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 2014-09-18 10:32 PM |
 643   |  Subject: How long did it take you to learn flip turns?Well, after almost a year of having swim lessons, my coach has had it with me. He wants me to do flip turns. He's not being mean about it but now that my races are over with, he's having me spend 10 minutes a lesson or so to practice these. I tried these many times before but it just does not click. The water up my nose (getting better at that) and being upside down in the water has me freaking out like I just started swimming again. I'm going to keep at it but wow, it's hard to keep going when I mess up and just a nose full of water, my sinuses go nuts, and my nose physically hurts. A guy I swim with said it took him 3 months of self teaching to get it down (or good enough for a triathlete). How long did it take you guys? Did you only use it for a few sets when you got it down or did you force every turn to get a flip turn after that point? |
| 2014-09-18 11:47 PM in reply to: Blastman |
Veteran 2297  Great White North | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? 2 days. I was 9. My 7 year old got them in a week. |
| 2014-09-18 11:48 PM in reply to: #5051880 |
Regular 163 Kansas | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? I end up doing a hand stand or a somersault in the water, so I'm curious too. |
| 2014-09-19 12:14 AM in reply to: jayhawk_sean |
| 471 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? You should be able to get a basic turn done in an afternoon, a week or so it will more resemble a TT and then perfect it over a month or so. Practice in deep water, away from the pool sides, flip over and kick away from an imaginary wall. Keep on doing this until you have a basic half somersault sorted out. Then move to the wall. Do it slowly, have your legs bunched up and slowly extend them to kick off. I'm saying this because until you've sussed out the correct distance you need to be at, you may whack your ankles/feet. Chin on chest to speed up your rotation and you need to blow air out your nose to stop water going up it. It doesn't have to be perfect and look good, just work on getting some sort of rotation and getting yourself into a position where you kick off. Even a really crappy TT is better than stopping at the wall every lap, you do that when you hit your 80s and your body is wracked with arthritis. |
| 2014-09-19 7:06 AM in reply to: Blastman |
Member 1748 Exton, PA | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? 1-2 weeks, I was 13. |
| 2014-09-19 7:18 AM in reply to: mike761 |
| 239 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? A couple days.. I was 8 or 9. |
| 2014-09-19 7:21 AM in reply to: Blastman |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? A couple weeks of my high school swim coach making us do extra sets any time we did an open turn.
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| 2014-09-19 7:39 AM in reply to: TriMyBest |
Extreme Veteran 3020 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? About a week when I was 7. |
| 2014-09-19 7:40 AM in reply to: Blastman |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Adult onset here, learned at 33. Got it within like 2 days to where I could get over and push off in about the right direction. Have become more proficient at it since then. Took longer to accept the delayed breath from an open turn, but had the motion down rather quick. |
| 2014-09-19 7:51 AM in reply to: Blastman |
| Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Never did. Every time I think about even starting to learn someone has a melt down about how everyone MUST do things their way including flip turns and I realize it's more amusing to annoy the holier than thou than it would be to gain .0002 seconds in my "finish today" tri speeds. |
| 2014-09-19 7:53 AM in reply to: 0 |
| 34 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? 1 day to learn, a couple weeks to perfect. I was 12. Edited by CzechYourHead 2014-09-19 7:54 AM |
| 2014-09-19 7:57 AM in reply to: jayhawk_sean |
| 631 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? One or 2 practices probably spent 15 minutes on it each time. But that was in a salt water pool. When I switched to a chlorinated pool I had to learn how to keep water out of nose because it would burn that took longer to learn and I still end up with water in my nose at times. So the physical act of flipping was easy, keeping water out of my nose was hard. |
| 2014-09-19 8:21 AM in reply to: Blastman |
| 20 Chesterfield, Missouri | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Too long ago for me to remember. But I wanted to share that I always exhale through my nose during the turn. Water won't go up if air is coming out. Give it a try. |
| 2014-09-19 8:31 AM in reply to: #5051880 |
| 160 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? You can laugh a this one. A grimace (face) may help. Try sending your upper lip up and your nose down. Now try breathing... Breath again without the grimace. You should notice a difference. If air has a hard time passing then so does water! |
| 2014-09-19 9:35 AM in reply to: Antoine tri |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? 10 minutes to learn, about a month to get comfortable, and at some point they became good, dunno when that happened. And to those who think flip turns aren't important, see you at the finish line, because you won't see me once after the gun goes off. |
| 2014-09-19 10:07 AM in reply to: Blastman |
| 1660 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Took me 2 months to get comfortable enough with it to go all out on intervals.
Honestly, the flip is the easiest part - you will learn that within a week. The hardest part is pacing yourself and timing the breaths so that you're not hypoxic when you enter/exit the flip, as well as learning to time your strokes so that you are at the right distance from the wall.
