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 2015-10-14 4:04 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion  7821     Brooklyn, NY |  Subject: RE: Democratic debateThat debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. |
| 2015-10-14 4:17 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ |
| 2015-10-14 4:42 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Democratic debate |
| 2015-10-14 5:44 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by tuwood Apparently Trump won the Democratic debate too. hehe
SOURCE?????????// |
| 2015-10-14 7:36 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. |
| 2015-10-14 7:41 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Apparently Trump won the Democratic debate too. hehe
SOURCE?????????// I bet he's still way behind Lady Gaga and the Beibs. It's not too late--maybe you can get them onto the GOP ticket. LOL. |
| 2015-10-14 8:24 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
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| 2015-10-15 8:00 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school |
| 2015-10-15 8:30 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: Democratic debate My take; Bernie Sanders wants to put Americans back to work by building road and bridges with people who just got free college degrees in Art History. The party of diversity looked pretty white, non-Hispanic and old compared to the minority hating non-hip cavemen in the Republican field. Webb seem like the only one who actually likes America. I am at a loss as to why the others want to be President of this country with ideals they despise. The talking points of the middle class shrinking, the economy skewed towards the rich, growing income inequality, stagnant pay, and economic misery for hard working Americans is a pretty strong indictment of 7 years of Obama and Democrats in the WH. Usually, the incumbent party will tout its successes to keep their job but it sounds like even the most ardent party faithful can't point to them. A couple years ago, I was a little concerned about the talent on the bench in the GOP. I am not anymore. The GOP candidates are clearly the varsity team in this election cycle. |
| 2015-10-15 8:42 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general |
| 2015-10-15 9:05 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general Ok...so if you agree with me on Fiorina, why do you present your argument as though she has this grand accomplishment and the dem candidates do not. sounds like a lot of bluster from the candidates and from yourself. |
| 2015-10-15 9:15 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general Ok...so if you agree with me on Fiorina, why do you present your argument as though she has this grand accomplishment and the dem candidates do not. sounds like a lot of bluster from the candidates and from yourself. You confuse me sometimes. Carly is running on her background as CEO of HP, or do you disagree with that? Carson is running as his background as a Surgeon, do you disagree with that? Hillary is running on her background as SoS and Senator, am I wrong? The funny part of your response is that you feel Fiorina is not qualified because her background wasn't good (which I agree with you), but you think Hillary is awesome when her background is just as bad or worse. I say worse because she doesn't even try to defend it. Somehow your'e trying to twist my words into saying that iCarly was a great business person, but I'm not sure how I could be any more clear. |
| 2015-10-15 9:30 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Democratic debate I quote you "Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman)." you said that she comes in flying high on success, being a successful business woman. you do not say she sucked at it as you now are admitting to. then you say that Clinton sucked at being SoS and a senator. you just start every conversation from this incredibly biased, half-truth and its getting old. Typical conservative machine, make the other guy spend all their time arguing with your lies, so that they don't have time to beat you on the issues. Clinton has been a successful champion of women's rights, was SoS at one of the most difficult times in history, and despite the republican witch trial, was successful their as well. X |
| 2015-10-15 9:47 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general Ok...so if you agree with me on Fiorina, why do you present your argument as though she has this grand accomplishment and the dem candidates do not. sounds like a lot of bluster from the candidates and from yourself. I think Fiorina gets a bit too much criticism from those that couldn't run a lemonade stand. I am not saying that her execution as CEO was perfect but she was the type of CEO that HP needed at the time to survive. She was a "change" type CEO. And people who are comfortable in their positions don't like change. At least she was bold and not afraid to act on her vision. I am just wondering how many of HP's competitors in the 90's are still around and have anywhere close to HP's market cap today? |
| 2015-10-15 9:54 AM in reply to: Jackemy1 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by Jackemy1 Originally posted by dmiller5 I think Fiorina gets a bit too much criticism from those that couldn't run a lemonade stand. I am not saying that her execution as CEO was perfect but she was the type of CEO that HP needed at the time to survive. She was a "change" type CEO. And people who are comfortable in their positions don't like change. At least she was bold and not afraid to act on her vision. I am just wondering how many of HP's competitors in the 90's are still around and have anywhere close to HP's market cap today? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general Ok...so if you agree with me on Fiorina, why do you present your argument as though she has this grand accomplishment and the dem candidates do not. sounds like a lot of bluster from the candidates and from yourself. she decided to sacrifice quality while using the company's reputation to make short term money, and then the company went to heck.....not the person I'd want running my country. |
