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2016-01-04 10:49 PM

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okay -- who's watched or watching? I'm only a few episodes in, but this thing is messed up



2016-01-05 4:00 PM
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I haven't watched it yet but I'm fascinated with the impact the show has had, spawning petitions to free the guy who was locked up for allegedly committing the murders.

2016-01-06 9:08 AM
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yeah my morning radio show been watching it and they do a doc show every once in awhile and they are going to do one on it soon. I started watching it last night and I was up to 1:30 am trying to finish a couple more episodes. I just can't stop watch. Also reminds me how I never want to be interrogated.
2016-01-06 9:13 AM
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I have been watching it.  The story took place very close to where I grew up.  I remember the local media coverage of it when I was younger.  Only a few episodes in myself.  Can't wait to finish it.

2016-01-06 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by melbo55

I haven't watched it yet but I'm fascinated with the impact the show has had, spawning petitions to free the guy who was locked up for allegedly committing the murders.

 

doesn't the allegedly tag go away once he is convicted?  I admit I have not seen the show, but everything I have heard says that it leaves out key evidence from the prosecution. I saw a news report talking about his sweat in the car, his blood in the car, her keys found in the house as examples.

2016-01-06 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by melbo55

I haven't watched it yet but I'm fascinated with the impact the show has had, spawning petitions to free the guy who was locked up for allegedly committing the murders.

 

doesn't the allegedly tag go away once he is convicted?  I admit I have not seen the show, but everything I have heard says that it leaves out key evidence from the prosecution. I saw a news report talking about his sweat in the car, his blood in the car, her keys found in the house as examples.

the whole thing is about a possible planting of evidence. Those keys were not found on the first 6 or 7 searches, but were suddenly out in the open. They have his DNA on them, but not hers? So many things are just out of sorts with this. To me, the saddest thing so far was the interrogation on the kid. He had no idea what was going on or the implications of what he was saying.



2016-01-06 3:40 PM
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I just saw my last episode how looks like someone used a syringe to get blood they had of his on file.

I was seeing the poor 16 year old boy who has learning disabilities who did not have an attorney or his mom yet he can sign a confession. Whole time telling his mom he is not even sure why he signed it.

The rape case he was in jail for 18 years was ridiculous. 23 witness stating his alibi but no one believed them. I know my friend had a troubled son. She ended up paying $3000 for a lawyer to defend him from stealing a Xbox from Walmart. She did it because she was with him at home while the crime was committed. Otherwise she would had him deal with it on his own.
2016-01-06 5:27 PM
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Finished it last night and dont want to ruin it for those still watching. It was well worth the binging! I will share some thoughts after more people have watched it (especially regarding the nephew).
2016-01-08 1:11 PM
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If you believe Steven Avery is innocent of the murder of Teresa Halbach I've got a bridge to sell that I'd like you to take a look at......tremendous economic opportunity for you.  LMAO

2016-01-08 1:47 PM
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If you believe Steven Avery is innocent of the murder of Teresa Halbach I've got a bridge to sell that I'd like you to take a look at......tremendous economic opportunity for you.  LMAO

 

but one sided documentaries are always true!

2016-01-11 12:33 PM
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Watched the whole thing over the past week. I have no idea what to believe but it was interesting to watch. Also interesting how much hype and talk there is around this series - I kind of felt out of the loop having not watched it for a few weeks. 



2016-01-11 12:42 PM
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Watched the whole thing over the past week. I have no idea what to believe but it was interesting to watch. Also interesting how much hype and talk there is around this series - I kind of felt out of the loop having not watched it for a few weeks. 

Start with this:

Steven Avery once burned a cat alive but claimed it caught on fire when he threw it "over a fire".  That should lead you down the right path.



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2016-01-11 2:20 PM
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2016-01-14 12:39 PM
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I know some of his statements are untrue and I think even are shown in the doc to be untrue.

I know his lawyer brings in doubt, disproves, or comes up with explanations for it.

Like bones were found in 3 locations and 1 was not on Avery property.

*67 calls are true but she was also running late. Good reason to disguise your number. Her fellow employees testified she had no problems with going out there.


2016-01-14 12:49 PM
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Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.

2016-01-14 2:38 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.




That interesting and scary. Well still does not mean he killed that one girl. Maybe he should be in jail maybe not for life. Then again he been in jail for 18 years.

Same time why did she do it twice? You would think/hope 1 time would be enough.


2016-01-14 2:43 PM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.

That interesting and scary. Well still does not mean he killed that one girl. Maybe he should be in jail maybe not for life. Then again he been in jail for 18 years. Same time why did she do it twice? You would think/hope 1 time would be enough.

huh??

