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 2015-12-17 4:49 PM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro  9391     Omaha, NE |  Subject: RE: Ted CruzOriginally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by ejshowers Ahh Cruz, arguable the least-liked person in the Senate. From Politico: "Ted Cruz can’t even get a protest vote in the Senate anymore. On Monday night, Cruz’s colleagues ignored his attempt to disrupt Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s efforts to fund the government without attacking Planned Parenthood. In an unusual rebuke, even fellow Republicans denied him a “sufficient second” that would have allowed him a roll call vote. Then, his Republican colleagues loudly bellowed “no” when Cruz sought a voice vote, a second repudiation that showed how little support Cruz has: Just one other GOP senator — Utah’s Mike Lee — joined with Cruz as he was overruled by McConnell and his deputies. It was the second time that Cruz had been denied a procedural courtesy that’s routinely granted to senators in both parties. The first came after he called McConnell a liar this summer. ...." Originally posted by Hook'em If by strong machine you meant campaign organization, I will give you that as I have no knowledge of how Cruz's team compares to others. I took it to mean overall political machine, which would include the party establishment and obviously sitting congress people and governors that would publically support a candidate. You are right that endorsements are important and are a very strong predictor of presidential race success - and Cruz has like 12 versus Bush at 46, Trump at 0 and for some perspective, Hillary at 454 as of today. Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by Hook'em I would strongly disagree that he has a "strong machine" working for him. He has almost NO endorsements from congress-people or governors at this point and is known to be generally disliked in the Senate. Cruz is very smart and has a strong machine working to get him to the White House. A couple years ago, no one in Texas had heard of Ted Cruz. He was the solicitor general - an appointed position in the attorney general's office that doesn't get any attention. He decided to run for Kay Bailey Hutchinson's senate seat against a popular, well-known, and wealthy Lt. Governor, David Dewhurst. He finished second behind Dewhurst in the primiary election. In the run-off Cruz stomped Dewhurst by 57-43%, much to everyone's surprise (polling had Dewhurst winning all the way up to election day). I would not be surprised if Cruz ends up being the GOP nominee.
Compare the organization of Ted Cruz with that of the front runners, Donald Trump and Ben Carson, and you'll see he has a much deeper campaign organization (staff/volunteers in states much later in the primary season). The only candidates with similar organizations at this point are Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio. While endorsements by sitting politicos are important, the organization at the state and county level is what is needed to get out the vote. He didn't have any notable endorsements in his senate race and he easily upset the candidate that did. I disagree, I don't think you can argue that he's not the least-liked person in the Senate. lol |
| 2015-12-18 8:17 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz |
| 2015-12-18 8:32 AM in reply to: crowny2 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe |
| 2015-12-18 9:47 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails |
| 2015-12-18 11:28 AM in reply to: crowny2 |
Pro 6838  Tejas | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails Really? Still with the George Bush neener neener argument?  |
| 2015-12-18 11:51 AM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by mdg2003 Liberal logic. All things are permissible as long as you can find somebody else who did the same or worse.Originally posted by crowny2 Really? Still with the George Bush neener neener argument? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails |
| 2015-12-18 11:58 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by mdg2003 Liberal logic. All things are permissible as long as you can find somebody else who did the same or worse. Originally posted by crowny2 Really? Still with the George Bush neener neener argument? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails Why not. You continue to bring up Obama in things that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Just playing your game. |
| 2015-12-18 12:48 PM in reply to: crowny2 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by crowny2 I don't recall trying to justify bad Republican behavior based on Obama's bad behavior.Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by mdg2003 Liberal logic. All things are permissible as long as you can find somebody else who did the same or worse. Originally posted by crowny2 Really? Still with the George Bush neener neener argument? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails Why not. You continue to bring up Obama in things that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Just playing your game. |
| 2015-12-18 1:04 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Lucky for us, we don't need to wait for the administration to handle it. We have a congress who will dilingently work to get to the bottom of it. Even if it takes 32 hearings from 10 different committees, they will not rest. Oh wait, now they decided they're not going to investigate Cruz. |
| 2015-12-18 2:36 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I don't recall trying to justify bad Republican behavior based on Obama's bad behavior. Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by mdg2003 Liberal logic. All things are permissible as long as you can find somebody else who did the same or worse. Originally posted by crowny2 Really? Still with the George Bush neener neener argument? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails Why not. You continue to bring up Obama in things that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Just playing your game. And I don't recall Obama having anything to do with Ted Cruz potentially giving away house secrets but it didn't stop you, once again, bringing him into a discussion that had absolutely nothing to do with him. I believe it is called Obama Derangement Syndrome and you have got a bad case of it. |
| 2015-12-18 3:27 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by Bob Loblaw Lol you make a good point. Seriously is there any part of our government that's doing what it's supposed to?Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Lucky for us, we don't need to wait for the administration to handle it. We have a congress who will dilingently work to get to the bottom of it. Even if it takes 32 hearings from 10 different committees, they will not rest. Oh wait, now they decided they're not going to investigate Cruz. |
| 2015-12-18 3:30 PM in reply to: crowny2 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by crowny2 He is deranged alright. Obama controls the justice department. He has proven over and over again that they selectively investigate and charge based on politics. Who else would investigate and bring up charges? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I don't recall trying to justify bad Republican behavior based on Obama's bad behavior. Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by mdg2003 Liberal logic. All things are permissible as long as you can find somebody else who did the same or worse. Originally posted by crowny2 Really? Still with the George Bush neener neener argument? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails Why not. You continue to bring up Obama in things that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Just playing your game. And I don't recall Obama having anything to do with Ted Cruz potentially giving away house secrets but it didn't stop you, once again, bringing him into a discussion that had absolutely nothing to do with him. I believe it is called Obama Derangement Syndrome and you have got a bad case of it. |
| 2015-12-18 3:50 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I know you are, but what am I? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I don't recall trying to justify bad Republican behavior based on Obama's bad behavior. Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by mdg2003 Liberal logic. All things are permissible as long as you can find somebody else who did the same or worse. Originally posted by crowny2 Really? Still with the George Bush neener neener argument? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 I'll just leave this here.