| 2015-10-15 10:18 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by dmiller5 I quote you "Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman)." you said that she comes in flying high on success, being a successful business woman. you do not say she sucked at it as you now are admitting to. then you say that Clinton sucked at being SoS and a senator. you just start every conversation from this incredibly biased, half-truth and its getting old. Typical conservative machine, make the other guy spend all their time arguing with your lies, so that they don't have time to beat you on the issues. Clinton has been a successful champion of women's rights, was SoS at one of the most difficult times in history, and despite the republican witch trial, was successful their as well. X I give up |
| 2015-10-15 11:02 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by Jackemy1 Originally posted by dmiller5 I think Fiorina gets a bit too much criticism from those that couldn't run a lemonade stand. I am not saying that her execution as CEO was perfect but she was the type of CEO that HP needed at the time to survive. She was a "change" type CEO. And people who are comfortable in their positions don't like change. At least she was bold and not afraid to act on her vision. I am just wondering how many of HP's competitors in the 90's are still around and have anywhere close to HP's market cap today? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general Ok...so if you agree with me on Fiorina, why do you present your argument as though she has this grand accomplishment and the dem candidates do not. sounds like a lot of bluster from the candidates and from yourself. she decided to sacrifice quality while using the company's reputation to make short term money, and then the company went to heck.....not the person I'd want running my country. Do you have a source for that statement or is that your opinion? Because, I'm calling BS on that one. Honestly, the more you dislike a candidate more I warm up to them. |
| 2015-10-15 11:12 AM in reply to: Jackemy1 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Democratic debate |
| 2015-10-15 11:24 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by dmiller5 http://www.wsj.com/articles/fiorinas-h-p-tenure-a-disputed-legacy-1444179445
I can't read your link because I don't subscribe to the WSJ. But, It looks like an opinion piece which definitely is not a source to support your statement. |
| 2015-10-15 11:33 AM in reply to: Jackemy1 |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by Jackemy1 Originally posted by dmiller5 I can't read your link because I don't subscribe to the WSJ. But, It looks like an opinion piece which definitely is not a source to support your statement. . http://www.wsj.com/articles/fiorinas-h-p-tenure-a-disputed-legacy-1444179445
I can't read it but I'm sure its no good. got it. |
| 2015-10-15 11:41 AM in reply to: dmiller5 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by Jackemy1 Originally posted by dmiller5 I can't read your link because I don't subscribe to the WSJ. But, It looks like an opinion piece which definitely is not a source to support your statement. . http://www.wsj.com/articles/fiorinas-h-p-tenure-a-disputed-legacy-1444179445
I can't read it but I'm sure its no good. got it. Do you know anything about the size of her ankles? I'm not really willing to waste my time reading that if she has fat ankles too, since I couldn't vote for her anyway. |
| 2015-10-15 12:00 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by Jackemy1 Originally posted by dmiller5 I can't read your link because I don't subscribe to the WSJ. But, It looks like an opinion piece which definitely is not a source to support your statement. . http://www.wsj.com/articles/fiorinas-h-p-tenure-a-disputed-legacy-1444179445
I can't read it but I'm sure its no good. got it. Do you know anything about the size of her ankles? I'm not really willing to waste my time reading that if she has fat ankles too, since I couldn't vote for her anyway. Dude... |
| 2015-10-15 12:43 PM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by Left Brain Dude... Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by Jackemy1 Originally posted by dmiller5 I can't read your link because I don't subscribe to the WSJ. But, It looks like an opinion piece which definitely is not a source to support your statement. . http://www.wsj.com/articles/fiorinas-h-p-tenure-a-disputed-legacy-1444179445
I can't read it but I'm sure its no good. got it. Do you know anything about the size of her ankles? I'm not really willing to waste my time reading that if she has fat ankles too, since I couldn't vote for her anyway. I know, it's horrible and shallow....and I apologize. But I can't vote for Christie for the same reason. I think I was tramautized as a kid or something. |
| 2015-10-15 1:46 PM in reply to: Jackemy1 |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by Jackemy1 Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general Ok...so if you agree with me on Fiorina, why do you present your argument as though she has this grand accomplishment and the dem candidates do not. sounds like a lot of bluster from the candidates and from yourself. I think Fiorina gets a bit too much criticism from those that couldn't run a lemonade stand. I am not saying that her execution as CEO was perfect but she was the type of CEO that HP needed at the time to survive. She was a "change" type CEO. And people who are comfortable in their positions don't like change. At least she was bold and not afraid to act on her vision. I am just wondering how many of HP's competitors in the 90's are still around and have anywhere close to HP's market cap today? To me, the strongest indictment of Fiorina's competence as a CEO is that, once she left HP, she wasn't hired again by anyone else. (Which was brought up but, I think it was Trump or Paul in the GOP debate, lest you think I'm making it up.). At at time when Fortune 500 companies-- particularly tech companies, are DESPERATE to show the world they're not run entirely by men, I think if she'd been someone another company thought was remotely trustworthy, she would have gotten hired by someone else. |
