changes coming to ITU AG worlds (Page 3)

At AG naitonals this year there will be a Super Sprint DL relay showcase......top Jr. and U23 Triathletes are participating.  It's Saturday after the Oly race.  If you are going to the race you should stick around to watch the relay race.....smoking fast!

At least!  I'm thinking of making a "More kicking than Van Damme" mentor group!

Marc - there are a ton of kids who want to do DL racing and can't because the number of races are limited.  I'm for more DL races....ALOT more.  It appears, from what I've heard, that we will probably get at least double the number of DL races for Youth/Jr. elite next year.....and now some of these kids are also gratuating out of youth/Jr. and still want to race DL....so it's good to have it move to the AG level.

I think there will always be room for AG non-draft racing.....but it's great to see DL racing pushing into the mainstream. 

Like I said.....I want to see triathlon like USA swimming is 10-15 years down the road. 

We are not the future of triathlon.....the kids are.

I think this may be the best mentor group of all time.

Seriously though, if we could get a swim focus mentor group going that would be great.

Remember the dinosaur's words......"you can't win a triathlon with the swim".  bwaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!!!

Real tough to get under 2:05 without a 22 minute swim dinosaurs :D

And you still can't. It's the second (and often forgotten) part that will become even more pronounced. "... but it can be lost."

Mentor Group and/or Challenge could work. A name like that is too awesome NOT to join in!

Probably the new saying, for all of triathlon, should be, "you can't win a triathlon without a good swim"....because you can't.  Those days are largely gone.

True enough.

You can't win a triathlon without an Iron gut. ~Long Course Proverb

Things like this could be all over the place, depending on what the various race organizers want to do. Worlds is qualification, so the people there will probably have at least some idea of what they're doing. The levels below will have to balance out the competitiveness, clean racing, and inclusiveness of the events. Different races will move around the emphasis. While there absolutely should be tough events where you have to keep up or you're out, I think it'll be interesting to see how the inclusiveness is handled. Looking more at smaller or local race-like, how fast is reasonable for people to get to in order to do this type of race.

well idk about all this because maybe you had someone in another age group to work with on the bike. you can't take a race and the make up a draft legal scenario.

what I can tell you is that if you come out of the water 3 minutes behind a group of strong triathletes you aren't catching them.

DL racing is rarely that simple.  The guy who got out of the water first has to decide whether to TT the entire race or wait for a pack and save his legs. There is a lot of strategy involved.  Yes, forget about the pointy end as far as winiing overall....the kids will win 90% of that.  They're a battle tested bunch and pretty much win everywhere they go at the sprint distance even without DL (look at Chicago). 

The real game changer will be whether the race is multiple laps, with people getting lapped out, or if it's a single lap race.  Then a lot can happen.....especially if you are allowed to grab the wheel of packs already on the course when you get out of the water.  Realistically, to start with anyway, the only people ridingin true packs will be the kids who grew up with DL or cyclists.

There are WAY too many scenarios to look at before you can come up with a "look at my last AG race, this is what it will look like if it is DL"......it doesn't work that way.

It'll be interesting to see how they configure AG DL races with hundreds, and maybe thousands, or racers.  Right now the fields are limited to 75 because the only real DL series goijng on in this country is youth/Jr....and the top end of that field is way faster than most people think....  1:10/100 swim, 25-27mph bike, sub 17:00 5K to about 20 deep in most races.

Give it a chance before you decide how it will go......it's GREAT racing!

I sure as heck would not make it easy for someone to hang on unless I knew there would be some benefit. Getting rid of anyone who couldn't help.

Can there really be an "overall" winner with DL and different waves? Technically yes, fastest time, but so much would depend on "thems the breaks".

Not until the kids are done....it just wasn't working.  If you saw their schedule for training and travel you'd get it.  I've raced plenty, and have plenty coming....but for now it's about them.  I'm happy I can provide this opportunity for them, and that I have the time and opportunity to watch them progress....it's more than enough for me.

Aren't a lot of road races decided by "thems the breaks" situations.