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Who invented target heart rate anyway?
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 2015-10-20 2:14 PM |
 319  Sarasota, Florida |  Subject: Who invented target heart rate anyway?I'm in my mid 30s and haven't really paid much attention to my HR but while getting over a respiratory infection I was surprised to see it go over 190. Of course it didn't feel good so I slowed down with a careful eye. What I noticed is my target heart rate feels painfully boring and slow. I remember in my 20's I could hold THR and it felt good but now in my mid 30s it feels far too gentle. I can even hold it with my mouth closed and just breathe in and out through my nose. It's not until I go >85% of MHR that it feels like I start getting somewhere. Anyone else notice this? Is spending most your time above THR really that risky? Where did this formula even come from? |
| 2015-10-20 2:29 PM in reply to: runtim23 |
Pro 6011  Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? Originally posted by runtim23 I'm in my mid 30s and haven't really paid much attention to my HR but while getting over a respiratory infection I was surprised to see it go over 190. Of course it didn't feel good so I slowed down with a careful eye. What I noticed is my target heart rate feels painfully boring and slow. I remember in my 20's I could hold THR and it felt good but now in my mid 30s it feels far too gentle. I can even hold it with my mouth closed and just breathe in and out through my nose. It's not until I go >85% of MHR that it feels like I start getting somewhere. Anyone else notice this? Is spending most your time above THR really that risky? Where did this formula even come from? What formula are you referring to? Anything that isn't based on some sort of testing has a pretty good chance of being less than optimum.
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| 2015-10-20 3:03 PM in reply to: 0 |
| 319 Sarasota, Florida | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? I've always used 220-age then 65-85% of that. Something similar is described at heart.org http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/PhysicalActivity/Fitne... I would think I'd be more efficient since my resting is usually 60-65 bpm but 155 bpm will only get me 6 mph with small hills. This is ridiculously slow compared to my 9-10 mph I used to do in my 20s at 170 bpm. Granted I am getting over sickness and fell off my schedule due to work and the cold but I believe the point is still valid. Edited by runtim23 2015-10-20 3:19 PM |
| 2015-10-20 3:29 PM in reply to: runtim23 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? Instead of using that, determine training zones by doing some field testing. Here's a good explanation of how to do it: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=25733&page=1# If you're new to endurance sports, I recommend first training for 1-2 months using RPE (rating of perceived exertion) while wearing your HR monitor to learn what your HR is at different RPE's and to establish enough fitness for the tests to provide useful data.
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| 2015-10-20 3:31 PM in reply to: runtim23 |
Pro 6582  Melbourne FL Gold member | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? Originally posted by runtim23 I've always used 220-age then 65-85% of that. Something similar is described at heart.org http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/PhysicalActivity/Fitne... I would think I'd be more efficient since my resting is usually 60-65 bpm but 155 bpm will only get me 6 mph with small hills. This is ridiculously slow compared to my 9-10 mph I used to do in my 20s at 170 bpm. Granted I am getting over sickness and fell off my schedule due to work and the cold but I believe the point is still valid. fuggedaboutit!Read this article. There's also a link there (Q&A) to a very large thread in regards to it. In the 10+ years of training my run & bike LTHR test results have barely moved, but using an age based formula I'm 10 bpm down from where I was 10 years ago for no reason. |
| 2015-10-20 4:24 PM in reply to: Donto |
| 319 Sarasota, Florida | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? I kept running into Zone 2 in training plans and seeing them mentioned on here but never knew what it all meant. Along with my slowing pace this site makes me feel old with my outdated education. Thanks for linking these. I will run these tests as soon as I clear this cough up. |
| 2015-10-20 5:03 PM in reply to: runtim23 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? Originally posted by runtim23 I'm in my mid 30s and haven't really paid much attention to my HR but while getting over a respiratory infection I was surprised to see it go over 190. Of course it didn't feel good so I slowed down with a careful eye. What I noticed is my target heart rate feels painfully boring and slow. I remember in my 20's I could hold THR and it felt good but now in my mid 30s it feels far too gentle. I can even hold it with my mouth closed and just breathe in and out through my nose. It's not until I go >85% of MHR that it feels like I start getting somewhere. Anyone else notice this? Is spending most your time above THR really that risky? Where did this formula even come from? a bit of history about the formula... http://steelcityendurance.com/testing/maximum-heart-ratedont-be-foo... |
| 2015-10-20 10:49 PM in reply to: AdventureBear |
| 319 Sarasota, Florida | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by runtim23 I'm in my mid 30s and haven't really paid much attention to my HR but while getting over a respiratory infection I was surprised to see it go over 190. Of course it didn't feel good so I slowed down with a careful eye. What I noticed is my target heart rate feels painfully boring and slow. I remember in my 20's I could hold THR and it felt good but now in my mid 30s it feels far too gentle. I can even hold it with my mouth closed and just breathe in and out through my nose. It's not until I go >85% of MHR that it feels like I start getting somewhere. Anyone else notice this? Is spending most your time above THR really that risky? Where did this formula even come from? a bit of history about the formula... http://steelcityendurance.com/testing/maximum-heart-ratedont-be-foo... Thank you. |
| 2015-11-11 9:33 PM in reply to: runtim23 |
| 319 Sarasota, Florida | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? I have a silly question regarding the LT. Do I want to increase my intensity if needed to feel like I've given it everything? or should I keep a steady intensity that leaves me feeling beat? I'm not sure how my hrm averages. It seems to include time into its calculation instead of just ranges hit, but dividing the range by 2 isn't much higher. I ran the tests but undershot my intensity. As a result I spent the last 2 minutes sprinting them out. Will this work? Possibly clarified in the instructions or buried in the 24 page FAQ but I didn't see it. Thanks. |
| 2015-11-12 11:04 PM in reply to: #5147894 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? You'll want to use it as a reference but repeat the test. As coach Bibby McGee says, " the first rule of testing is to throw out the first test" What you know is that your true 20 min max hr avg is prob higher than what you just tested. Calculate some zones and see how they feel but repeat the test in 3-4 days and oace it better. The effort should be a steady effort that is the max you could sustain for that duration |
| 2015-11-13 11:15 AM in reply to: AdventureBear |
| 319 Sarasota, Florida | Subject: RE: Who invented target heart rate anyway? |
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