Cross Fit on 60 min. (Page 2)

Originally posted by cdban66

I'm with you on this LB.  As a father who raised two young ladies I have seen the variety of ways that they can get their feelings hurt.  I would simply encourage each of us to look at our interactions with others.  You may be surprised how simple it is to have a negative affect on someone.  I made a comparison some years back on this board and was quickly taken to task for offending.  When I reviewed what I had said, well yes, I could see where my flippant attempt at humor could be offensive to someone.  I probably fail more often not, but I TRY to keep the recipient in mind when I post something.  You never know what someone has been through, nor how they may take something.  It sometimes makes it difficult to say what I really want to say, but I am probably better off that way, at least knowing that I have thought through my statement.

BTW, it isn't just young ladies that can have their feeling hurt. 

Originally posted by dmiller5

fit women with muscles are super attractive.  Women on steroids are not.  The ones in the games on TV are most definitely on steroids, just like the pro football players, Ronda Rousey, etc.

Originally posted by Left Brain

Nah, that's damn near impossible to do........I'm just getting ready to start laughing as I read this thread.

Originally posted by skipg I knew I would catch some heat for posting that but for the sake of COJ I thought it was worth the backlash I'm the father of two girls as well, oldest is 14 youngest is 8 months old. My oldest daughters reaction to the super big women of cross fit...ewww gross, they look like men. Maybe that should have been a moment where I went into a long talk and life lesson of how we shouldn't judge women on how they look.....but all I had was I agree, pretty gross so don't take steroids or you will look like a man!

Originally posted by Left Brain

Man, I'm not going to be able to help you out of this. LMAO

Originally posted by dmiller5

Sorry, but I think the lesson that you can create an attractive athletic body without steroids and looking like that is a great one. 

Originally posted by Left Brain

I agree on the steroid part......but I know some really big muscled gals that I doubt are using steroids.  So.......what's "attractive"?

Originally posted by zed707

I disagree about the similarity between triathlon and CF. Triathlon combines what I consider to be "fun" activities. There is nothing "fun" about what I've seen in CF. It does not look like "fun" to push a very heavy sled across the ground. It does not look like "fun" to lift a tractor tire over and over again. It does not look like "fun" to throw a medicine ball high up against a wall over and over again. Etc, Etc...

One of my favorite TV commercials of all time was the Subway "Crop Fit" spot. They were obviously dissing CF. I literally laughed out loud the first time I saw it. 

Pick the Pumpkin!!! Pick it!!!!!

 

Originally posted by Stacers

All right, I'll play...

"I think skinny triathlete men just look disgusting."

Wait, no I don't - I don't actually give a crud what they look like. When discussions come up about why people would want to do triathlons or crossfit or go fishing or whatever, the LAST thing that comes to mind for me is how said activity makes that person look. I'm impressed by what an athlete can DO with their body, not what it looks like. And I suspect most of those women doing crossfit aren't doing it so that a man will like the way they look, are they? They are doing it to feel strong, to compete, to challenge themselves. 

Luckily, it's different strokes for different folks, and there are guys out there who love muscles on a woman, while you might hate them.

Just sucks to be the teenage girl looking at society's beauty standards, and feeling like she is less than when in actuality she is awesome and strong (LB's daughter). Why does the way a woman looks have to be brought into the conversation over and over again? 

Originally posted by skipg I apologize for derailing the thread and making the comment, I realize it was inappropriate.

Originally posted by trigal38

I don't think you should apologize at all.  Like I said, personally I was not offended by your comment but I'm not a muscled up CF lady. It is a reality of our society that woman are viewed this way and it is always a good discussion. It made me pause and think about the comments my son made while seeing the CF woman lifting and plan for what to talk about next time.  

 

Originally posted by trigal38

I don't think you should apologize at all.  Like I said, personally I was not offended by your comment but I'm not a muscled up CF lady. It is a reality of our society that woman are viewed this way and it is always a good discussion. It made me pause and think about the comments my son made while seeing the CF woman lifting and plan for what to talk about next time.  

 

Originally posted by cdban66
I think the conversation has been benficial, at least it has for me.  

It's funny though, I have been in on 2 or 3 threads lately where the conversation went 180* away from the original post.  While that was obviously not the OP's intent, I do think the convo's have been positive.

Originally posted by skipg yeah, I was thinking about it over the last couple of days and it was one of those moments where I posted before I thought about it. Just curious how old your son is and what his comments were?

Originally posted by Kido

Ya'll make me laugh.  If people spent HALF the energy complimenting something they do bashing something I wonder how things would be.  You rarely get people speaking out and giving speeches about how great something is, but man, people come out of the woodwork with an opinion when they don't like something.  The way of social media I suppose.  If you like something, you press the "like" button.  If you don't?  Ya get a dissertation.  .

Maybe I'm the only "smart" person who does crossfit then?  I keep getting tips on my technique.  I don't train when I'm over trained.  IF I should get injured, I repair and rest.  I lift under control.  I respect others around me, keep to myself, respect the equipment...  I know my body, and train accordingly, recover accordingly, no matter WHAT I'm doing.

I have seen TONS of triathletes do too much, too fast.  ITB, plantar injuries, increasing millage too fast, swim with poor form and screw up their shoulders.  Watch ironman then think with a month of training they can do one since they currently run a little on the weekends.  I don't think Crossfit corners the market on training stupidly.

