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2014-10-17 3:36 PM
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Originally posted by SevenZulu

We now have an Ebola Czar. 

http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-says-expects-ebola-czar-job-five-183402086.html

So what I'm not clear on is why this is expected to be a 5-month position.  Are they anticipating a breach of protocol by the czar?

Or they expect it to be resolved completely in 5 months.  Or less.  I'm leaning to less personally. 

It would have looked bad if they said this position was expected to end within a week after the November election.



2014-10-17 9:51 PM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Shep did a pretty good job of pointing out how ridiculous the hysteria is.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/15/shepard-smith-ebola_n_5992510.html

I'm flying to Boston with my son this Saturday and flying to Orland in 3 weeks with my whole family.  My biggest fear is the airline losing my luggage. 



Funny I heard this report and later that day I was watching the hearings on fox news and I learned that ebola very well gets spread by dogs and that the government is covering that fact up.
2014-10-18 9:47 AM
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No it can't and no the government is not covering it up. Please stop spreading misinformation. Just stop!

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas-pets.html?mobile=noco...
2014-10-18 10:16 AM
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Subject: RE: EBOLA on American Soil!!!!

Originally posted by SevenZulu

Originally posted by crowny2

Originally posted by SevenZulu

We now have an Ebola Czar. 

http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-says-expects-ebola-czar-job-five-183402086.html

So what I'm not clear on is why this is expected to be a 5-month position.  Are they anticipating a breach of protocol by the czar?

Or they expect it to be resolved completely in 5 months.  Or less.  I'm leaning to less personally. 

It would have looked bad if they said this position was expected to end within a week after the November election.

I'm not sure if the government is capable of creating anything temporary, so I got $5 that says it will be a permanent position.  ;-)

2014-10-18 12:53 PM
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The czar thing was a little weird, but I agree with the Pres on this one.  #stopfearbola

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/18/obama-reinforces-argument-against-travel-ban-urges-americans-to-resist-ebola/

 

2014-10-20 12:14 PM
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What we SHOULD be doing, if we're really concerned about an outbreak of Ebola on US soil is doing everything we can to control the outbreak in Africa. That's not a popular view among the people who want to wrap the US in plastic wrap and duct tape, but it's a much more effective strategy long term than trying to ban flights or putting hundreds of people in quarantine.

Currently, we're a long, long LOOONG way from there being any significant chance of an outbreak among the general populaion in the US. But, if we (and by "we" I mean the global community) don't do everything we can to control the spread in West Africa, the more likely it is that it will spread to neighboring countries and become harder to stop globally.

It's possible to prevent the entry of an affected person now, even without West African travel bans. If the disease spreads well beyond Liberia, Sierra Leone, etc, it will be more difficult to prevent from entering the US.


2014-10-21 11:11 AM
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And here is the other side of Fox.  George Will showing just how moronic he really is.  Fearbola strikes again and NO, he is not alone and neither is Fox . CNN, MSNBC, and essentially the ENTIRE MSM has been blowing it well out of proportion.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/george-will-scientists-also-lying-about-ebola.html 

 

So you have irrational reactions like the ones listed here.

http://www.alternet.org/culture/6-americas-most-panicky-misinformed-overreactions-ebola-virus 



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2014-10-21 11:57 AM
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George Will is an idiot.

I mean, Ebola is so easy to pass on that none of the people LIVING WITH the Dallas victim contracted it. LOL

Run for your lives!!!! 

2014-10-21 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

George Will is an idiot.

I mean, Ebola is so easy to pass on that none of the people LIVING WITH the Dallas victim contracted it. LOL

Run for your lives!!!! 

Your post reminded me of this handy little flowchart.

2014-10-21 2:12 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

George Will is an idiot.

I mean, Ebola is so easy to pass on that none of the people LIVING WITH the Dallas victim contracted it. LOL

Run for your lives!!!! 

Your post reminded me of this handy little flowchart.

Leave it to the Onion to have a brilliant response.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/tracking-ebola-in-the-united-states,37218/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default 

2014-10-22 10:03 AM
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Just got back last night from Boston and it was kind of funny how many Ebola jokes I heard at the airport and on the plane.  It's good to see that people aren't buying into the media's fear campaign.  I saw one lady at O'Hare that was wearing a surgical mask, but other than that it was business as usual.



2014-10-24 8:45 AM
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Welp, Ebola has reached NYC. As expected, the reactions are pretty much running the gamut from "Eh. Whattya gonna do?" to "How quickly can we set up internment camps for anyone who sneezes?"

2014-10-24 8:53 AM
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Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Welp, Ebola has reached NYC. As expected, the reactions are pretty much running the gamut from "Eh. Whattya gonna do?" to "How quickly can we set up internment camps for anyone who sneezes?"

I thought of you the second I heard of the NYC case.  I haven't read all the specifics yet, but as with the others he's a medical professional who was treating ebola patients in the late stages where the disease is most contagious.

I'm sure the media will soon vilify him to the point where they start using his middle name as they do serial killers.