When I was watching the debate I thought the same thing because of the way Rubio reacted to Cruz's statements. In the net I don't think it will make much difference unless there's a formal investigation. Then again, we already know that the administration isn't interested in investigating the mishandling of classified information. hehe Neither did the last one. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails Why not. You continue to bring up Obama in things that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Just playing your game. And I don't recall Obama having anything to do with Ted Cruz potentially giving away house secrets but it didn't stop you, once again, bringing him into a discussion that had absolutely nothing to do with him. I believe it is called Obama Derangement Syndrome and you have got a bad case of it. Fixed it for you. |
| 2015-12-18 6:06 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Uh oh, moderator editing. He's going to make us all sound silly... er. Edited by mdg2003 2015-12-18 6:06 PM |
| 2015-12-18 9:40 PM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz I had no idea jmk was a moderator.......we're all screwed. |
| 2015-12-18 10:34 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by Left Brain He's been doing it forever. I actually love Obama but he keeps changing my posts so they look like I don't.I had no idea jmk was a moderator.......we're all screwed. |
| 2015-12-18 10:48 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain He's been doing it forever. I actually love Obama but he keeps changing my posts so they look like I don't. I had no idea jmk was a moderator.......we're all screwed. bwaaaahahahahaha!!!!!!! He got you jmk. |
| 2015-12-19 9:31 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain He's been doing it forever. I actually love Obama but he keeps changing my posts so they look like I don't. I had no idea jmk was a moderator.......we're all screwed. bwaaaahahahahaha!!!!!!! He got you jmk.  It's not even true. I mostly just try to pare down all of Tony's obscenities. It's a full-time job, even for PCOJ. |
| 2015-12-19 11:42 AM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain He's been doing it forever. I actually love Obama but he keeps changing my posts so they look like I don't. I had no idea jmk was a moderator.......we're all screwed. bwaaaahahahahaha!!!!!!! He got you jmk. It's not even true. I mostly just try to pare down all of Tony's obscenities. It's a full-time job, even for PCOJ. In my defense, I was in the Navy for 6 years |
| 2016-01-14 10:28 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Ted Cruz, anti-establishment hypocrite in bed with Wall Street... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cruz-unreported-1-million-bank-044000... I didn't know his wife is a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs either. Beginning of the end for him? |
| 2016-01-14 10:35 AM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by ejshowers Ted Cruz, anti-establishment hypocrite in bed with Wall Street... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cruz-unreported-1-million-bank-044000... I didn't know his wife is a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs either. Beginning of the end for him?
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| 2016-01-14 10:46 AM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by ejshowers Ted Cruz, anti-establishment hypocrite in bed with Wall Street... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cruz-unreported-1-million-bank-044000... I didn't know his wife is a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs either. Beginning of the end for him? I read that this morning too and went... oops I think he was already on the slide for various reasons, but this is a big ole parachute. |
| 2016-01-27 12:49 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Has anyone been following the story about Ted Cruz' former freshman year roommate at Princeton? It's a little juvenile, but pretty funny. http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2016/01/15/ted-cruzs-college-roomm... Here's a highlight: “I would rather have anybody else be the president of the United States. Anyone. I would rather pick somebody from the phone book.” (Speaking of college roommates, is it common knowledge that Al Gore and Tommy Lee Jones were roommates at Harvard?) |
| 2016-01-27 1:13 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz I have heard a bit about the roommate thing very funny. I don't think Cruz has many friends (no surprise!) Never heard about Gore and Jones. Cool. |
| 2016-01-28 10:11 AM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ted Cruz Originally posted by ejshowers I have heard a bit about the roommate thing very funny. I don't think Cruz has many friends (no surprise!) Never heard about Gore and Jones. Cool. Ditto, I hadn't heard of either. It's funny to watch the various Trump haters who feel he could never work with anyone tend to feel Cruz is much worse. |
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