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 2014-06-17 10:49 AM in reply to: Caroleena |
 34  Cary, North Carolina |  Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type?I am big and heavy.... Fly down hills, not too bad on flats, but feel every pound up hills! |
| 2014-06-17 11:32 AM in reply to: Sweating_it_off |
Regular 1161  Hamilton, IL | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? <-------- take a look to the left. Now take 10lbs of fat out of the middle and add like 11.2lbs of muscles to the legs and 3.8lbs of muscles to the arms/shoulders/back. |
| 2014-06-17 11:30 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Speaking of body types... how did Frodeno Jr make out in track? |
| 2014-06-17 11:39 PM in reply to: jennifer_runs |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Michelle Jones was a totally different build but remains the only woman to have won an Olympic medal, ITU title, & Kona. |
| 2014-06-18 7:34 AM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Champion 19812  MA | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? I descend well and do better descending even against folks my size. I think descending is quite a few things, bike fit, being comfortable, being aero, and being confident descending. I did this ride with mostly roadie types that was lots of long climbs and descents. I was with a BT friend who was a more timid than I descending so I would go ahead and then slow pedal at the bottom of the hill...these were nice long descents that were awesome. I didn't know it but there was this guy trying to catch me on this one descent, I wasn't pedaling and he was trying to catch me, but he didn't until I soft pedaled waiting for my friend. At next rest stop he commented about my descending....I have heard it from others as well. We can only do so much to change our body type, but goal is to do the best riding and racing with what you have. Most triathletes ride up hills to hard and to easy down hills. Folks who get a power meters are always always surprised at how much power varies. |
| 2014-06-18 9:18 AM in reply to: Fred D |
| Veteran 379 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by Fred D OrigI'd say Chrissie Wellington = the perfect tri body. Might want to do a little research on Chrissie. Fantastic athlete, for sure... Not sure I agree that her body type should be emulated...  you might want to do a little research of your own. if you are referring to her admission that she had some eating disorder issues, that was not in her racing days - and if it was, then she is truly the perfect specimen of perfect body type if she could crush her competition and most of the men despite being in the midst of an eating disorder. also, an eating disorder is not readily discernable from looking at someone's body - unless they are severally anorexic. again, if she was severally anorexic, which has never been the case, then she was even more amazing with her perfect body type if you are referring to the allegations of doping, there have also been allegations of that Rinny dopes year round. that's a different, and ridiculous issue separate from body type. regardless, the point is Rinny is diminutive (and very skinny compared to most of us but not other tri greats), while Chrissie is 5'7" (and very skinny compared to most of us but not other tri greats) = there is no specific body type that is the perfect tri body. on the other hand, riding bikes all over Nepal for fun certainly had more to do with her athletic ability. |
| 2014-06-18 9:19 AM in reply to: Sweating_it_off |
| Veteran 379 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by Sweating_it_off I am big and heavy.... Fly down hills, not too bad on flats, but feel every pound up hills! that just means it is easier for you to go down hill v. up. does not mean you have a competitive advantage over your thinner counterparts if the race was all downhill. |
| 2014-06-18 10:07 AM in reply to: sheesleeva |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by sheesleeva Originally posted by Fred D you might want to do a little research of your own. if you are referring to her admission that she had some eating disorder issues, that was not in her racing days - and if it was, then she is truly the perfect specimen of perfect body type if she could crush her competition and most of the men despite being in the midst of an eating disorder. also, an eating disorder is not readily discernable from looking at someone's body - unless they are severally anorexic. again, if she was severally anorexic, which has never been the case, then she was even more amazing with her perfect body type if you are referring to the allegations of doping, there have also been allegations of that Rinny dopes year round. that's a different, and ridiculous issue separate from body type. regardless, the point is Rinny is diminutive (and very skinny compared to most of us but not other tri greats), while Chrissie is 5'7" (and very skinny compared to most of us but not other tri greats) = there is no specific body type that is the perfect tri body. on the other hand, riding bikes all over Nepal for fun certainly had more to do with her athletic ability. OrigI'd say Chrissie Wellington = the perfect tri body. Might want to do a little research on Chrissie. Fantastic athlete, for sure... Not sure I agree that her body type should be emulated... Fred's just a hater. |
| 2014-06-18 11:38 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
| 358 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? My last race I got into a bit of a duel with a stocky guy and we'd swap positions depending on if we were climbing or descending. I'd pass easily going uphill and he'd come right around me on the next downslope. About a half mile from T2 I let him go knowing I'd pass him on the run. And I did about a half mile into it. |
| 2014-06-18 11:43 AM in reply to: Caroleena |
Member 522 Saint Paul, MN | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Not mine. |
| 2014-06-18 12:58 PM in reply to: sheesleeva |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by sheesleeva if you are referring to the allegations of doping, there have also been allegations of ... Nobody has made allegations of doping. Yet you managed to associate 2 world champions to it. Not cool. |