For starters, just do it on easy sets so the hypoxia isn't an issue. Even now, I consider myself totally comfortable with flips, and if I do an all-out gutbusting 400 sprint, I might have to skip a flip or two if I mistime the breath or stroke at the last wall because I'll be too shortof breath to hold for the whole turn. Same if i'm on a tail end of 20 x100 in the last few . |
| 2014-09-19 10:18 AM in reply to: Blastman |
Member 75 South Texas | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? I was 48. Two trips to the pool using the method in these videos. It works astoundingly well. Grab a pool noodle and work the process. (My belief is the major benefit is greater breath control and removing the inevitable momentary rest at each turn.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNLRh0ZrXqk JWR |
| 2014-09-19 10:46 AM in reply to: jwrichey |
| 1055 | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Adult on-set and self taught, it took me about three months before they felt right most of the time. When I first started, I kept hitting my back on the bottom of the pool, very annoying. After a couple sessions I had the basics down. You have to just commit to doing them and not look back. Next time you go to the pool, don't allow yourself to do anymore open turns, no matter how ugly it gets. |
| 2014-09-19 11:31 AM in reply to: Blastman |
Master 3205 ann arbor, michigan | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? One session of being taught how to do them. Then one week of swimming while refusing to do anything but flip turns to cement the technique. My "coach" told me that she doesn't teach people who won't learn to flip turn (in the nicest way possible) so I learned. I tried to swim the other day and not do flip turns and I found it almost impossible to not automatically flip at the end. It has just become how I swim without even thinking about it. With that being said, I never had the water up the nose issues or disorientation that you are having. The technique was really pretty easy right from the start once I was actually taught how to do it, and I learned it as a 41 year old. It makes me wonder if you need someone to walk you through the technique? |
| 2014-09-19 11:51 AM in reply to: Antoine tri |
Member 2827 Carbondale, Illinois | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? I don't know how long it will take me to get it down, but this thread inspired me to do some in my swim workout this morning. I haven't done them in about a year--little gunshy after cracking my head on the bottom of the pool in the shallow end. Today was just at the one end of the pool (barn door style open turns at the other end), but I'll get there! Thanks for the inspiration!! |
| 2014-09-19 12:41 PM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Master 1970 Somewhere on the Tennessee River | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? One lesson, ever so long ago. It should be easy as 1, 2, 3.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hysq6tX7d5Q |
| 2014-09-19 12:43 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 1970 Somewhere on the Tennessee River | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Originally posted by Blastman Well, after almost a year of having swim lessons, my coach has had it with me. He wants me to do flip turns. He's not being mean about it but now that my races are over with, he's having me spend 10 minutes a lesson or so to practice these. I tried these many times before but it just does not click. The water up my nose (getting better at that) and being upside down in the water has me freaking out like I just started swimming again. I'm going to keep at it but wow, it's hard to keep going when I mess up and just a nose full of water, my sinuses go nuts, and my nose physically hurts. A guy I swim with said it took him 3 months of self teaching to get it down (or good enough for a triathlete). How long did it take you guys? Did you only use it for a few sets when you got it down or did you force every turn to get a flip turn after that point? Exhale through your nose as you start the flip turn. Continue until you are once again in the crawl position.
Edited by MadMathemagician 2014-09-19 12:44 PM |
| 2014-09-19 2:08 PM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? |
| 2014-09-19 4:16 PM in reply to: Blastman |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Similar story - I've been going to Masters for about a year and never knew how to do flip turns. 2 weeks ago the coach decided it was time to teach the technique to those who didn't know how to do them. He started having us stand in about 3-4 feet of water and just practice doing full flips in the middle of the lane. We progressed to swimming and flipping mid-lane, and eventually had us start about 20' from the wall, swimming slowly to approach, then do a flip turn at the wall, complete with push off. I nailed the slow stuff right away, and am now working on my timing/breathing/etc. in regular speed with about 85% success rate. I occasionally misjudge distance or breathe, but it's getting easier. Today's snout full of water was a bit painful, though. That'll teach me to exhale more! |
| 2014-09-20 7:38 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 8247 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: How long did it take you to learn flip turns? Maybe a week. I think I was 10. Good I learned as by the next year the coach had me swimming the 200 against the HS girls, and when I actually got to HS I did the 500 and sometimes the 1650. That's a whole lot of turns! In HS I was able to not only swim but also do flip turns while apparently sound asleep--the coach used to have to wake me up during warmup at early AM practice sometimes. What I have difficulty with is actually turning without a flip (in freestyle, not stroke and IM turns). I was injured in July (bruised ribs) and, oddly, what really hurt was going into the tuck for the flip turn. I had to do open turns at master's and realized I hardly knew how to do them any more--had some of the most horrible approaches you can imagine. Half the time I forgot and then had to endure a very slow and painful flip! When I work with kids it usually takes them 2-3 sessions to learn the basics and several weeks to get really proficient. Just have to keep after them to use them consistently--some positive and a bit of negative reinforcement helps. Edited by Hot Runner 2014-09-20 7:48 AM |
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