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 2014-07-17 9:22 AM |
Veteran  2842     Austin, Texas |  Subject: Coaching booksI want to get BT's current take on this, as I've been sensing that the resources I've been using (and shall remain nameless) might be dated in their thinking. What are the best books out there right now for helping a self-coached triathlete? My particular interest is toward the pointy end, not so much starting in the sport (although comments on that would be very welcome here on BT, of course!). I know the cannons of the sport and the usual suspects, but is there a really fresh, sound guide out there for training up to crush it? What do you like??? Matt (and I probably have most of what's out there, but you don't know what you don't know, you know?) |
| 2014-07-17 9:31 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Coaching books IMO the best books for a self coached athlete are Dr Phil Skiba's, both available at http://www.physfarm.com. Scientific Training for Triathletes and Triathletes Guide to Training with Power They are both far superior to any other resources available (if you want to build and understand the why of your training plan). It helps if you have GPS for running and power for the bike but you can do it without both of these. While the books are written at a very understandable level for most, they are well referenced so you can dig deeper if you desire. If you are looking for a training plan to be spelled out, these are not the books for you; something like Fitzgerald's book of plans is a better resource for plans. Shane |
| 2014-07-17 9:32 AM in reply to: gsmacleod |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Coaching books Originally posted by gsmacleod IMO the best books for a self coached athlete are Dr Phil Skiba's, both available at http://www.physfarm.com. Scientific Training for Triathletes and Triathletes Guide to Training with Power They are both far superior to any other resources available (if you want to build and understand the why of your training plan). It helps if you have GPS for running and power for the bike but you can do it without both of these. While the books are written at a very understandable level for most, they are well referenced so you can dig deeper if you desire. If you are looking for a training plan to be spelled out, these are not the books for you; something like Fitzgerald's book of plans is a better resource for plans. Shane x2 on Skiba's. |
| 2014-07-17 10:00 AM in reply to: #5026904 |
| 59 | Subject: RE: Coaching books Total Immersion has been awesome for swimming |
| 2014-07-17 11:16 AM in reply to: 0 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Coaching books x 3 on skiba x 2 on total immersion as a background (ie the book is outdated, ie, not how we currently teach, but the perspectives are still fresh if that makes sense) X1 training and racing with a power meter x1 Cutting edge cycling does a good job of clarifying some myths and providing evidence for various less understood topics to the OP, if you are well read, many books will be repetitions, but keep an open mind for for nuggets of fresh info. If you have access to published studies that's a great way to obviously screen for new findings and work them in to what you know already Edited by AdventureBear 2014-07-17 11:16 AM |
| 2014-07-17 11:53 AM in reply to: gsmacleod |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Coaching books Originally posted by gsmacleod IMO the best books for a self coached athlete are Dr Phil Skiba's, both available at http://www.physfarm.com.Scientific Training for Triathletes and Triathletes Guide to Training with Power They are both far superior to any other resources available (if you want to build and understand the why of your training plan). It helps if you have GPS for running and power for the bike but you can do it without both of these. While the books are written at a very understandable level for most, they are well referenced so you can dig deeper if you desire. If you are looking for a training plan to be spelled out, these are not the books for you; something like Fitzgerald's book of plans is a better resource for plans. Shane Was going to say these books and point this out as well. Skiba's books are very good on the theory behind what the workouts are doing and more broad ideas of training theology. There are workouts in there, but the intents of the books are to aspects of training. As in the thought process for why various workouts are selected. The workouts stated are more for explanatory purposes as opposed to being in a plan format. |
| 2014-07-18 8:59 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Coaching books Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by gsmacleod IMO the best books for a self coached athlete are Dr Phil Skiba's, both available at http://www.physfarm.com.Scientific Training for Triathletes and Triathletes Guide to Training with Power They are both far superior to any other resources available (if you want to build and understand the why of your training plan). It helps if you have GPS for running and power for the bike but you can do it without both of these. While the books are written at a very understandable level for most, they are well referenced so you can dig deeper if you desire. If you are looking for a training plan to be spelled out, these are not the books for you; something like Fitzgerald's book of plans is a better resource for plans. Shane Was going to say these books and point this out as well. Skiba's books are very good on the theory behind what the workouts are doing and more broad ideas of training theology. There are workouts in there, but the intents of the books are to aspects of training. As in the thought process for why various workouts are selected. The workouts stated are more for explanatory purposes as opposed to being in a plan format. The first couple go rounds with trying to plan for races I did, indeed, use books with plans in them - to varying levels of success. But the last couple, I've been planning my training based on how my (ever older) body responded to those suggested