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Subject: Guidance/Advise for HIM to IM transition
Hi guys/gals! This is my 2nd post in BT.

About me:
AG 25-29, 179 lbs, 173 cm, married w/ 6 month beautiful kid.

Background:
Started tri training 2008, raced first sprint 2009. Started working 2010 so training was more recreational than structured.
Before tri I was in collegiate baseball, basketball, and mountaineering. Injured my right shoulder of which after a few years discovered ligaments were torn almost 50% (hard headed person in me chose to just rehab). Underwent Bankart repair surgery September 2013, physio+rehab for half year, officially released May 2014. By this time I started to slowly return to the sport. I am a weak swimmer and now even weaker post-surgery (and more afraid). On my "stronger" time I used to hold 1st for AG 20-24 on 2 sprints and 1 Oly.

I do not have BT training logs. My comeback event was 70.3 Vietnam earlier May 2015 (7:06) and last Sunday I did 70.3 Cebu (6:53). For Vietnam I used the Ironman 70.3 Ballarat 10-week program. while for Cebu I took 1 week of rest after Vietnam, and used Matt Fitzgerald Super Simple Half program starting on week 4. I do admit on missing a few weekday training days due to fatigue or work schedule (24/7 on duty as vessel manager). So far I survived and am getting back in shape. I am weakest on swim and strongest on the bike.

When I finished the 70.3 Cebu I asked myself, what's next? So my question would be do you think I am ready to take on a full? I'm eyeing Langkawi on Nov 14 2015 (near) or at Australia on December (more prep time). If you think I could, would you please be so kind to recommend a training plan. If you think I should wait it off, please suggest a timeline for me. I plan to use the "super simple IM training plan" starting at week 6, or the "13 weeks to a 13-Hour IM plan" starting at week 3

Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for inputs!


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2015-08-06 7:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Guidance/Advise for HIM to IM transition

Are you ready is a question only you can answer.  You're young, and have an infant... so why the rush to the IM distance?

All that stated, your recent 70.3 times indicate you'd be in for a very long day at the IM distance.  I'd guess a 15-16 hour finish time and a fair amount of misery.

My advice would be to hold off, fully recover from your injuries, get back into shape, and do it at a time when you can dedicate more fully to the training (which may or may not ever happen).  Sounds like you just want to do one to check off some box but I'm not sure that's the best way to go about it.

2015-08-06 8:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Guidance/Advise for HIM to IM transition

Are you ready to transition from HIM training to IM training?  The biggest difference in the two is the long ride & long run.  IM plans will have you build up to 3 hour runs and 5-6 hour rides.  Your total training time per week for an IM will peak at around 16 hours where a similar HIM plan might peak at 10-12 hours.  

 

2015-08-06 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Guidance/Advise for HIM to IM transition
From your 70.3 times you are probably looking at a 15 or 16 hr IM.

Personally I would go for a more specialized plan than a generic one to help you build your swim and run (you said your bike is the strongest).

Those "simple" plans are geared to "finish" ....but I think the problem is you run into issues that may set you back and possibly DNF.
My suggestion is to work a bit more on the weak areas so you can guarantee a stronger performance. The other thing about those "simple" plans, is they are very minimal training for IM. Some people will agree with that, and others won't....

I like the idea of IMWA for you, it's fairly close since you are in Singapore and it's a flat and fun race (I've done it). I don't know anything about Langkawi.
The fact you can recover nicely from your 70.3 and then resume training for the IM.

Keep in mind your last 2 months will be a lot more training volume. 5-6 hour bike rides and 3+ hour runs every week. It's a big strain on your life, and your family's. Not like a 70.3.

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