that cost the owner / selling store probably has the SS# and it is registered with the manufacture. If it was to turn up in the local craigslist I would think they would have a high potential to get caught assuming the owner decides to pay attention. Then again the owner is more than likely going to turn it in to insurance and give up the search after a month. |
| 2014-04-19 2:14 PM in reply to: GatorDeb |
| Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by GatorDeb Originally posted by KatieLimb It will be a long time before I post on here again. Glad you self righteous people are so much less judgemental. Originally posted by KatieLimb Thanks to those who had my back! Y'all are great! You know, you did ask people for their opinion  I don't know, it kinds stuck out with me that you started a thread asking for opinions and when you don't like the opinions you then say you're not posting again for a while. The original post was asking for people's opinion. I guess what you really wanted was to feel validated in your actions and it didn't work out that way. Happens a lot in bulletin boards. I can understand where Katie's coming from, Deb. She asked for opinions whether calling or not was the right thing, not to be attacked and called a racist or elitist. There are definitely some very biased opinions in this thread.
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| 2014-04-19 2:21 PM in reply to: DigitalRain |
| Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by DigitalRain Not long after I starting doing triathlons I went to a triathlon with my SO. He gave me his bike to ride, a gorgeous Trek TT bike, clearly an expensive bike. When we got to the race we were the only people of our "type" around. The race was small enough for folks to see we came as a couple. I did the race and when transition opened he went go collect my things for me including his bike. How about somebody "tipped" off the race officials that the he was stealing his own bike? Just him. Other folks were doing the same thing and not a care was given. I will never forget that and I'm glad he had the self control not to lose it. It made me want to stop doing races period. That really sucks, and I would never do that event again, plus I'd probably write a complaint letter to the RD and post it and the their reply online. Nobody should ever be treated the way you describe. BUT, IMHO, I think that sort of experience is preventing you from being objective about Katie's situation, because you keep referencing race. She was very clear that it had nothing to do with her questioning whether the bike was possibly stolen. Both the OP and the guy on the bike are the same race, so it's not even a factor in the situation.
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| 2014-04-19 2:23 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
| Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by DigitalRain Originally posted by Sidney Porter So the people that say it was good to call the police. You can honestly say that you would not be put off if you were pulled over for the way you were dressed and you age while commuting to and from work? We have people that get offended when someone waves to the and claim that it takes them out of their "zone" but they are not going mind while the officer reviews the serial numbers in the dB? I'd be pissed off as hell if someone called the cops on me for riding a bike that they think I should not have, a bike I worked for, saved money and paid for. Cause I don't fit the "type". I very much doubt the people who say they wouldn't mind wouldn't be just as pissed, its easy to say what you would do or say when it hasn't actually happened yet. Nobody wants to be falsely accused of stealing, its humiliating and insulting and embarrassing to have a big cop car stopping and questioning you about your property. Complaints would be filed with quickness. I doubt if anything would be done about it but I'd make it known. What is the "type" that gets a pass to have an expensive bike? Actually, everybody gets a pass to ride an expensive bike. It's not about "getting a pass", this is a free society, we all come and go as we please unless we are talking about areas that restricted for safety etc. And, for the record, I wouldn't want to venture a guess of how many people I have stopped for what appeared to be suspicious activity in my career.....5000? 10,000?.....it's a bunch for sure. Thankfully, it's also a larger percentage of that number who weren't actually up to no good, and they went on their way. I can easily count on one hand the number of people who were "pissed off as hell" over it once I explained the reasons for thinking they were suspicious. I also made a lot of arrests of people who were up to no good and it allowed me to advance my career to the point where I was leading investigations of the most serious crimes. In order to stop crime, you have to be willing to stand up when something doesn't look right. The deal is, you have to be able to articulate the reasons you believed crime could be afoot (yes, it's a legal term LOL ) . For me, in the instance the OP brought up, it would be as simple as no bike shoes on pedals with cleats, no helmet, baggy pants on a bike for experienced riders when I know experienced riders don't want baggy pants to get caught in the chain, etc.. I just say, "hey, let me talk to you a minute". What happens next will be completely up to the person on the bike......but if he/she blows me off the next thing out of my mouth is, "I think that bike is stolen". In every case I can remember, that caused the person on their own bike (or carrying their own bag, or driving their own car, or whatever) to stop. Some wanted to know why I thought that, others just wanted, "no, it isn't". It's a really easy thing. It has nothing to do with race, or age, or anything other than "that doesn't look right". When it comes to stealing, you can leave race, age, etc. at home....all kinds of people steal. Digital Rain - your significant other is a lot more patient with idiots than I am. And I think your points on profiling certain people because they look a certain way are valid.....in fact, I know they are. But you have to look further in this deal......it's not just about the person, it's all about the bike. That guy riding an old fat tire bike doesn't get a look. But the simple truth is.....you can find 500 people out riding a shiv TT bike, and you very likely won't find one dressed like the OP described.....that's enough to make you go hmmmmmm.
Well said!
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| 2014-04-19 2:41 PM in reply to: KatieLimb |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen?
It’s ok! He was probable a Triathlete done with his workout and making a beer run. I mean who wants to walk into a beer store wearing lycra. |
| 2014-04-19 3:26 PM in reply to: TriMyBest |
| 16 | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by TriMyBest BUT, IMHO, I think that sort of experience is preventing you from being objective about Katie's situation, because you keep referencing race. She was very clear that it had nothing to do with her questioning whether the bike was possibly stolen. Both the OP and the guy on the bike are the same race, so it's not even a factor in the situation. Judging someone by the clothes they are wearing and how they look and treating them like a 2nd class citizen is not much better. calling them a gangbanger and a thief with zero information. Hell if she has kids I bet some of their friends at school could look like that guy. Tattoos, piercings and baggy clothes are popular styles.. it's funny when people get older they forget that they had styles their parents hated/were paranoid about. But Katie is much better than everyone apparently. |
| 2014-04-19 3:50 PM in reply to: Bscjake |
| Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: What would you think? Stolen? Originally posted by Bscjake Originally posted by TriMyBest BUT, IMHO, I think that sort of experience is preventing you from being objective about Katie's situation, because you keep referencing race. She was very clear that it had nothing to do with her questioning whether the bike was possibly stolen. Both the OP and the guy on the bike are the same race, so it's not even a factor in the situation. Judging someone by the clothes they are wearing and how they look and treating them like a 2nd class citizen is not much better. calling them a gangbanger and a thief with zero information. Hell if she has kids I bet some of their friends at school could look like that guy. Tattoos, piercings and baggy clothes are popular styles.. it's funny when people get older they forget that they had styles their parents hated/were paranoid about. But Katie is much better than everyone apparently. You might want to read LB's post that I quoted. The issue that makes the person described by Katie in the OP suspicious isn't the style of their clothing or their image. It's the fact that they are dressed inappropriately to be riding a triathlon bike and overall in a way that is extremely rare to see. No helmet or clipless shoes, and baggy pants that can get caught in the chain? Forget about the other comments about tattoos, piercings, and looking "like a gang banger", and what left is odd enough that I would definitely wonder what the deal was.
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