I think with everything, there are a-holes that do it, and smart/respectful people that do it.  It is also a program for youth and with youth comes attitude.  HOWEVER, I'm shocked at my gym, women outnumber men and the average age is easily in the 30's.  It's not a bunch of young punks.  It's middle aged people doing their thing and very sweet and nice and considerate to each other.  But feel free to judge a whole group of people on the a-holes.

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Originally posted by dmbfan4life20

Ok I will bite on this one.......

Been doing triathlon since 2010 at age of 25. Prior to that, did not much in the way of keeping in shape. 5 years later, I am down 70lbs and have completed all distances including a full Ironman. I absolutely LOVE triathlon. I loved swimming with my masters team, biking and running with my tri club and showing up to a race to test myself against other people. I got hurt several times from over use injuries and other things here and there. I was able to lower my 5K pace almost by 5 minutes during all my training. I looked good and I was in the best shape of my life...So I thought.

After IM last year, I started to notice something. I was skinny fat. I looked skinny but I had no muscle tone, none whatsoever. I realized doing an Ironman was cool, running a sub 8min/mile 5K was cool and going for long bike rides were cool. I also learned that I could not do a pull up, I could not do 25 push ups and I could barely lift or move very heavy objects. This lesson really hit home when I got into a physical altercation at work and realized how I did not have any strenghth. I could easily chase someone for miles but did I have what it takes to subdue them when I finally caught up to them???

I think like anything in life, at certain times your priorities change. For me, this was a lesson I learned that I need to be in better overall shape, not just great at endurance events. I continued to do endurance racing (mainly running) from 9/14-3/15 when I did my last half marathon. I got another knee injury that completely sidelined my running and I moved so I had no access to a pool to swim. Realizing I wanted to get stronger, I signed up for a globo gym and started lifting weights but never really got into it. Just felt really boring doing 3 sets of 10 reps for an hour or so. I was looking for something different to get me back into shape and my wife suggested I join her Crossfit gym.

Now, I have been a Crossfit skeptic for a long time, I mean triathlon was always the best way to train and I had a bunch of success with it. My wife has been doing CF for 2 years and she is in fantastic shape. Contrary to what some on this thread have said about women, my wife is not a big block, she is not on steroids and she looks muscular and lean but in a strong and sexy way. My wife can lift more then her body weight, do tons of pull ups, run pretty fast, and kick my in tons of workouts (I am still a faster runner though So when we recently moved we joined the local Crossfit gym where we have some friends who work out there.

Being that I was still a skeptic, I contacted the owner of the gym before starting. Instantly, we clicked. She is a 3x Ironman finisher and has run 7 plus Marathons and other endurance events so we come from similar backgrounds. All new people go through a 12 class foundations session at our gym to teach proper technique and form. We always warm up, do skill work and learn before starting each workout and then we stretch afterwards. Our gym has several PT's who offer mobility classes during the week and weekend after workouts. Our coaches wear shirts that say "Form above all else" and will make you use less weight/no weight until you get technique right. Additionally, all of the workouts are scalable to your ability level so you do not get injured by trying to do something you cannot yet do. Our gym has an endurance club and our owner puts out workouts and spreadsheets on how to mix endurance racing and Crossfit. We have large groups of people who are into endurance racing at our gym and people reguarly meet at a community pool to swim before work or on weekends and lots of us ride our bikes to and from the gym. I do not think it is fair to say all Crossfit gyms are stupid and teach bad form and dumb exercises. I think there are some gyms that are better then others but mine takes all of those things into consideration when programming workouts, teaching and keeping everyone safe. This is no different then someone claiming to be a great multisport coach but does nothing more then give you a generic race training plan. There are good and bad in both sports, you need to do your due diligence in looking into that.

I have been doing Crossfit since July and I feel stronger then ever before. Working on core strength, legs, glutes, etc has helped strengthen my knee and I have not had anymore knee pain since I started doing CF. I am slowly building my mileage back up and am currently at 5 miles (still scared of running my way into another injury). I love going into the gym and not having to worry about thinking of a workout because its already been done for me. I love that I can get a quality workout in less then 45 minutes and I don't need to ride a trainer for 3 hours. I love competing against myself in the gym just like I did/do at triathlon and running races. I love the community atmosphere it provides, just like my triathlon club. I love being able to learn from more experienced athletes, just like in my triathlon club. Mostly, I love being stronger and being able to do more then I have ever been able to do before. I do feel that while not directly related, my CF workouts will help in my triathlon trainign and racing when I get back into it. I have been burnt out from triathlon since IM last year so this is a great outlet for me to do something different. There are days where we do workouts that only last 10 minutes but I am out of breath and sweating more then going out for an hour run or 3 hour bike. I think that my endurance backround has helped when it comes to pacing some of the longer CF workouts that we do.

There are a lot of parralells that can be drawn between the two. I am not saying one is better then the other but I am saying that it has its benefits. I was once a skeptic but now I am not. I am proud to be a triathlete and I am proud to be a Crossfitter. There is no rule saying you can't be both. I think it's important to not knock anyone or any training methodology unless you try it first.

As for some of the steroid comments/Paleo comments- Lets not jump to conclusions about elite athletes. They are tested at the games and regional competitions just like other world class athletes. Maybe some people cheat to get by on the professional level but that is no different then any other sport. Also, not everyone abides by that Paleo diet thing. Most at my gym don't and I certainly do not. I love me some carbs and always will. Again, its an individual thing but not representative of all in the community.

Now that I am done writing my longest post in 5 years, please carry on with this discussion, go to a CF gym, do a workout and drink some of the kool-aid