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Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me
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 2015-01-19 1:08 PM |
 1502   Katy, Texas |  Subject: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes meI haven't done a time trial in a couple of months and did a 1,500 meter TT this morning. Last one I did I swam a 22 and change, but had made some pretty good strides since then (or so I thought). I had my myself pretty well convinced that I could go sub 20 minutes. I ended up at 20:50. I'm kind of bummed about it now. I paced it terribly (the clocks weren't set up in the pool so I had to swim blind) but even if I had paced better, I was way too far off to hit the mark. Man, I thought I had that one in the bag. Oh well, back to work I suppose. At least it ignited a bit of a fire again, I hate being disappointed like that. |
| 2015-01-19 1:16 PM in reply to: 3mar |
Extreme Veteran 1332  | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me |
| 2015-01-19 1:19 PM in reply to: 3mar |
Elite 7783  PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. |
| 2015-01-19 1:24 PM in reply to: axteraa |
| 1502 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by axteraa Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. I'm pretty sure but I'll know for certain when I download it from my watch later. I'd like to see how my pacing changed too. The coach there timed me and said I started out the first 300 at 1:16/100meter which would explain my crash. |
| 2015-01-19 1:31 PM in reply to: 3mar |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by 3mar Originally posted by axteraa I'm pretty sure but I'll know for certain when I download it from my watch later. I'd like to see how my pacing changed too. The coach there timed me and said I started out the first 300 at 1:16/100meter which would explain my crash. Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. Yeah, that's enough to kill your chances. First one I did I went out similar, 1:16/17 for the first bit, by the end I was doing 1:25s and hurting bad. Next time I started out right on 1:20s and just held it by slowly increasing my effort. 20:00.7 (doh!)
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| 2015-01-19 8:15 PM in reply to: 3mar |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Tempo Trainer Pro. |
| 2015-01-22 1:33 PM in reply to: 3mar |
Veteran 427 | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by 3mar Originally posted by axteraa Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. I'm pretty sure but I'll know for certain when I download it from my watch later. I'd like to see how my pacing changed too. The coach there timed me and said I started out the first 300 at 1:16/100meter which would explain my crash. Heck, if you're doing 1:16/100M you are a superhero in my book. |
| 2015-01-22 8:15 PM in reply to: 3mar |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Decent result. But seriously you need a tempo trainer and more speed work. |
| 2015-01-23 12:48 AM in reply to: 3mar |
Veteran 176 North Bay Area, CA | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me I'll take a 20:50 any day  |
| 2015-01-23 8:46 AM in reply to: FurnaceM3 |
Member 1748 Exton, PA | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by FurnaceM3 Originally posted by 3mar Originally posted by axteraa Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. I'm pretty sure but I'll know for certain when I download it from my watch later. I'd like to see how my pacing changed too. The coach there timed me and said I started out the first 300 at 1:16/100meter which would explain my crash. Heck, if you're doing 1:16/100M you are a superhero in my book. It sounds fast for triathletes, however most kids on a swim team over the age of 12 are swimming that fast. |
| 2015-01-23 8:58 AM in reply to: mike761 |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by mike761 yep but some of us are busting a gut to get 2:16/100m, it's all relative.Originally posted by FurnaceM3 Originally posted by 3mar Originally posted by axteraa Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. I'm pretty sure but I'll know for certain when I download it from my watch later. I'd like to see how my pacing changed too. The coach there timed me and said I started out the first 300 at 1:16/100meter which would explain my crash. Heck, if you're doing 1:16/100M you are a superhero in my book. It sounds fast for triathletes, however most kids on a swim team over the age of 12 are swimming that fast. |
| 2015-01-23 9:36 AM in reply to: mike761 |
| 1502 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by FurnaceM3 Originally posted by 3mar Originally posted by axteraa Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. I'm pretty sure but I'll know for certain when I download it from my watch later. I'd like to see how my pacing changed too. The coach there timed me and said I started out the first 300 at 1:16/100meter which would explain my crash. Heck, if you're doing 1:16/100M you are a superhero in my book. It sounds fast for triathletes, however most kids on a swim team over the age of 12 are swimming that fast. I agree that a 20:50 1,500 SCM wouldn't be a very competitive time for a high school senior male, but I wouldn't go quite as far as to say "most kids on a swim team over the age of 12 are swimming that fast". Case in point... http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/247b781e-ec16-406d-bc... A 20:50 1,500 would put a 12 y/o female and a male at almost a AAA level, so not "most" but actually very very few. Now, looking at 17-18 y/o males and a 20:50 is a BB, which is still in the ranks, but not uber competitive by any stretch. Of course, I'm 36 and only have been back in the pool 8 months after almost 20 years on dry land (and previous to that, I was a moderate high school swimmer at best) so cut me some slack. |
| 2015-01-23 10:44 AM in reply to: 3mar |
| 1502 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by 3mar Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by FurnaceM3 Originally posted by 3mar Originally posted by axteraa Are you 100% sure you counted properly? Just one extra 50 gets you down to 20:10. I dropped quite a bit of time off my 1500 simply by pacing better. I'm pretty sure but I'll know for certain when I download it from my watch later. I'd like to see how my pacing changed too. The coach there timed me and said I started out the first 300 at 1:16/100meter which would explain my crash. Heck, if you're doing 1:16/100M you are a superhero in my book. It sounds fast for triathletes, however most kids on a swim team over the age of 12 are swimming that fast. I agree that a 20:50 1,500 SCM wouldn't be a very competitive time for a high school senior male, but I wouldn't go quite as far as to say "most kids on a swim team over the age of 12 are swimming that fast". Case in point... http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/247b781e-ec16-406d-bc... A 20:50 1,500 would put a 12 y/o female and a male at almost a AAA level, so not "most" but actually very very few. Now, looking at 17-18 y/o males and a 20:50 is a BB, which is still in the ranks, but not uber competitive by any stretch. Of course, I'm 36 and only have been back in the pool 8 months after almost 20 years on dry land (and previous to that, I was a moderate high school swimmer at best) so cut me some slack. Slight correction, after looking again I realized I was looking at the wrong table. The 11-12 y/o times for both male and female would be between A and AA, still excluding "most". For 17-18 y/o males it would be in the middle between B and BB. |
| 2015-01-23 8:24 PM in reply to: 3mar |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Slowest 1500 of my life 21:35 age 11. Fastest 16:10 age 22. Masters PB 17:06 age 35. |
| 2015-01-23 8:25 PM in reply to: StaceyK |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me I thought you Aussies all swam 1.20/100 out of the womb. |
| 2015-01-23 9:13 PM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Extreme Veteran 1332 | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me |
| 2015-01-23 11:23 PM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Originally posted by simpsonbo I wish I thought you Aussies all swam 1.20/100 out of the womb. but I did live "inland" for a good portion of my childhood. We saw water for 2 weeks of the year, when they threw us in and said swim (yes literally that is what my swim teacher did). Freezing, cold, blowing a gale on the south coast. I used to turn blue. I am getting better though and am now at 1:50/100 and if I was a bit more consistent with training could get down a fair bit more I think, thanks to Sheila. Can't recommend her stuff enough. It has made a huge improvement for me. |
| 2015-01-24 12:27 AM in reply to: StaceyK |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Sub 20 1,500 still eludes me Spent 36/37 years 1000km plus from the nearest ocean.... pools work for me. |
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