| 2014-06-18 1:28 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by sheesleeva/QUOTE] you might want to do a little research of your own. if you are referring to her admission that she had some eating disorder issues, that was not in her racing days - and if it was, then she is truly the perfect specimen of perfect body type if she could crush her competition and most of the men despite being in the midst of an eating disorder. also, an eating disorder is not readily discernable from looking at someone's body - unless they are severally anorexic. again, if she was severally anorexic, which has never been the case, then she was even more amazing with her perfect body type if you are referring to the allegations of doping, there have also been allegations of that Rinny dopes year round. that's a different, and ridiculous issue separate from body type. regardless, the point is Rinny is diminutive (and very skinny compared to most of us but not other tri greats), while Chrissie is 5'7" (and very skinny compared to most of us but not other tri greats) = there is no specific body type that is the perfect tri body. on the other hand, riding bikes all over Nepal for fun certainly had more to do with her athletic ability. Care to point us in the direction of such research to back up the doping allegations you speak of? As to the second bolded...I think we can agree on that. Edited by Jason N 2014-06-18 1:29 PM |
| 2014-06-18 1:55 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Gwen Jorgensen looks perfect. And Lauren Goss. And Emma Moffatt. And Erin Densham. And Maria Sharapova. |
| 2014-06-18 2:00 PM in reply to: Goosedog |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? |
| 2014-06-18 2:44 PM in reply to: Caroleena |
| 18 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? It depends on the course and race distance. For Sprints, light, lean, moderately tall. Bascially a good 10k runner that can swim and bike. i.e. Gomez, Brownless, Gwen Jorgensen. For long course, there's 2 athletes: Long tall, powerful - Caroline Steffen, Chrissie Wellington. Chrissie was just an animal... but overall they are best on flatter courses or cooler races. Smaller, high P/W ratio, but still muscular and not unusually lean - Rinny, Rachel Joyce - best in hot, hilly or moderately hilly courses. Hot/humid is important because taller racers don't manage heat as well. I had the luck and privileged to pace her for 6 miles at my last 70.3 and followed her on her last 5k (my first loop). She's very muscular, not as short as I thought, lean but not super lean, but just runs effortlessly. For the men it's a little different, since the top pros are all so powerful. You can be a bike or a run specialist and still do very well on long course. That being said, once Gomez "retires" form ITU, I think he'll dominate long course. Ultimately, you need to be a fast runner. Starky will never win with a world championship in a hot/humid or hilly course... ie Kona. But he could manage a podium. I think in summary, there's nothing perfect. You simply need a great all around package. You can;t be too weak at any of the 3 disciplines to do well. |
| 2014-06-18 2:48 PM in reply to: motoguy128 |
| 18 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? If you fast on uphills and slow on downhills... there's a couple possibilities (or combination) 1) Your not pacing evenly and going uphill too fast 2) You aerodynamics suck 3) You power to weight ratio is equal or better yet your are a little heavier than the other person. All things being equal, the heavier rider goes faster downhill, but aero makes up for a lot. Of all the people I passed at Kansas 70.3 (I was a later wave), I'd say more than 50% were going too fast uphill. |
| 2014-06-18 3:20 PM in reply to: 0 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by motoguy128 If you fast on uphills and slow on downhills... there's a couple possibilities (or combination) 1) Your not pacing evenly and going uphill too fast 2) You aerodynamics suck 3) You power to weight ratio is equal or better yet your are a little heavier than the other person. All things being equal, the heavier rider goes faster downhill, but aero makes up for a lot. Of all the people I passed at Kansas 70.3 (I was a later wave), I'd say more than 50% were going too fast uphill. I think you're leaving off an important factor - discomfort on technical descents or generally with high speeds. I have this problem on my road bike and it's not because I'm going uphill too fast. That's not even to mention a stereotypical age groupers discomfort in aero (away from their brakes) on descents. Sitting up on your hoods on the downhills sort of destroys all that aero focus. But this is a silly tangent from the good direction Left Brain had this thread heading. Edited by Goosedog 2014-06-18 3:22 PM |
| 2014-06-18 4:03 PM in reply to: Goosedog |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by Goosedog Originally posted by motoguy128 If you fast on uphills and slow on downhills... there's a couple possibilities (or combination) 1) Your not pacing evenly and going uphill too fast 2) You aerodynamics suck 3) You power to weight ratio is equal or better yet your are a little heavier than the other person. All things being equal, the heavier rider goes faster downhill, but aero makes up for a lot. Of all the people I passed at Kansas 70.3 (I was a later wave), I'd say more than 50% were going too fast uphill. I think you're leaving off an important factor - discomfort on technical descents or generally with high speeds. I have this problem on my road bike and it's not because I'm going uphill too fast. That's not even to mention a stereotypical age groupers discomfort in aero (away from their brakes) on descents. Sitting up on your hoods on the downhills sort of destroys all that aero focus. But this is a silly tangent from the good direction Left Brain had this thread heading. Dude....some people just can't have nice things. |
| 2014-06-18 9:03 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Originally posted by Left Brain These....
Where did you get my picture from? And here is the absolute perfect type. (393__pic1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 393__pic1.jpg (38KB - 5 downloads) |
| 2014-06-19 4:08 AM in reply to: jobaxas |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? …and you know they always told Macca he was too big to win an ironman especially kona…. |
| 2014-06-19 10:46 AM in reply to: jobaxas |
Master 8247 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Wow--I recently stood next to Macca (YESS!) for a picture and he is NOT a big guy at all. Couple inches taller than me and very lean. I think you mainly notice the muscle on the pros, esp. the guys, because of their low body fat, not because they're super buff. One "Ironwoman" told me I probably didn't have enough "reserve" for iron distance. At 5'7" and 115 pounds, I do look more like a marathoner, but somehow I think this isn't right! I'll admit I don't have the ideal physique for speed on the bike at any distance, but I think she needs to lose a few stereotypes--with a good ability to figure out nutrition, keep putting the calories away, and keep them down, why on earth would I not be able to finish an IM if I put my mind to it? I'm sure I outweigh Rinny and Rachel Joyce, among others, and they seem to manage okay. |
| 2014-06-19 12:53 PM in reply to: 0 |
| 34 Cary, North Carolina | Subject: RE: perfect triathlete body type? Yeah believe me, I am not boasting of any advantages! Most of my slimmer friends are faster than me on all grades. Edited by Sweating_it_off 2014-06-19 12:58 PM |
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