blocks. I'm now looking for something that sounds more like Skiba, and have been using GPS and a PM for the serious training blocks (unlike my current effort to just get out and train at least SOME of the time!), so I look forward to picking up the suggested books I don't yet have and trying to figure it out! It's a big jump, though, to go from tinkering with a prescribed plan to setting up a season long plan on one's own. Should be fun, though! (and here I will say that I know it would be quicker, easier - and maybe even healthier! - to have a coach help out with the process. The struggle is part of the fun for me, at the moment - at least until I'm fast enough that the time is more important to me… but that could be a while!). For the coaches, if you're willing to share a window into how one becomes a coach, how did you make the jump to putting together seasonal plans for your athletes? Did you first work more with a single race focus and expand? Did you have your own coach to help you become a coach? Just curious how you approached what I see as something of a chasm... Thanks all for the input! Matt |
| 2014-07-18 2:29 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Coaching books Adding on to what the others have posted, once you've got the concepts down, it's time to design training sessions. Rather than reinvent the wheel, it can help to take sessions already designed by someone else, and adapt them for your needs. For this, I like to use: Run Workouts For Runners and Triathletes in a binder by Bobby McGee Workouts in a Binder for Swimmers, Triathletes, and Coaches by Nick Hansen and Eric Hansen Swim Workouts for Triathletes in a binder by Gale Bernhardt & Nick Hansen Swim Speed Workouts for Swimmers and Triathletes by Sheila Taormina
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| 2014-07-18 2:40 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Coaching books Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by gsmacleod IMO the best books for a self coached athlete are Dr Phil Skiba's, both available at http://www.physfarm.com.Scientific Training for Triathletes and Triathletes Guide to Training with Power They are both far superior to any other resources available (if you want to build and understand the why of your training plan). It helps if you have GPS for running and power for the bike but you can do it without both of these. While the books are written at a very understandable level for most, they are well referenced so you can dig deeper if you desire. If you are looking for a training plan to be spelled out, these are not the books for you; something like Fitzgerald's book of plans is a better resource for plans. Shane Was going to say these books and point this out as well. Skiba's books are very good on the theory behind what the workouts are doing and more broad ideas of training theology. There are workouts in there, but the intents of the books are to aspects of training. As in the thought process for why various workouts are selected. The workouts stated are more for explanatory purposes as opposed to being in a plan format. The first couple go rounds with trying to plan for races I did, indeed, use books with plans in them - to varying levels of success. But the last couple, I've been planning my training based on how my (ever older) body responded to those suggested blocks. I'm now looking for something that sounds more like Skiba, and have been using GPS and a PM for the serious training blocks (unlike my current effort to just get out and train at least SOME of the time!), so I look forward to picking up the suggested books I don't yet have and trying to figure it out! It's a big jump, though, to go from tinkering with a prescribed plan to setting up a season long plan on one's own. Should be fun, though! (and here I will say that I know it would be quicker, easier - and maybe even healthier! - to have a coach help out with the process. The struggle is part of the fun for me, at the moment - at least until I'm fast enough that the time is more important to me… but that could be a while!). For the coaches, if you're willing to share a window into how one becomes a coach, how did you make the jump to putting together seasonal plans for your athletes? Did you first work more with a single race focus and expand? Did you have your own coach to help you become a coach? Just curious how you approached what I see as something of a chasm... Thanks all for the input! Matt I was a personal trainer and triathlete first before deciding that I wanted to expand my services to include endurance coaching. I started out by taking USAT's Level 1 Clinic and obtaining my certification. Then I went to friends who raced and offered to coach them from January 1 through their 'A' race that year for free in exchange for them providing honest feedback about what they liked, didn't like, and being able to use them for referrals. I ended up working with 3 or 4 that year. Later that same year, I talked to Suzanne about her being my Mentor Coach, and I started coaching under her for Steel City Endurance. Fast forward 3 years, and I'm working with about a dozen athletes total between Steel City and my company, Reach Multisport & Personal Training.
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| 2014-07-18 5:38 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Coaching books Matt Dixon just put out a book. I have not read it, but apparently it's good. Better than the books, some really good coaches do articles, podcasts, interviews.... For example, Jesse Kropelnicki from QT2 is a guy worth following. There are others. There are guys out there...they tell you to do X, do Y :-) But the best, hands down....are the athletes that have succeeded. It's unfortunate a guy like Bryan D is no longer around. Guys like that. They key is to figure out who to listen to, and who to not listen to. The magic is getting the various opinions and putting them together in a way that works for you!!! You'd be amazed at some of the people willing to share information. Just need to ask them . Edited by marcag 2014-07-18 5:39 PM |
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