2014-10-24 9:25 AM
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Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Welp, Ebola has reached NYC. As expected, the reactions are pretty much running the gamut from "Eh. Whattya gonna do?" to "How quickly can we set up internment camps for anyone who sneezes?"

I thought of you the second I heard of the NYC case.  I haven't read all the specifics yet, but as with the others he's a medical professional who was treating ebola patients in the late stages where the disease is most contagious.

I'm sure the media will soon vilify him to the point where they start using his middle name as they do serial killers.

Everything I have read is not only are they vilifying him, but also Obama for not closing the borders.  

Again, it is a "meh" situation.  He went in on his own after developing symptoms.  And to date the only ones to contract it HERE are health care workers.  Even Duncan's family in TX didn't get it.  

Much ado about nothing.

2014-10-24 9:56 AM
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Originally posted by crowny2

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Welp, Ebola has reached NYC. As expected, the reactions are pretty much running the gamut from "Eh. Whattya gonna do?" to "How quickly can we set up internment camps for anyone who sneezes?"

I thought of you the second I heard of the NYC case.  I haven't read all the specifics yet, but as with the others he's a medical professional who was treating ebola patients in the late stages where the disease is most contagious.

I'm sure the media will soon vilify him to the point where they start using his middle name as they do serial killers.

Everything I have read is not only are they vilifying him, but also Obama for not closing the borders.  

Again, it is a "meh" situation.  He went in on his own after developing symptoms.  And to date the only ones to contract it HERE are health care workers.  Even Duncan's family in TX didn't get it.  

Much ado about nothing.

agree, I meant to add the political side as well. 

We're all going to die because of Obama.  Please vote (R) the next election

2014-10-24 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by crowny2

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Welp, Ebola has reached NYC. As expected, the reactions are pretty much running the gamut from "Eh. Whattya gonna do?" to "How quickly can we set up internment camps for anyone who sneezes?"

I thought of you the second I heard of the NYC case.  I haven't read all the specifics yet, but as with the others he's a medical professional who was treating ebola patients in the late stages where the disease is most contagious.

I'm sure the media will soon vilify him to the point where they start using his middle name as they do serial killers.

Everything I have read is not only are they vilifying him, but also Obama for not closing the borders.  

Again, it is a "meh" situation.  He went in on his own after developing symptoms.  And to date the only ones to contract it HERE are health care workers.  Even Duncan's family in TX didn't get it.  

Much ado about nothing.

agree, I meant to add the political side as well. 

We're all going to die because of Obama.  Please vote (R) the next election




Well done.

To be fair, I think that's pretty much been the R's campaign slogan for the past six years.


2014-10-24 8:37 PM
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2014-10-25 8:56 PM
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Sigh. Been through all this stuff with SARS in China. The US has been very lucky not to have been hard hit by too many scary/emerging diseases in recent years. Just surprised (or maybe not) how long it has taken them to start quarantining high-risk arrivals. In my mind given the severity of this disease and that we are still learning about it, it really should have been done from the get-go.

High-risk= pretty much anyone from the seriously affected countries, definitely medical workers or others with probable exposure. In reality, perhaps best to quarantine anyone, since we are talking about fairly small numbers of people, and voluntary quarantine, even if the person follows it, could still put family members at risk. Medical workers can usually be relied on to disclose potential exposure, monitor themselves for symptoms and isolate themselves if they develop. Others may/may not have the knowledge or integrity to do so. Voluntary quarantine in China was often not effective for the simple reason that people want to get on with their lives; some will also be in denial after they develop initial symptoms or perhaps confuse them with another disease (in the case of SARS, there were simultaneous outbreaks of flu, whooping cough, and a virus similar to rubella, so it was hard to tell without testing who had what). People are vilifying the returning doctor who went bowling, out to eat, etc, after returning. It's only natural to want to enjoy some comforts of home after time in a desperately poor country with a high-stress job. Though he most likely put no one in public in danger (patients are only contagious when symptomatic), he shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place, in my opinion. He should have been in involuntary quarantine until the incubation period had passed.
2014-10-29 4:02 PM
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And now there is the nurse who is put in mandatory quarantine even though she has no symptoms.  

And the girl who returned from Nigeria (ebola free) who has not been allowed to go back to school.

And the two boys in NYC who are from Senegal who were beaten up while their attackers chanted "Ebloa".  

Ugh! The fear caused by scientific illiteracy in this country is STAGGERING!.  

2014-10-30 9:04 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/showdown-imminent-over-nurses-quarantine-maine-060038440.html

Ebola on a bike.  This nurse is going to give cyclists a bad name.

2014-10-30 9:12 AM
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2014-10-30 9:31 AM
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Originally posted by SevenZulu

http://news.yahoo.com/showdown-imminent-over-nurses-quarantine-maine-060038440.html

Ebola on a bike.  This nurse is going to give cyclists a bad name.




I hope its not a red bike. Then it would finally have a fast delivery system.
2014-10-31 4:28 PM
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Fortunately a judge not only used common sense but also science to overturn the clearly politically based quarantine.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/kaci-hickox-h...
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