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2014-07-07 10:56 AM

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Subject: Who had the over/under on Manziel being the next Ryan Leaf?


2014-07-07 11:02 AM
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How glad am I that I grew up in a time without cellphone cameras?  And not in the public eye. And with guidance, expectations, and responsibility from my parents. 

2014-07-07 2:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Who had the over/under on Manziel being the next Ryan Leaf?

Can the over under be negative?  ;-)

The only difference is Manziel has more talent than Leaf, but if he doesn't continue to work hard on developing and maintaining that talent he'll get smoked before the season is halfway through.

I wonder what kind of clauses he has in his contract about his off field antics.  I know the contract had guaranteed $6.7M, but if he winds up in jail I'm sure there's an out.  No matter how much they pay him, there's a good chance he'll be homeless and broke in 10 years tops.

 

2014-07-07 2:47 PM
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Originally posted by cdban66

How glad am I that I grew up in a time without cellphone cameras?  And not in the public eye. And with guidance, expectations, and responsibility from my parents. 

Not to mention it's probably illegal to take a picture of some dude in the bathroom.  Reasonable expectation of privacy and all.  

2014-07-07 4:55 PM
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What a waste.
Dude was born with a silver spoon up his rear, and he won the genetic lottery to boot.
  • ..and now it looks like he'll pizz it all away. Very sad.

  • Why do I get the feeling this story's got a good shot of ending like Bad Company's "Shooting Star?"
    Different Johnny...kinda similar though.


    2014-08-19 8:30 AM
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    Aaaaaand it just keeps getting better and better...

    http://deadspin.com/johnny-manziel-is-number-one-1623775624

     

    Klassie.



    2014-08-19 9:01 AM
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    Really...this is news. What, riots slowing down?

    2014-08-19 9:09 AM
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    Originally posted by powerman

    Really...this is news. What, riots slowing down?

    Why can't we talk about both?  I'm able to consider both.  Besides, this is COJ.  You want real news, go over to the other one.  

    2014-08-19 9:13 AM
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    I always enjoy reading the comments more than the article.

    My favorite:

    it was hilarious, and honestly if you are making your kid watch the redskins-browns preseason game, you're a sh***y parent and your kid is doomed anyways....

    2014-08-19 9:16 AM
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    Wowowowow that is one incriminating photo. Some dude that could be anyone, holding a bill in front of a mirror. The sheer madness of having cash in hand while in Vegas is mind boggling.
    2014-08-19 9:31 AM
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    Originally posted by mdg2003 Wowowowow that is one incriminating photo. Some dude that could be anyone, holding a bill in front of a mirror. The sheer madness of having cash in hand while in Vegas is mind boggling.

    There is absolutely no reason to roll a bill... except....

     

    I don't mean to be pissy... I guess there is no Tebow to talk about, so it is going to be Johnny Football 24/7 for the next 6 months. Can't wait to hear about his next bowel movement. Man... I think I miss Tebow....

     



    2014-08-19 9:35 AM
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    Originally posted by powerman

    Originally posted by mdg2003 Wowowowow that is one incriminating photo. Some dude that could be anyone, holding a bill in front of a mirror. The sheer madness of having cash in hand while in Vegas is mind boggling.

    There is absolutely no reason to roll a bill... except....

     

    I don't mean to be pissy... I guess there is no Tebow to talk about, so it is going to be Johnny Football 24/7 for the next 6 months. Can't wait to hear about his next bowel movement. Man... I think I miss Tebow....

     

    BTW, that original one is from earlier in the summer.  And there is one of these every year.  

    2014-08-19 9:49 AM
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    Probably just tipping the restroom attendant. When he starts partying shirtless with Bieber, I give him two years max before he fades back into the piney woods of east Texas.
    2014-08-19 12:12 PM
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    The thought crossed my mind that his career might be as long as Tebow's. 

    I think he is a better QB than Tebow, but all his shenanigans just might be too much for teams to deal with and can't find a spot after a couple years.

    2014-08-19 1:19 PM
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    I think you're giving Manziel way too much credit by comparing him to Leaf.  

    Keep in mind we're talking about a guy who was passed up by 20+ other teams.  Including Cleveland...TWICE.  He's a joke.  He's always been a joke.  Jokes are funny though, and I will continue to watch and be entertained.

    2014-08-19 1:32 PM
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    The interesting thing to me about this Tebow, Leaf, and Manziel discussion is however limited Tebow was on talent he made up for it with attitude and work ethic. He appreciated the huge opportunity and behaved accordingly. Now he's got a TV gig that could lead to a very lucrative career. Leaf's in jail and who knows where the Manziel  train wreck will end up.