| 2015-10-15 2:18 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Democratic debate Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by Jackemy1 To me, the strongest indictment of Fiorina's competence as a CEO is that, once she left HP, she wasn't hired again by anyone else. (Which was brought up but, I think it was Trump or Paul in the GOP debate, lest you think I'm making it up.). At at time when Fortune 500 companies-- particularly tech companies, are DESPERATE to show the world they're not run entirely by men, I think if she'd been someone another company thought was remotely trustworthy, she would have gotten hired by someone else. Originally posted by dmiller5 I think Fiorina gets a bit too much criticism from those that couldn't run a lemonade stand. I am not saying that her execution as CEO was perfect but she was the type of CEO that HP needed at the time to survive. She was a "change" type CEO. And people who are comfortable in their positions don't like change. At least she was bold and not afraid to act on her vision. I am just wondering how many of HP's competitors in the 90's are still around and have anywhere close to HP's market cap today? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by dmiller5 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood I'm not thrilled, but I'm not unhappy. It's the Hillary and Bernie show if and until Biden figures out what he's doing. I think Hillary is far from "severely damaged". Sanders has crept up, but he's still trailing by double digits in most of the polls I've seen. People are excited because her lead has shrunk by half, but it's still 40-something to 20-something in a lot of polls. On the contrary, I think Hillary has shaken off some of the email stuff and is starting to find her footing again. I sort of think Biden was waiting to see how she did in the debate and if it seemed like she was stumbling, he'd make the decision to come in. Most of what I've seen seems to think she did pretty well, so I'd be surprised if Joe jumps in, but who knows. I still don't think Trump will win the nomination and the worst thing that could happen to the GOP is trump running as an independent. And it's wishful thinking to compare the Democratic field to the GOP field that lost the last two elections. That's like comparing, I dunno, a donkey to an elephant. Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn That debate was no fun at all. Just experienced public servants talking like grownups about real issues in a civilized way. I like it much better when you have failed executives calling out reality-tv stars about comments one made about the others' face. That's how you choose a president. But you have to admit it is more fun. haha The funny part is that people like to relegate Tump to the name caller and reality-tv star, but that has nothing to do with his appeal. If anything they're huge negatives that he's having to overcome. People are just so sick and tired of "experienced public servants" taking advantage of the people that his negatives just don't matter. The Democratic party is going to see this first hand when they have to face Trump in this general election and it's not going to be pretty come election day. There's nothing but stale talking points and "more of the same" coming from a bunch of old white politicians on the Democratic side. They're doing exactly what the Republican party did the past 8 years with terrible results. You can't tell me you're happy with the candidates that were on the stage last night. Hillary is severely damaged, Berney is a socialist, O'Malley made a huge mess of Maryland. The other two obviously didn't even deserve to be on the stage. ¯\_(?)_/¯ I agree that Biden won't get in. He just doesn't have any infrastructure at all, so it would be a huge task to get something going this late. As for Hillary being severely damaged I'll clarify my thoughts on that. Most Presidential candidates come in flying high on some sort of success. Trump (business/TV success), Bush (Successful Florida Governor), Carson (Successful Surgeon), Fiornia (Successful business woman). On the other hand Hillary is coming off of a very bad experience as Secretary of state that had the unfortunate Benghazi incident and it's pretty obvious that she committed a Felony offense with the email scandal that is likely to bite her during the campaign. When asked what was her greatest accomplishment as secretary of state she can't even answer the question. This is not a good sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXHiKX2CtU In the eyes of the American people her numbers are at or near the lowest points ever: (not where you want to be going into a presidential race) Favorability rating dropped from 66% to 41% the last few years (http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) "Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, voters say 61 - 34 percent, her lowest score ever" (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274) I know that many Democrats like her because of her last name, but she's coming into the election damaged and is not playing well outside of the Democratic party. This is not a good sign for the Democratic ticket IMHO.
HAHAHA Fiorina successful businesswoman/. HAHAHA she drove the company directly into the toilet.
and carson often says things that make me question whether or not he finished high school Thanks for your valuable and well thought out reply. lol I actually agree with you on Fiorina, but that is the qualification she's running on (good or bad). Similarly Hillary is running on her background as a Senator and Secretary of State. At least with Fiorina she can articulates her accomplishments as CEO and tries to defend her failures, but for whatever reason Hillary just changes the subject every time anyone asks her about her SoS accomplishments. That's not going to play well in the general Ok...so if you agree with me on Fiorina, why do you present your argument as though she has this grand accomplishment and the dem candidates do not. sounds like a lot of bluster from the candidates and from yourself. +1, I was just telling this to a friend of mine a couple days ago. |
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