2016-01-18 8:31 AM
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I stopped watching after three episodes.

2016-01-18 4:45 PM
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This is currently being discussed on Dr Phil (Monday, Jan 18)

2016-01-21 9:39 AM
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Originally posted by chirunner134
Originally posted by Left Brain

Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.

That interesting and scary. Well still does not mean he killed that one girl. Maybe he should be in jail maybe not for life. Then again he been in jail for 18 years. Same time why did she do it twice? You would think/hope 1 time would be enough.

huh??




I guess I do not understand the mentally of abused women. I always figure if I was Jodi after 1 consumption of rat poison that would be enough to get me to leave someone.

Of course this is all coming out now 9 years later and on Nancy Grace's show makes me wonder how accurate it is.

2016-01-21 9:59 AM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by chirunner134
Originally posted by Left Brain

Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.

That interesting and scary. Well still does not mean he killed that one girl. Maybe he should be in jail maybe not for life. Then again he been in jail for 18 years. Same time why did she do it twice? You would think/hope 1 time would be enough.

huh??

I guess I do not understand the mentally of abused women. I always figure if I was Jodi after 1 consumption of rat poison that would be enough to get me to leave someone. Of course this is all coming out now 9 years later and on Nancy Grace's show makes me wonder how accurate it is.

That's because you are going about it backwards.  You have to understand the mentality of the abuser first.



2016-01-21 11:05 AM
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This is currently being discussed on Dr Phil (Monday, Jan 18)




I saw it. It was interesting but nothing too new. but then again I been reading way too much about this.

I do have a Sarah Palin moment since I can see Steven new lawyer office from my office window. though not confirmed if she is in that tall building or just next to it.
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by chirunner134
Originally posted by Left Brain

Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.

That interesting and scary. Well still does not mean he killed that one girl. Maybe he should be in jail maybe not for life. Then again he been in jail for 18 years. Same time why did she do it twice? You would think/hope 1 time would be enough.

huh??




I guess I do not understand the mentally of abused women. I always figure if I was Jodi after 1 consumption of rat poison that would be enough to get me to leave someone.

Of course this is all coming out now 9 years later and on Nancy Grace's show makes me wonder how accurate it is.


Sometimes, abused women want to leave, but are afraid to. It also seems that many have grown up in abusive homes and so it's 'normal' to be abused for them. Very sad.

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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by chirunner134
Originally posted by Left Brain

Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.

That interesting and scary. Well still does not mean he killed that one girl. Maybe he should be in jail maybe not for life. Then again he been in jail for 18 years. Same time why did she do it twice? You would think/hope 1 time would be enough.

huh??

I guess I do not understand the mentally of abused women. I always figure if I was Jodi after 1 consumption of rat poison that would be enough to get me to leave someone. Of course this is all coming out now 9 years later and on Nancy Grace's show makes me wonder how accurate it is.
Sometimes, abused women want to leave, but are afraid to. It also seems that many have grown up in abusive homes and so it's 'normal' to be abused for them. Very sad.

You got it right  SGirl......A woman being abused is NEVER at fault.   In fact, nobody who is being abused is at fault.  The abuser is 100% to blame.



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2016-01-29 1:01 PM
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Originally posted by chirunner134
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Originally posted by chirunner134
Originally posted by Left Brain

Lori, Avery's then fiance, was on the radio last night.  She said she was coerced and forced by Steven Avery to make the show and portray him as she did.  She said, "Steven Avery is a monster, he beat me to a bloody pulp on numerous occasions, I ate rat poison twice to get away from him".

I've come to the conclusion that the entire show is a one-sided bunch of bullchit.

That interesting and scary. Well still does not mean he killed that one girl. Maybe he should be in jail maybe not for life. Then again he been in jail for 18 years. Same time why did she do it twice? You would think/hope 1 time would be enough.

huh??

I guess I do not understand the mentally of abused women. I always figure if I was Jodi after 1 consumption of rat poison that would be enough to get me to leave someone. Of course this is all coming out now 9 years later and on Nancy Grace's show makes me wonder how accurate it is.
Sometimes, abused women want to leave, but are afraid to. It also seems that many have grown up in abusive homes and so it's 'normal' to be abused for them. Very sad.

You got it right  SGirl......A woman being abused is NEVER at fault.   In fact, nobody who is being abused is at fault.  The abuser is 100% to blame.




The mentality of abused woman is complicated. It is not just a physical abuse, but also - mental abuse. They feel guilty, they feel they do not deserve much, and they should be thankful for the guy who abuse them, as he is still the best option for them. They do not realize they have options, and mainly because of their low self esteem.
Fear is a separate problem. Not having "a place to go" is another problem.
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