    2014-08-19 1:43 PM
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    Originally posted by zed707

    The interesting thing to me about this Tebow, Leaf, and Manziel discussion is however limited Tebow was on talent he made up for it with attitude and work ethic. He appreciated the huge opportunity and behaved accordingly. Now he's got a TV gig that could lead to a very lucrative career. Leaf's in jail and who knows where the Manziel  train wreck will end up.

    We may not know, but unfortunately we have a pretty good idea. Sadly enough, I think I've seen this movie before...

    2014-08-19 3:04 PM
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    Originally posted by Jason N

    I think you're giving Manziel way too much credit by comparing him to Leaf.  

    Keep in mind we're talking about a guy who was passed up by 20+ other teams.  Including Cleveland...TWICE.  He's a joke.  He's always been a joke.  Jokes are funny though, and I will continue to watch and be entertained.




    Exactly.
    I will say he's entertaining as heck though.
    How 'bout that middle finger to the Redskins sideline? His "cash phone" just got a little slimmer.

    Here's the thing though...all the nonsense won't matter if he can hit receivers consistently. He's got the legs. If he's got an accurate arm, nobody will care about the "look at me" antics.

    2014-08-19 3:08 PM
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    Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy
    Originally posted by Jason N

    I think you're giving Manziel way too much credit by comparing him to Leaf.  

    Keep in mind we're talking about a guy who was passed up by 20+ other teams.  Including Cleveland...TWICE.  He's a joke.  He's always been a joke.  Jokes are funny though, and I will continue to watch and be entertained.

    Exactly. I will say he's entertaining as heck though. How 'bout that middle finger to the Redskins sideline? His "cash phone" just got a little slimmer. Here's the thing though...all the nonsense won't matter if he can hit receivers consistently. He's got the legs. If he's got an accurate arm, nobody will care about the "look at me" antics.

    Right now that is the BIG IF!.  He looked horrible last night.

    2014-08-19 6:26 PM
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    Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy
    Originally posted by Jason N

    I think you're giving Manziel way too much credit by comparing him to Leaf.  

    Keep in mind we're talking about a guy who was passed up by 20+ other teams.  Including Cleveland...TWICE.  He's a joke.  He's always been a joke.  Jokes are funny though, and I will continue to watch and be entertained.

    Exactly. I will say he's entertaining as heck though. How 'bout that middle finger to the Redskins sideline? His "cash phone" just got a little slimmer. Here's the thing though...all the nonsense won't matter if he can hit receivers consistently. He's got the legs. If he's got an accurate arm, nobody will care about the "look at me" antics.

    You're right in a sense that teams will put up with antics if you can still produce on the field...of course if you don't have a better option to choose from, which Cleveland doesn't really have right now.  I actually hope Manziel starts, and has some success this season because it is fun to watch.  I know he'll never have the type of success that some people hope he will (franchise QB).  But defenders can't light him up if he's on the bench...so yeah...I want to see him on the field.  

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    Tebow's work ethic and attitude didn't make up for hus lack of talent. They made him someone you kind of felt sorry for, sort of, for about 5 minutes but did nothing to over come his lack of talent. He was awful.

    -- a Jets fan


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    I'm a Manziel fan....you only get to be young and stupid once....and I like the little guy.  That being said, he's got more lessons to learn, but there is no doubt the kid is a gamer.  I like those guys.  I'm hoping he makes it.  (no, I won't bet the farm)

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    Flipping the Bird is the Word! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPrtFxd9u9Y

    Lot of talent , but not much of a brain.....
    2014-08-20 8:10 AM
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    As a Browns fan I am rooting for him. I think he is really something to watch on the field, he's exciting something us Cleveland fans have been lacking for quite a while. This morning it has been announced that he will not start the opener. I could see him being thrown in after their bye in week 4 if they are 0 - 3 or 1 - 2. I hope that he proves a lot of people wrong and can right the ship here for us Browns fans, its been a long time coming. I also hope he excels so I can have a little confidence in those putting this team together. We haven't had that here in over 20 years either.
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    Originally posted by Its Only Money As a Browns fan I am rooting for him. I think he is really something to watch on the field, he's exciting something us Cleveland fans have been lacking for quite a while. This morning it has been announced that he will not start the opener. I could see him being thrown in after their bye in week 4 if they are 0 - 3 or 1 - 2. I hope that he proves a lot of people wrong and can right the ship here for us Browns fans, its been a long time coming. I also hope he excels so I can have a little confidence in those putting this team together. We haven't had that here in over 20 years either.

    Really... you had excitement 20 years ago? 

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