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Ran a bit right after riding, Geez!
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 2014-07-11 12:29 AM |
 127   , Louisiana |  Subject: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez!Up to this point all my riding swimming and running have been separated by at least a couple hours or a day. I usually do 2 things each day, a swim and a ride or a swim and a run. Today, Did 21 miles on the bike, at a 19 mph, which is a good clip for me ( just started riding a month ago, and today was the end of the 6 weeks post hernia surgery, Doc told me to take it easy), put the bike on my carrier and switched shoes, maybe 3 minutes have gone by and I tried to run. I felt like I had tree trunks for legs. The legs felt great, like I could squat 600 lbs, but they did not want to go anywhere fast. This must be the reason behind practicing the transitions. Is this a normal feeling and will I get better. Because my run time is going to be really bad. Should I have training days where I put all three together? Do a Tri in training? |
| 2014-07-11 5:29 AM in reply to: 0 |
| Subject: RE: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez! Yes, it's normal. Unless you're doing stupid long sessions, the only reason to do bricks is to get used to the dead leg feeling. That said, doing a home grown tri is a good way to get an idea what it's all going to feel like prior to race day. (edit)Now you have an idea of how good the people at Kona are actually when they run 6 minute miles after the bike  Edited by DanielG 2014-07-11 5:30 AM |
| 2014-07-11 5:32 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 2447 Marietta, Ga | Subject: RE: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez! Yes, quite normal to have jelly legs when transitioning from bike to run. Both transitions bring discomfort, but I've always thought this was the hardest transition to make, much more so than the swim to bike. I'm not sure about having "tri" training sessions, but a I believe "bricks" (bike and run workouts) are fairly regular part of triathlon training. I say that because the swim is not fairly represented among the three, it is quite short in duration compared to the run and bike. And, swim to bike utilizes two wholly different sets of muscles. For those reasons, swim training and bricks are usually sufficient preparation for your first triathlon. Edited by Motivated 2014-07-11 5:34 AM |
| 2014-07-11 6:28 AM in reply to: jareed58 |
Extreme Veteran 5722  | Subject: RE: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez! Originally posted by jareed58 I felt like I had tree trunks for legs. The legs felt great, like I could squat 600 lbs, but they did not want to go anywhere fast. You may be surprised. What feels really slow isn't always so. Time yourself at one point. One problem some people have is they feel they are going slow, they are not and the overcook the first part of the run, especially for longer distance. One advantage of doing bricks is you get used to the feeling and what feels "normal" |
| 2014-07-11 7:50 AM in reply to: marcag |
Expert 1644 Oklahoma | Subject: RE: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez! Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by jareed58 I felt like I had tree trunks for legs. The legs felt great, like I could squat 600 lbs, but they did not want to go anywhere fast. You may be surprised. What feels really slow isn't always so. Time yourself at one point. One problem some people have is they feel they are going slow, they are not and the overcook the first part of the run, especially for longer distance. One advantage of doing bricks is you get used to the feeling and what feels "normal" This ^^ On long course events I always have to pay close attention to my watch to make sure I'm keeping my pace down for about the first 1.5mi. That being said I don't think bricks are very beneficial in training except maybe a couple real short bricks leading up to a race to work on getting your T2 time down. |
| 2014-07-11 8:52 AM in reply to: EKH |
Member 1004 | Subject: RE: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez! I do a few bricks in the couple of weeks before a race. It doesn't feel nearly so hard after doing a few of them. Also, I found that getting a smooth, relaxed swing with my arms when I start the run helps me get over the heavy feeling quicker. |
| 2014-07-11 10:23 PM in reply to: b2run |
| 127 , Louisiana | Subject: RE: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez! I did a run again today after a 25 mile ride and, you are right, what seems slow, ended up at the top end of my run training pace, not race pace but pretty close. Amazing, and the longer I went the easier it seem to get. |
| 2014-07-12 3:13 PM in reply to: #5024304 |
| Member 27 davenport, iowa | Subject: RE: Ran a bit right after riding, Geez! Marcaq hits the nail on the head. After transition my first mile is always crazy fast and its hard to settle into a good pace because of the dead legs feeling. I almost always over correct and definitely don't to enough brick work. Time yourself for sure. |
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